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Peanut 06-23-2003 09:43 PM

HP OotP Discussion! !*!SPOILERS!*!
 
Let's discuss! Great book. I'm kinda sad I'm already finished with it. I wasn't predicting the death of Sirius. Although I would have liked him to die in another fashion. (disappearing through some weird door?) Anyone else kinda mad that we probably have to wait another 3 years for the next book?

Loolaa 06-24-2003 12:40 AM

:D Cool! Hp discussion!
I didn't mind the way Sirius died, I think he died as he'd like to go... full of heroics, fighting recklessly for his Godson! Of course what with him being my favourite character and all I just wish he hadn't died at alll!
Plus that curtain thing makes me hope he'll maybe come back... perhaps as a ghost. Or is that just wishful thinking?
Did seem a bit sudden, though. I was expecting it to be Sirius, too, even with all the red herrings and me suddenly thinking it might be someone else, my mind kept going back to Sirius. I've noticed my favourites usually die or vanish in most books/films. Must be Murphy's law.

We mightn't have to wait three years. Hopefully. From what JKRowling has been saying the next book should be shorter, it could be a short wait, like the wait between the other four books. I suppose it depends on how she feels.

I loved Neville in this book, we learnt so much about him and he learn't alot too. He's braver than he realised.

ironhelix 06-24-2003 12:45 AM

Re: HP OotP Discussion! !*!SPOILERS!*!
 
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Originally Posted by Michaelangelo
Let's discuss! Great book. I'm kinda sad I'm already finished with it. I wasn't predicting the death of Sirius. Although I would have liked him to die in another fashion. (disappearing through some weird door?) Anyone else kinda mad they we probably have to wait another 3 years for the next book?

Waiting so long between books is precisely the reason why I have decided to not read any Harry Potter books until all 7 are done. I will only watch the movies as they are released. I would actually probably start reading one Book 6's release date is announced, since it takes me forever to finish a book, that way by the time number 7 comes out I'll be done.

Did Miss Rowling actually say that there will DEFINITELY be no more Harry books? I certainly think that it would be feasible to continue his adventures outside of school well into his adulthood. I mean, there certainly has to be more stuff to do than just go to school. What's he gonna do after he graduates?

Peanut 06-24-2003 08:50 AM

Where all the death things were going I wasn't really expecting Sirius. We all knew there would be a death to one of the main characters. She stuck in little hints of death all over the place. I too enjoyed Neville in this book. He seems to be coming around as one of the more important faces in the book. ironhelix I don't think she'll continue the series after book 7. I'd like her to but I don't think she will. Perhaps she'll had the reins to someone else and let them talk about Harry's life after school. They seem to be hinting to this dark wizard catcher thing, which in this book it was stated he'd need top OWLs in potions to get, of course we all know Harry didn't pull out an O in the potions exam. It'll be interesting to see what happens once all 7 books are finished though.

Mars-Chan 06-24-2003 11:27 AM

GRRR!!! SHHH!!! Don't tell me how it goes!!! I want it all to be a suprise when it comes out on DVD!!!!!!!

HorseTechie 06-24-2003 12:07 PM

Re: HP OotP Discussion! !*!SPOILERS!*!
 
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Originally Posted by ironhelix
Waiting so long between books is precisely the reason why I have decided to not read any Harry Potter books until all 7 are done. I will only watch the movies as they are released. I would actually probably start reading one Book 6's release date is announced, since it takes me forever to finish a book, that way by the time number 7 comes out I'll be done.

Yeah.... also my reason. :D My brother is into these books as well, so I'll just borrow them from him when I find the time. Hopefully. when I do get around to the fifth book, I should have forgotten about all these spoilers I can't seem to not avoid. :goofygri: Fortunatley, Ron is presently my fav char. Underdogs rule!

But... what is it with all these great and memorable characters dying lately? (At least Sirus went down fighting!)

ironhelix 06-24-2003 03:25 PM

Re: HP OotP Discussion! !*!SPOILERS!*!
 
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Originally Posted by HorseTechie
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Originally Posted by ironhelix
Waiting so long between books is precisely the reason why I have decided to not read any Harry Potter books until all 7 are done. I will only watch the movies as they are released. I would actually probably start reading one Book 6's release date is announced, since it takes me forever to finish a book, that way by the time number 7 comes out I'll be done.

Yeah.... also my reason. :D My brother is into these books as well, so I'll just borrow them from him when I find the time. Hopefully. when I do get around to the fifth book, I should have forgotten about all these spoilers I can't seem to not avoid. :goofygri: Fortunatley, Ron is presently my fav char. Underdogs rule!

But... what is it with all these great and memorable characters dying lately? (At least Sirus went down fighting!)

My fav character is Hermione...

Brodie 06-24-2003 03:34 PM

Shh! I want it to be a surprise for when I never see it!

Peanut 06-24-2003 03:57 PM

Why wouldn't you ever see it?

Leo33 06-26-2003 10:20 AM

I havn't read the 5th book yet. Seince the books take so long to come out, I find myself not wanting to read the next book as much as the last.

trisha 07-01-2003 09:41 PM

I was a good book, my favorite one so far. I cant wait for the next one. Has JKROWLING hinted about a time when she thinks itll be done???? Too bad sirius died. He was a favorite of mine.

Peanut 07-01-2003 09:51 PM

I haven't heard anything about the next book. I'm pretty sure we'll be seeing Sirius back in way form or another. I mean...he fell through a doorway. They never even explained it clearly. My hopes are that he'll be back at some point in time. Of course JK said she was going to kill of a character and that makes me think he's gone for good.

