What is your least favorite TMNT animated series?

*Donatello19* · 02-12-2013, 08:36 PM

Out of the three animated series so far (1987, 2003, and 2012) which one is your LEAST favorite?

*Lethal Lullaby* · 02-12-2013, 08:39 PM

But-

I like 'em all.

This is so difficult!

Could we include the Japanese one? Even if there weren't much episodes.

Meh. I guess I'd have to say the Old Toon. I like it, but it's too silly.
imo

*Shark_Blade* · 02-12-2013, 08:44 PM

2003.

The art seems too expansive and empty. Reminds me of Kingdom Hearts game.

*Drose18* · 02-12-2013, 08:50 PM

2012 Im not loving the style of cg i like it but it could be better. It gets third but just barely because OT and 2003 were very individual and different and combining them is like holding back 2003 from being dark at all and not being as casual as OT.

*CyberCubed* · 02-12-2013, 09:03 PM

I'm not going to vote on the poll, all 3 have things I really like and some things I dislike about them.

Triceraton Jones · 02-12-2013, 09:51 PM

Fred Wolf series really doesn't stand the test of time very well, having said that its a massive part of my childhood. Fred Wolf series is my least likely to watch at the moment but that's only because I really enjoyed the 4Kids series and I'm watching the Nick series because its new. There are not enough episodes of the Nick series yet and its not been going long enough for me to make a decision.

*CyberCubed* · 02-12-2013, 09:54 PM

Most of the Fred Wolf series holds up very well when you accept the fact that its a comedy series based on self aware humor. It holds up well enough that people who rediscover it with the DVDs fall back in love with it.

Vivi · 02-12-2013, 10:14 PM

"Who is your favorite child?"

The old toon loses out, but only just. They're all good, and I regard the old toon as a classic.

Triceraton Jones · 02-12-2013, 10:17 PM

I understand what your saying its just for me when I was a kid the fred wolf series was the greatest thing ever. I honestly thought it was amazing. I still enjoy it but it just doesn't stand the test of time for me personally with the way I thought of it as a kid. But nothing could, It meant to much to me as a kid and nothing is going to feel quite like that as an adult.

*Galactus* · 02-12-2013, 11:25 PM

I suppose the current Nickleodeon show. I've liked most of the episodes and think it's on the "right" track and like the overall vibe however despite that Shredder fight in "The Gauntlet" it's yet to have an episode that really wows me.

That being said I don't think the 2K3 4Kids show had an episode that wowed me at this point in it's first season. On average the first Nick season has been better than the first 4Kids season though.

Comparisons to the 1987 series is probably unfair as there were only five episodes and all were top notch. If we include the second season as well then the comparison becomes a bit more fair.

*Refractive Reflections* · 02-13-2013, 12:24 AM

The 2003 series, I know it was darker but what was completely unnecessary were the mean-spirited jabs at the OT in the early episodes, creating a "too cool for school" tone against the OT. The 2003 series was already doing well without those jabs and didn't need to keep reinforcing "its coolness" through that.

I know there are some who will vehemently disagree with me that there were any "mean-spirited jabs", but when the 2003 series kept it up in the first season of episodes and then again in Turtles Forever, and well, when somebody keeps belaboring the point over and over again it was certainly implying something spiteful.

*gobo* · 02-13-2013, 12:37 AM

It's a tie. I love 2K3.

*zkarlette* · 02-13-2013, 12:54 AM

I really like all of them and for very different reasons, so I really can't say.

*BubblyShell22* · 02-13-2013, 09:11 AM

None of the above as all of them are good in their own way. I'd say Fast Forward and Back to the Sewers were the worst for me, but that's it.

*Shark_Blade* · 02-13-2013, 09:33 AM

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Originally Posted by JLS

The 2003 series, I know it was darker but what was completely unnecessary were the mean-spirited jabs at the OT in the early episodes, creating a "too cool for school" tone against the OT. The 2003 series was already doing well without those jabs and didn't need to keep reinforcing "its coolness" through that.

I know there are some who will vehemently disagree with me that there were any "mean-spirited jabs", but when the 2003 series kept it up in the first season of episodes and then again in Turtles Forever, and well, when somebody keeps belaboring the point over and over again it was certainly implying something spiteful.

