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Donatello19 02-12-2013 08:36 PM

What is your least favorite TMNT animated series?
 
Out of the three animated series so far (1987, 2003, and 2012) which one is your LEAST favorite?

Lethal Lullaby 02-12-2013 08:39 PM

But- :teek: I like 'em all. :tanime: This is so difficult! :toops:
Could we include the Japanese one? Even if there weren't much episodes.

Meh. I guess I'd have to say the Old Toon. I like it, but it's too silly.
imo :ohwell:

Shark_Blade 02-12-2013 08:44 PM

2003.

The art seems too expansive and empty. Reminds me of Kingdom Hearts game.

Drose18 02-12-2013 08:50 PM

2012 Im not loving the style of cg i like it but it could be better. It gets third but just barely because OT and 2003 were very individual and different and combining them is like holding back 2003 from being dark at all and not being as casual as OT.

CyberCubed 02-12-2013 09:03 PM

I'm not going to vote on the poll, all 3 have things I really like and some things I dislike about them.

Triceraton Jones 02-12-2013 09:51 PM

Fred Wolf series really doesn't stand the test of time very well, having said that its a massive part of my childhood. Fred Wolf series is my least likely to watch at the moment but that's only because I really enjoyed the 4Kids series and I'm watching the Nick series because its new. There are not enough episodes of the Nick series yet and its not been going long enough for me to make a decision.

CyberCubed 02-12-2013 09:54 PM

Most of the Fred Wolf series holds up very well when you accept the fact that its a comedy series based on self aware humor. It holds up well enough that people who rediscover it with the DVDs fall back in love with it.

Vivi 02-12-2013 10:14 PM

"Who is your favorite child?"

The old toon loses out, but only just. They're all good, and I regard the old toon as a classic.

Triceraton Jones 02-12-2013 10:17 PM

I understand what your saying its just for me when I was a kid the fred wolf series was the greatest thing ever. I honestly thought it was amazing. I still enjoy it but it just doesn't stand the test of time for me personally with the way I thought of it as a kid. But nothing could, It meant to much to me as a kid and nothing is going to feel quite like that as an adult.

Galactus 02-12-2013 11:25 PM

I suppose the current Nickleodeon show. I've liked most of the episodes and think it's on the "right" track and like the overall vibe however despite that Shredder fight in "The Gauntlet" it's yet to have an episode that really wows me.

That being said I don't think the 2K3 4Kids show had an episode that wowed me at this point in it's first season. On average the first Nick season has been better than the first 4Kids season though.

Comparisons to the 1987 series is probably unfair as there were only five episodes and all were top notch. If we include the second season as well then the comparison becomes a bit more fair.

Refractive Reflections 02-13-2013 12:24 AM

The 2003 series, I know it was darker but what was completely unnecessary were the mean-spirited jabs at the OT in the early episodes, creating a "too cool for school" tone against the OT. The 2003 series was already doing well without those jabs and didn't need to keep reinforcing "its coolness" through that.

I know there are some who will vehemently disagree with me that there were any "mean-spirited jabs", but when the 2003 series kept it up in the first season of episodes and then again in Turtles Forever, and well, when somebody keeps belaboring the point over and over again it was certainly implying something spiteful.

gobo 02-13-2013 12:37 AM

It's a tie. I love 2K3.

zkarlette 02-13-2013 12:54 AM

I really like all of them and for very different reasons, so I really can't say.

BubblyShell22 02-13-2013 09:11 AM

None of the above as all of them are good in their own way. I'd say Fast Forward and Back to the Sewers were the worst for me, but that's it.

Shark_Blade 02-13-2013 09:33 AM

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Originally Posted by JLS (Post 1057841)
The 2003 series, I know it was darker but what was completely unnecessary were the mean-spirited jabs at the OT in the early episodes, creating a "too cool for school" tone against the OT. The 2003 series was already doing well without those jabs and didn't need to keep reinforcing "its coolness" through that.

I know there are some who will vehemently disagree with me that there were any "mean-spirited jabs", but when the 2003 series kept it up in the first season of episodes and then again in Turtles Forever, and well, when somebody keeps belaboring the point over and over again it was certainly implying something spiteful.

Agree.

Little things I realized e.g. when Mike screamed "Cowabunga!", he got pounded and shouted by Raph, "No more Cowabunga".

And we don't need to talk about Turtles Forever. It treated the OT like dirt.

CyberCubed 02-13-2013 09:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JLS (Post 1057841)
The 2003 series, I know it was darker but what was completely unnecessary were the mean-spirited jabs at the OT in the early episodes, creating a "too cool for school" tone against the OT. The 2003 series was already doing well without those jabs and didn't need to keep reinforcing "its coolness" through that.

I know there are some who will vehemently disagree with me that there were any "mean-spirited jabs", but when the 2003 series kept it up in the first season of episodes and then again in Turtles Forever, and well, when somebody keeps belaboring the point over and over again it was certainly implying something spiteful.

