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marcelangelo 10-21-2013 08:26 AM

the ot tmnt on blu ray in europe
 
hey guys, haven't seen this discussed anywhere on the drome yet, so I thought Id share it with you....I hope this will be released in the us and uk and elsewhere on the globe, too...as of yet I have NO information on this product other than posted...but its surely nice to see the eps going on blu ray...amazon has listed 3 releases so far going till ep


blu ray release 1 (release date:13 jan 2014) contains eps 1-56

http://www.amazon.de/Teenage-Mutant-...urtles+blu+ray

blu ray release 2 (release date:10 feb 2014) contains eps 57-113

http://www.amazon.de/Teenage-Mutant-...urtles+blu+ray

blu ray release 3 (release date:17 march 2014) contains eps 114-169

http://www.amazon.de/Teenage-Mutant-...urtles+blu+ray

I cant find any word on specials or anything else unfortunatelly....it may be noted that cover art work is just a place holder(these were the covers to the wonderful ksm dvd box set releases)....I also know that the turtles show has had 194 episodes in total but there is no word on any further release at the moment from what I can see...
hope you like it.me?I have bought the ksm releases on dvd and dont know if I would buy this.if it contains any real specials this time I would I think.the prices are quite nice...

Redeemer 10-21-2013 08:53 AM

Should have figured Lions Gate would find a way to suck of last bit profit out of the OT series :lol:

I should have guessed Blue-Ray would be next, but it will be a nice option for others

raph27 10-21-2013 09:31 AM

Well, if the US price is also $32 a piece, $98 is much cheaper than the Party Wagon set that now goes for over $400. Plus it's Blu-Ray.

dkram230 10-21-2013 11:06 AM

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Originally Posted by RaphaeltheAwesome13 (Post 1169999)
Well, if the US price is also $32 a piece, $98 is much cheaper than the Party Wagon set that now goes for over $400. Plus it's Blu-Ray.

Dang! And I just completed the DVD collection! Now I gotta re-buy all over again and then I'll have 3 copies of the series LOL! Granted, I'll never actually open the Party Wagon set. I see an eBay poting in the future for my individual DVD releases. It'll be nice to have on Blu-Ray (assuming US gets it) but I would rather see the 2K3 series or even the Nick series get this. I doubt they are going to digitally restore, so what we will get will be the DVD releases slapped on a Blu Ray and upscaled to 1080P. Only those with larger screens will notice any difference in playback quality.

MrPliggins 10-21-2013 11:35 AM

I believe the entirety of '87 and the majority of 2k3 sans Turtles Forever were produced in standard definition. A hi-def release seems kind of pointless unless digitally remastered.

cammy85 10-21-2013 03:04 PM

Yeah, I don't know about a Bluray release. I bet it will look like crap.

$400, really????

Dawnatello Turtle Chick 10-21-2013 03:17 PM

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Originally Posted by cammy85 (Post 1170108)
$400, really????

Sadly, yes. If you want to try to get the Party Wagon set now, they are going for about that... I think I saw one for ONLY $350, but it's still highway robbery. Such a shame, I really want one!

Jester 10-21-2013 03:55 PM

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Originally Posted by MrPliggins (Post 1170028)
I believe the entirety of '87 w(as) produced in standard definition. A hi-def release seems kind of pointless unless digitally remastered.

This. I'd double dip only if it was worth while. And I really doubt this qualifies.

Ryanator008 10-21-2013 04:08 PM

Oh. My. God. Why can't all TV shows get this kind of release?! I haven't bought the OT on DVD, so it would be a crime for me not to get this!

FlogginMcMurryZombiePizza 10-21-2013 04:11 PM

I can only hope that this means we'll finally get a BluRay release also...

pannoni1 10-21-2013 04:17 PM

Well if the series wouldn't be complete, at least it stops at the most logical point (the last episode before Red Sky). That said, its a nice space saver compared to the DVDs, and extras could always be filmed via Blu-Ray shall Lionsgate ever have a chance to interview the people behind the OT (Susan Blu would be appropriate lol) shall it get a North American release. If there's no Region 1 release, I'll pursue these Blu-Rays!

Kendamu 10-21-2013 08:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MrPliggins (Post 1170028)
I believe the entirety of '87 and the majority of 2k3 sans Turtles Forever were produced in standard definition. A hi-def release seems kind of pointless unless digitally remastered.

That honestly depends on what sort of source is being used. If they just have some standard definition digital masters or tapes, then this would be an upscale at best. However, if the source footage they have is actual 16mm film (like FUNimation's masters of Dragon Ball Z), then it actually can be scanned in actual 1080p HD for a Blu-ray release.

Would it benefit from being in HD without some sort of remastering, though? :tconfuse:

CyberCubed 10-21-2013 09:09 PM

Like with most foreign releases, I'm going to pretend this doesn't exist unless it comes out in the U.S. Anything that doesn't get released in the U.S. always feels bootleg to me, I don't know why.