Agree.

Little things I realized e.g. when Mike screamed "Cowabunga!", he got pounded and shouted by Raph, "No more Cowabunga".

And we don't need to talk about Turtles Forever. It treated the OT like dirt.

*CyberCubed* · 02-13-2013, 09:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JLS

The 2003 series, I know it was darker but what was completely unnecessary were the mean-spirited jabs at the OT in the early episodes, creating a "too cool for school" tone against the OT. The 2003 series was already doing well without those jabs and didn't need to keep reinforcing "its coolness" through that.

I know there are some who will vehemently disagree with me that there were any "mean-spirited jabs", but when the 2003 series kept it up in the first season of episodes and then again in Turtles Forever, and well, when somebody keeps belaboring the point over and over again it was certainly implying something spiteful.

They weren't mean spirited jabs. I have no clue why you think the 4kids writers had a vendetta against the OT. PL's own opinions aside the 4kids writers were not out to insult your childhood.

They even put in several references to it like April as a news reporter in Season 2 and Gen dressing up like Rocksteady.

The 4kids cartoon WAS a more serious take than the OT or Nick, but that's because they were trying to make it like the Bruce Timm or Greg Weisman superhero cartoons in terms of tone.

*ToTheNines* · 02-13-2013, 09:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JLS

The 2003 series, I know it was darker but what was completely unnecessary were the mean-spirited jabs at the OT in the early episodes, creating a "too cool for school" tone against the OT. The 2003 series was already doing well without those jabs and didn't need to keep reinforcing "its coolness" through that.

I know there are some who will vehemently disagree with me that there were any "mean-spirited jabs", but when the 2003 series kept it up in the first season of episodes and then again in Turtles Forever, and well, when somebody keeps belaboring the point over and over again it was certainly implying something spiteful.

I'll give you Turtles Forever, but I'm currently watching through season 1 of the 4kids show and you're way off base with that claim.

It did have an aversion to Fred Wolf characters, but only because this is the show Peter Laird would have liked to have seen outta the 87 series, but he didn't have that much creative input there.

*TurtleTitan97* · 02-13-2013, 10:10 AM

For me, it's the OT. While there were episodes that I really liked, the show was too goofy, in my opinion.

RaphAndDonnie · 02-13-2013, 10:17 AM

Out of the three here I have to say the 2k3 series. I mean, it's ok, but I don't like it as much as OT or the Nick toon.

*Refractive Reflections* · 02-13-2013, 11:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CyberCubed

They weren't mean spirited jabs. I have no clue why you think the 4kids writers had a vendetta against the OT. PL's own opinions aside the 4kids writers were not out to insult your childhood.

They even put in several references to it like April as a news reporter in Season 2 and Gen dressing up like Rocksteady.

The 4kids cartoon WAS a more serious take than the OT or Nick, but that's because they were trying to make it like the Bruce Timm or Greg Weisman superhero cartoons in terms of tone.

I wouldn't use the strong word "vendetta" for the 4Kids writers, for my opinion, but more like a strong distaste...as if the OT was "beneath them" and infantile.

For me at least, comparing the OT references with 2003 vs. 2012 there's an apparent difference in tone. At least with 2012, the OT references are casual but in 2003 if there's an OT reference it has a slight snide tone to it, as if its insinuating "Oh...that other embarrassing series of the TMNT..."

View Poll Results: What is your least favorite TMNT animated series?
1987 Fred Wolf Series	31	33.70%
2003 4Kids Series	42	45.65%
2012 Nickelodeon Series	19	20.65%
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02-12-2013, 08:36 PM	#1
Donatello19 Merchandise Maniac Join Date: Jun 2012 Location: New York Posts: 5,919	What is your least favorite TMNT animated series? Out of the three animated series so far (1987, 2003, and 2012) which one is your LEAST favorite?