They weren't mean spirited jabs. I have no clue why you think the 4kids writers had a vendetta against the OT. PL's own opinions aside the 4kids writers were not out to insult your childhood.

They even put in several references to it like April as a news reporter in Season 2 and Gen dressing up like Rocksteady.

The 4kids cartoon WAS a more serious take than the OT or Nick, but that's because they were trying to make it like the Bruce Timm or Greg Weisman superhero cartoons in terms of tone.

ToTheNines 02-13-2013 09:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JLS (Post 1057841)
The 2003 series, I know it was darker but what was completely unnecessary were the mean-spirited jabs at the OT in the early episodes, creating a "too cool for school" tone against the OT. The 2003 series was already doing well without those jabs and didn't need to keep reinforcing "its coolness" through that.

I know there are some who will vehemently disagree with me that there were any "mean-spirited jabs", but when the 2003 series kept it up in the first season of episodes and then again in Turtles Forever, and well, when somebody keeps belaboring the point over and over again it was certainly implying something spiteful.

I'll give you Turtles Forever, but I'm currently watching through season 1 of the 4kids show and you're way off base with that claim.

It did have an aversion to Fred Wolf characters, but only because this is the show Peter Laird would have liked to have seen outta the 87 series, but he didn't have that much creative input there.

TurtleTitan97 02-13-2013 10:10 AM

For me, it's the OT. While there were episodes that I really liked, the show was too goofy, in my opinion.

RaphAndDonnie 02-13-2013 10:17 AM

Out of the three here I have to say the 2k3 series. I mean, it's ok, but I don't like it as much as OT or the Nick toon.

Refractive Reflections 02-13-2013 11:05 AM

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Originally Posted by CyberCubed (Post 1057980)
They weren't mean spirited jabs. I have no clue why you think the 4kids writers had a vendetta against the OT. PL's own opinions aside the 4kids writers were not out to insult your childhood.

They even put in several references to it like April as a news reporter in Season 2 and Gen dressing up like Rocksteady.

The 4kids cartoon WAS a more serious take than the OT or Nick, but that's because they were trying to make it like the Bruce Timm or Greg Weisman superhero cartoons in terms of tone.

I wouldn't use the strong word "vendetta" for the 4Kids writers, for my opinion, but more like a strong distaste...as if the OT was "beneath them" and infantile.

For me at least, comparing the OT references with 2003 vs. 2012 there's an apparent difference in tone. At least with 2012, the OT references are casual but in 2003 if there's an OT reference it has a slight snide tone to it, as if its insinuating "Oh...that other embarrassing series of the TMNT..."

Jephael 02-13-2013 11:24 AM

I don't really care much for the 4Kids series as much anymore, though mainly because it's kind of a sad reminder of a lot of the crap I was going through in real life at the time it aired.

plastroncafe 02-13-2013 11:29 AM

Sorry OT, you just don't stand the test of time.

Jephael 02-13-2013 11:31 AM

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Originally Posted by plastroncafe (Post 1058001)
Sorry OT, you just don't stand the test of time.

Maybe not in your opinion, but I still love watching it!

Jester 02-13-2013 11:41 AM

I'mma probably have to say 4Kids myself. As I've said before I can watch more Fred Wolf episodes than 4Kids when I marathon...and the Nick series is a nice blend.

CyberCubed 02-13-2013 11:52 AM

The fillers of the 4kids were nothing special, but when the 4kids series was good...it was really good.

Gyt Kaliba 02-13-2013 12:41 PM

Nigh impossible for me to choose really, but...I guess I'll have to go with the 2003 version, if I were forced to choose something. It's the one I've seen the least of, so I have less personal attachment to it. I really want to see all of it eventually though, I think it'd appeal to me a lot more then.

The OT definitely has more issues than I remembered it having, even just going off of the one DVD I've got so far (just the first 5 episodes), but it's still hard for me to really decry it as being any 'weaker' or anything. And I'm absolutely loving the Nick series so far. The CG has grown on me enough to enjoy the show so far, the humor and action are both great, the voice acting possibly surpasses any show thus far - it's an all around win for me.

MrPliggins 02-13-2013 01:12 PM

I missed the word "least" and voted for my favorite. Ooops. Anyway, if I could re-vote, I'd say '87. Good for its time and I loved it as a kid, but rewatching it today, I can only get through an episode or two before I want to change it.

CyberCubed 02-13-2013 01:30 PM

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Originally Posted by MrPliggins (Post 1058043)
I missed the word "least" and voted for my favorite. Ooops. Anyway, if I could re-vote, I'd say '87. Good for its time and I loved it as a kid, but rewatching it today, I can only get through an episode or two before I want to change it.

Why is that? I think the OT has more marathon watch ability than the other due to episodic nature.

Jester 02-13-2013 01:43 PM

Again...and he doesn't.

Some think the Fred Wolf series has aged like fine wine...others milk. Some can more easily marathon the FW series, other the 4Kids series is more to their liking.

The question has been asked and answered, sir.