I doubt I'd buy a US one anyway, they're not remastering anything.

sdp 10-21-2013 09:31 PM

I'd buy it just to have the whole series in 3 discs. With a new movie I can see Lionsgate wanting to release them again and maybe in BR would be a good way to do it. So, I actually forgot what was missing from the DVDs, we did get all episodes eventually right? Or was there a missing episode never released? I forgot.

I think with this release they'd finally be able to get all the episodes out without a problem...If we could ask for some OT accurate art it'd be amazing, was it a legal thing? because the first set did have OT accurate art. My only other wishlist would be to have the turtle tips but I think that's pretty much a not going to happen unless a company like Shout! Factory got the rights.

sgtfbomb 10-21-2013 09:45 PM

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Originally Posted by dkram230 (Post 1170014)
....but I would rather see the 2K3 series get this.

I would love to see that show up on Blu Ray. I've been wanting to go through that series but the DVD releases are all over the place, and I believe many of those volumes are going for quite a bit, particularly for volume releases with only a few episodes.

Casey 10-21-2013 10:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sdp (Post 1170266)
...If we could ask for some OT accurate art it'd be amazing, was it a legal thing? because the first set did have OT accurate art. My only other wishlist would be to have the turtle tips but I think that's pretty much a not going to happen unless a company like Shout! Factory got the rights.

Couldn't agree more. That art pissed me off and it would be so cool if they got turtle tips!

marcelangelo 10-22-2013 04:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CyberCubed (Post 1170257)
Like with most foreign releases, I'm going to pretend this doesn't exist unless it comes out in the U.S. Anything that doesn't get released in the U.S. always feels bootleg to me, I don't know why.

I doubt I'd buy a US one anyway, they're not remastering anything.

well thats your oppinion and your policy..but let me remind you again of the nice ksm dvd box sets that came out over here first and for the first time EVER collected real amounts of episodes from the ot (not fifteen hundered single disk releases as before) uncut and in good quality...these were german, thusly 'foreign', releases...so lets wait and see....

HeroTurtlesFan 10-22-2013 05:47 AM

Unless this is actually remastered (and the show was made in SD so would be difficult) I can't see much point. Space-saving maybe, but quality-wise...? Nah.

Shark_Blade 10-22-2013 06:22 AM

Instant buy for me if it's remastered. :cool:

raph27 10-22-2013 06:35 AM

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Originally Posted by pannoni1 (Post 1170130)
Well if the series wouldn't be complete, at least it stops at the most logical point (the last episode before Red Sky). That said, its a nice space saver compared to the DVDs, and extras could always be filmed via Blu-Ray shall Lionsgate ever have a chance to interview the people behind the OT (Susan Blu would be appropriate lol) shall it get a North American release. If there's no Region 1 release, I'll pursue these Blu-Rays!

Wait...this isn't all the episodes?:(

MrPliggins 10-22-2013 09:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kendamu (Post 1170253)
That honestly depends on what sort of source is being used. If they just have some standard definition digital masters or tapes, then this would be an upscale at best. However, if the source footage they have is actual 16mm film (like FUNimation's masters of Dragon Ball Z), then it actually can be scanned in actual 1080p HD for a Blu-ray release.

Would it benefit from being in HD without some sort of remastering, though? :tconfuse:

True, but judging from the DVD releases, the original films are either lost, inaccessible, or they didn't want to go through the trouble using them. I know a few episodes were merely VHS rips on the DVDs.

DVD 10-22-2013 09:35 AM

Time to do the math.
50 episodes ( rounding down for ease of numbers) on 50Gb equals 10 eps per 10 Gb.
8Gb of DVD has about 8 episodes on each disc.

Ergo both sets are using aprox 1Gb per episode.

I think this is the same SD set but carried over 4 discs instead of 20.

Refractive Reflections 10-22-2013 02:20 PM

I would buy it on Blu ray if it was released in the U.S. and if there truly was a visual improvement on the digital quality here.

...Yet even after all of that I probably won't, because I know they are going to slowly leak out extras (interviews, how to draw OT Turtles, maybe some copies of some unused scripts, or the vocals from the "Shredder In Love" unfinished episode, etc.) with each release. Pssh, I'll probably be waiting for another 2 years until I feel satisfied enough to buy anything. :lol:

Dawnatello Turtle Chick 10-22-2013 02:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JYX (Post 1170453)
Pssh, I'll probably be waiting for another 2 years until I feel satisfied enough to buy anything. :lol:

Or 10, lol. They like to drag their feet! :tlol:

TheSkeletonMan939 10-22-2013 02:44 PM

Wow. If this is really a digital remaster that'd be awesome. Even better if it had 5.1 sound - a better chance of a fan-made soundtrack coming out.

But it's probably an SD upscale.

Refractive Reflections 10-22-2013 03:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dawnatello Turtle Chick (Post 1170461)
Or 10, lol. They like to drag their feet! :tlol:

It's smart from a business perspective to do that, but of course maddening for us fans. We keep buying the same previous 97% content for an additional bonus on each release. :lol:

ledahead 10-22-2013 04:02 PM

I purchased all the seasons of the OT on DVD over the summer so it sucks to know that the OT will be coming out on blu-ray. Unless there is some sort of visual improvement I won't buy the OT on blu ray.