Mr. Snackpants 07-01-2003 10:05 PM

Was it a doorway???? I thought he went through a curtian or something. I also liked the new book and it was my favorite of all the books. I bet well see Sirius sooner or later. My guess is he will show up in the last book when Harry is fighting You-Know-Who or something and talk to him, kinda like Obi-Wan to Luke "Use the force, Luke." as a voice he hears in his head. Know what I mean??? I dunno, thats my guess. Anyways, I can't wait for the next book to come out, but unfortunatley I think ill be waiting for a while....

Peanut 07-01-2003 10:06 PM

Yeah it was some kind of arch. With a blowing curtain.

Mikey the Party Turtle 07-01-2003 10:50 PM

Personally, I didn't find Sirius' death that emotional. Dunno, just falling through an archway and dieing doesn't seem very effective to me. :| I felt sorry for Harry though, Sirius was the closet thing he had to a relative. Though the whole Second War sounds very promising. Maybe there will be an all-out war with Dumbledore heading one army, and Voldemort leading the other. Hopefully, the Godric Gryffindor sword will be used again. (I hated how it looked like a toothpick in the CoS movie!)

The character I was really expecting to get killed off was either Hermione or Ron. That would've been a big shock, since they are both major characters (I found Siruis to be more of a side character really.....) and that would've fueled Harry's hatred for ol' Tom Riddle WAY more than Siruis' death. :|
(Do I sense that Harry when is talking to Luna that there is something going to happen between them...? :lol: I bet Ginny + Harry fans are dissapointed with her sudden change of heart. :evilgrin: )

All in all, it was a very good book. It ties with Prisoner of Azkaban for the best book so far in the series.

Peanut 07-01-2003 11:32 PM

I was thinking it was gonna be Hagrid who kicked off. Especially with all the beatings he seemed to be taking, and then the whole part where he was chased off by Umbridge. I was pretty sure he was going to die there. Anyone else get a really, REALLY, strong disliking for Umbridge. I mean...I hate Snape and the Malfoy's and all but I really hated Umbridge. It didn't take her long to make my bad list either. It took Snape until about the third book for my real hate for him to come up...Malfoy's the second. Also anyone else not like the LeStrange's (sp?) at all?

Mikey the Party Turtle 07-02-2003 12:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Michaelangelo
I was thinking it was gonna be Hagrid who kicked off. Especially with all the beatings he seemed to be taking, and then the whole part where he was chased off by Umbridge. I was pretty sure he was going to die there. Anyone else get a really, REALLY, strong disliking for Umbridge. I mean...I hate Snape and the Malfoy's and all but I really hated Umbridge. It didn't take her long to make my bad list either. It took Snape until about the third book for my real hate for him to come up...Malfoy's the second. Also anyone else not like the LeStrange's (sp?) at all?

JK wrote that character so well. I hated her! :lol:

Barkworm 07-02-2003 01:18 PM

I have just finished the book and I think I got how Sirius died. Do you guys remember when Harry and his friends first saw the veil? Only Harry and Luna heard that whispering (Neville should have heard it, too), and I think it was the whispering of their beloved ones (Luna even later says something like: "You heard them, too, didn't you?") It is highly likely that that arch was a kind of entrance to the world of the dead. Makes sense doesn't it? When Sirius was stunned by Bellatrix he accidentally fell through the portal and was, of course immediately dead! That's why Lupin gave him up at once. What do you think about my theory?
Anyway, I can't way for the next book, even if this one was kinda disappointing (Sirius's death was just so... unworthy).

Peanut 07-02-2003 10:27 PM

Yeah that is a really good theory. Makes perfect sense. I thought the death of Sirius was rather unworthy as well. He just kinda...fell...and that's it...I would have rather seen him killed by Voldemort's AK curse, of course he'd be taking the curse after jumping in front of Harry, there by saving his life. I guess that would have been too predictable though.

Barkworm 07-02-2003 11:56 PM

I wished he could have spoken some last words to Harry, but then again the part when Harry tried to talk to the mirror and when he talked to Nick if Sirius could come back wouldn't have been so sad. I also wished Rowling had killed off someone else, I really digged Sirius. He was that kind of Raphael-character who seems to be tough but is very warmhearted.

Loolaa 07-03-2003 12:31 AM

When Harry saw the dream in which Sirius was captured and he spoke to Kreacher in the fire I was shouting at the book...' the parcel! See what's in the parcel'
Sure enough it was that mirror, I think Harry's going to be torturing himself in the next book when he realises he could have checked that to make sure Sirius was safe.

Raven 07-03-2003 09:05 AM

ya when harrys being tortured it will be me thats torturing him!!!!!!!!

and I'll laugh while im doing it!

Loolaa 07-03-2003 10:29 AM

*LMAO*

Uhhhh... :tanime: ... I mean... uh.... "You big meanie!"

*kicks Major Pain in the shin*

cqb101 07-03-2003 10:52 AM

Great book. My second favorite in the series, beatin only by the 3rd one. I really hated it when Sirius died, he was my favorite character. :goofygri: I really thought one of the weasly's was gonna die because, when Mrs. Weasly tried to get rid of the boggart, and it turned into them, I thought that was damn good foreshadowing, but I was wrong.

Raven 07-03-2003 12:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Loolaa
*LMAO*

Uhhhh... :tanime: ... I mean... uh.... "You big meanie!"

*kicks Major Pain in the shin*

ah my shin ah ow ow!!!!!!!!!


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