ZariusTwo 02-13-2013 03:20 PM

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Originally Posted by plastroncafe (Post 1058001)
Sorry Nick, but you just won't stand the test of time.

Fixed for ya.

4Kids is definatly forgotten about by most of the outside world now along with the 2007 movie. Even NM is better remembered, and that's based on it's infamous reputation alone. I wouldnt say it's my least favourite, as it has five steller seasons, but it definatly isnt top priority viewing at this stage in the game either.

OT still holds up, and it will always be the one the brunt of those interested in pop culture will remember anyway, whether you like it or not.

Quote:

Originally Posted by MrPliggins (Post 1058043)
I missed the word "least" and voted for my favorite. Ooops. Anyway, if I could re-vote, I'd say '87. Good for its time and I loved it as a kid, but rewatching it today, I can only get through an episode or two before I want to change it.

Meh, I know a lot of people who were like you once with certain shows from their childhoods. They all grew out of that phase and went back to enjoying them.

CyberCubed 02-13-2013 03:21 PM

I agree. I really like the Nick cartoon but its way too early to know if it'll remain good.

ZariusTwo 02-13-2013 03:28 PM

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Originally Posted by CyberCubed (Post 1058079)
I agree. I really like the Nick cartoon but its way too early to know if it'll remain good.

In my opinion, it's starting to turn sour already. I loved it at the start, but now it's just gotten gimmicky, repetitive and tiresome, at least the 4Kids show felt like something went on every week. The fanbase for it also get in real knots when you criticise it, almost to hysterically pathetic levels.

I hope things pick up soon, I wouldnt want this to be the first succesful TMNT show I've come to intensly dislike, that's never happened with me, but for now...there really isnt anything that makes it unique and different, it's taking a lot of it's cues from shows that came before, not just TMNT series, but shows like Teen Titans. Nothing in it is it's own identity.

CyberCubed 02-13-2013 03:36 PM

I do dislike the mutant of the week formula but there's enough other stuff going on in the episodes to make up for it. They do have to stop the Mike naming gag soon though.

Oculus Orbus 02-13-2013 03:46 PM

FW for me. I enjoyed it as a kid, but I think I was a lot more into the comics and the toys.

JoshDA7X 02-13-2013 03:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Triceraton Jones (Post 1057810)
I understand what your saying its just for me when I was a kid the fred wolf series was the greatest thing ever. I honestly thought it was amazing. I still enjoy it but it just doesn't stand the test of time for me personally with the way I thought of it as a kid. But nothing could, It meant to much to me as a kid and nothing is going to feel quite like that as an adult.

I could'nt agree more with this. Although the new series is kinda taking me back to being a kid haha! I was at college and Uni when the 4kids show was on so never really watched it religiously but I still enjoy it today.

plastroncafe 02-13-2013 03:57 PM

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Originally Posted by ZariusTwo (Post 1058078)
Fixed for ya.
OT still holds up, and it will always be the one the brunt of those interested in pop culture will remember anyway, whether you like it or not.

No, you really didn't fix that at all.
Nostalgia factor will only get one so far, and that distance is measured by the number of people who remember something fondly, and for the OT that number is dwindling.

Don't get me wrong, I have tons of fond memories of watching the OT, I just can't watch it now. Sure the voice acting is top notch, but the animation is terrible by today's standards, and then there are the stories...

Those are best left to memory.

Much like the movie "Spaceballs" the OT is better left fondly remembered than rewatched.

CyberCubed 02-13-2013 03:59 PM

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Originally Posted by plastroncafe (Post 1058087)
No, you really didn't fix that at all.
Nostalgia factor will only get one so far, and that distance is measured by the number of people who remember something fondly, and for the OT that number is dwindling.

Don't get me wrong, I have tons of fond memories of watching the OT, I just can't watch it now. Sure the voice acting is top notch, but the animation is terrible by today's standards, and then there are the stories...

Those are best left to memory.

Much like the movie "Spaceballs" the OT is better left fondly remembered than rewatched.

Why do you keep using the nostalgia excuse? Most people completely forgot the episodes of the OT until they watched the DVDs and enjoyed them. Faded childhood memories is not the reason people enjoy the show.

It is very well written as a self aware comedy series. I'm willing to bet all the people who say, "I can't watch it now" probably haven't watched a single episode of it in years so they can't accurately judge it.

gobo 02-13-2013 04:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Vivi (Post 1057808)
"Who is your favorite child?"

This comment weirds me out. :tcouch:

plastroncafe 02-13-2013 04:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CyberCubed (Post 1058088)
I'm willing to bet all the people who say, "I can't watch it now" probably haven't watched a single episode of it in years so they can't accurately judge it.

Really? Willing to bet? What, exactly, are you willing to bet?
Because this could get interesting.

CyberCubed 02-13-2013 04:25 PM

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Originally Posted by plastroncafe (Post 1058092)
Really? Willing to bet? What, exactly, are you willing to bet?
Because this could get interesting.

I'm just curious when the last time was you actually sat through the series? And I don't mean one random episode in a blue moon, I mean actually sat down to watch through it?


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