Refractive Reflections 10-23-2013 01:17 AM

OT has the same German Motion Picture Rating as Gravity, 2 Guns, and Jurassic Park?!?
 
Wait a second... I know this is off-tangent but on those Amazon website Blu-Ray cover pictures, is the green circle on the bottom left corner the German rating system?

I'm just surprised that they consider the OT episodes so "mature" (Freigegeben ab 12 Jahren (FSK 12): children 12 or older admitted, children between 6 and 11 only when accompanied by parent or a legal guardian (green sign)), that it has the SAME rating as Gravity (PG-13), 2 Guns (R), and Jurassic Park (PG-13).

...Say what? :lol:
You see American TMNT fans, the OT is still apparently considered "too violent" in parts of Europe! So don't criticize the show for being so "slapstick", it was forced to tone it down for international appeal. :lol:

Zulithe 10-23-2013 02:00 AM

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I may have to get these!!

Powder 10-23-2013 02:08 AM

Maybe it's just a matter of politically correct sensitivity?

Refractive Reflections 10-23-2013 03:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Powder (Post 1170674)
Maybe it's just a matter of politically correct sensitivity?

Could be...:lol: **shrug**
I guess I find it hilarious that according to this German rating system, if I have a 7 or 8 year old child who watches the OT with me and doesn't find it disturbing, then theoretically, my 7 or 8 year old kid is "mature enough" to handle Jurassic Park, 2 Guns, Gravity, Hotel Rwanda (2004) (PG-13 rating in U.S.), Crash (2004) (R rating), and Argo (R rating) with me as well. :lol:

...They should lower it to FSK 6, but whatever.

Shark_Blade 10-23-2013 04:06 AM

Now if people say OT is too childish I'll just shove this "mature" rating down their throat. :cool:

mb1025 10-23-2013 06:42 PM

I hope we get this in NA even if it isn't better quality. I had the first few seasons on DVD, but when the releases became to far apart I just lost track of getting them.

Here I can just put them in with the other blu rays I have.

AleXviD 11-07-2013 12:07 AM

Sorry for being the party pooper, guys, but do any of you know that KSM also released original He-Man and the MOTU on Blu-Ray? Are you aware that this releases is THE s***? No? Read here and here (use Google translate to have a basic idea of what is said in the product comments)!

And let's not forget that German versions of the OT was made from censored British version (no chucks or "ninja" words). KSM DVDs included both censored and uncensored versions, but I'm pretty sure that Blu-rays will get only those with German audio.

Cipher 11-07-2013 12:23 AM

One disc for 56 episodes? That can't be right. Or the quality must be at or sub-DVD level.

Also, re: the standard definition comment last page, the Fred Wolf cartoon used actual film. With access to masters in high-enough quality, a true high definition version that looks significantly better than its standard-definition counterpart could be produced. And, while not as noticeable as with live action due to a lower level of detail, high-definition film animation still does look noticeably better.

This, as opposed to say the 4Kids series or Turtles Forever, which, as far as I know, were filmed digitally in standard definition; they'll never be able to look better than the best standard-definition encode they could get.

Ryanator008 11-20-2013 06:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DVD (Post 1170376)
Time to do the math.
50 episodes ( rounding down for ease of numbers) on 50Gb equals 10 eps per 10 Gb.
8Gb of DVD has about 8 episodes on each disc.

Ergo both sets are using aprox 1Gb per episode.

I think this is the same SD set but carried over 4 discs instead of 20.

...You must not know just how big a gigabyte is... To put it in perspective: One episode of Pokemon (an SD season made around the same time as the OT) that I copied to my computer is about 150 megabytes. There are about 1000 megabytes in a gigabyte. EDIT: That still doesn't mean that they used up all the space, or even dual-layer Blu-Rays.

TheSkeletonMan939 11-22-2013 06:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ryanator008 (Post 1180723)
...You must not know just how big a gigabyte is... To put it in perspective: One episode of Pokemon (an SD season made around the same time as the OT) that I copied to my computer is about 150 megabytes. There are about 1000 megabytes in a gigabyte. EDIT: That still doesn't mean that they used up all the space, or even dual-layer Blu-Rays.

That's your heavily compressed Pokemon episode on your computer. I'm sure the master copy of the episode is at least a gig.

rickwj324 11-22-2013 09:53 AM

I'm pretty certain the company that does these (and other complete series like He-man) is quite notorious for horrible quality. These are definitely SD videos and if I'm not mistaken they are GERMAN ONLY AUDIO!! I know the other series they've done have been this way.
I'm not sure if they are region-locked, but whether they are or aren't I'm quite sure these are not worth buying.

Rick

Ryanator008 11-22-2013 06:57 PM

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Originally Posted by TheSkeletonMan939 (Post 1181209)
That's your heavily compressed Pokemon episode on your computer. I'm sure the master copy of the episode is at least a gig.

Well couldn't they heavily compress TMNT?

AleXviD 11-22-2013 07:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ryanator008 (Post 1181419)
Well couldn't they heavily compress TMNT?

But why? OT looks like crap as it is, no need to compress it even harder.


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