02-13-2013, 12:24 AM	#11
Refractive Reflections Mad Scientist $Refractive Reflections's Avatar$ Join Date: Nov 2012 Posts: 2,371	The 2003 series, I know it was darker but what was completely unnecessary were the mean-spirited jabs at the OT in the early episodes, creating a "too cool for school" tone against the OT. The 2003 series was already doing well without those jabs and didn't need to keep reinforcing "its coolness" through that. I know there are some who will vehemently disagree with me that there were any "mean-spirited jabs", but when the 2003 series kept it up in the first season of episodes and then again in Turtles Forever, and well, when somebody keeps belaboring the point over and over again it was certainly implying something spiteful.
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02-13-2013, 12:37 AM	#12
gobo Wacky Action Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: on Earth Posts: 12,784	It's a tie. I love 2K3. __________________ Live and let live... or go to hell.

02-13-2013, 12:54 AM	#13
zkarlette Fashionably late Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: CA Posts: 4,146	I really like all of them and for very different reasons, so I really can't say. __________________ "If only we'd stop trying to be happy, we could have a pretty good time" E.W

02-12-2013, 08:39 PM	#2
Lethal Lullaby Foot Elite Join Date: Jan 2012 Posts: 4,816	But- I like 'em all. This is so difficult! Could we include the Japanese one? Even if there weren't much episodes. Meh. I guess I'd have to say the Old Toon. I like it, but it's too silly. imo

02-12-2013, 08:44 PM	#3
Shark_Blade Emperor Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 7,909	2003. The art seems too expansive and empty. Reminds me of Kingdom Hearts game.

02-12-2013, 08:50 PM	#4
Drose18 The Catalina Wine Mixer Join Date: Jan 2012 Posts: 1,865	2012 Im not loving the style of cg i like it but it could be better. It gets third but just barely because OT and 2003 were very individual and different and combining them is like holding back 2003 from being dark at all and not being as casual as OT.

02-12-2013, 09:03 PM	#5
CyberCubed Overlord Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 43,872	I'm not going to vote on the poll, all 3 have things I really like and some things I dislike about them.

02-12-2013, 09:51 PM	#6
Triceraton Jones Random Punk Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Portsmouth U.K Posts: 41	Fred Wolf series really doesn't stand the test of time very well, having said that its a massive part of my childhood. Fred Wolf series is my least likely to watch at the moment but that's only because I really enjoyed the 4Kids series and I'm watching the Nick series because its new. There are not enough episodes of the Nick series yet and its not been going long enough for me to make a decision.

02-12-2013, 09:54 PM	#7
CyberCubed Overlord Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 43,872	Most of the Fred Wolf series holds up very well when you accept the fact that its a comedy series based on self aware humor. It holds up well enough that people who rediscover it with the DVDs fall back in love with it.

02-12-2013, 10:14 PM	#8
Vivi Mad Scientist Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Ninja HQ, Moon Posts: 1,076	"Who is your favorite child?" The old toon loses out, but only just. They're all good, and I regard the old toon as a classic.

02-12-2013, 10:17 PM	#9
Triceraton Jones Random Punk Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Portsmouth U.K Posts: 41	I understand what your saying its just for me when I was a kid the fred wolf series was the greatest thing ever. I honestly thought it was amazing. I still enjoy it but it just doesn't stand the test of time for me personally with the way I thought of it as a kid. But nothing could, It meant to much to me as a kid and nothing is going to feel quite like that as an adult.

02-12-2013, 11:25 PM	#10
Galactus Foot Elite Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 3,009	I suppose the current Nickleodeon show. I've liked most of the episodes and think it's on the "right" track and like the overall vibe however despite that Shredder fight in "The Gauntlet" it's yet to have an episode that really wows me. That being said I don't think the 2K3 4Kids show had an episode that wowed me at this point in it's first season. On average the first Nick season has been better than the first 4Kids season though. Comparisons to the 1987 series is probably unfair as there were only five episodes and all were top notch. If we include the second season as well then the comparison becomes a bit more fair.

02-13-2013, 09:11 AM	#14
BubblyShell22 Leo-holic Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Indiana Posts: 16,912	None of the above as all of them are good in their own way. I'd say Fast Forward and Back to the Sewers were the worst for me, but that's it. __________________ "A warrior who never fails, never learns."-The Ancient One. "Embrace your inner a**holiness."-Mr. Anderson.

02-13-2013, 10:10 AM	#18
TurtleTitan97 Space Cowboy Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: Speed Force Posts: 7,043	For me, it's the OT. While there were episodes that I really liked, the show was too goofy, in my opinion. __________________