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Machias Banshee 05-10-2014 09:13 PM

Official Episode Discussion S2 #17 "Newtralized!"
 
http://vimeo.com/94534595

Okay, so it's been an Extremely busy couple of weeks - but we got a new episode coming up in just a couple hours, so let's get started here, shall we?

So, the city is full of mutants and they're catching wind of just who caused their changes. And some aren't hiding in the shadows anymore...

Not that they're teaming up with the turtles against a common enemy. None of this "enemy of my enemy is my friend" nonsense. With hair-trigger tempers and big weapons, to paraphrase Shakespeare, Revenge acquaints a man with some Really Strange bedfellows...


WILL THE NEUTRALIZER REVEAL MORE ABOUT HIS PAST?!
WILL RAPHAEL AND SLASH MAKE AMENDS FOR THEIR PAST AGGRESSIONS?!
WILL I STAY AWake Long enough to finish this thre....

*Zzzz......*

(Stay tuned!)

ninja-zero 05-10-2014 09:53 PM

Is there gonna be episode online soon? Cause I'm desperate!

snake 05-10-2014 10:01 PM

*Waiting for iTunes intensifies*

Zulithe 05-10-2014 10:15 PM

*rubs his eyes*

I'm awake... I'm awake... just reading some comics till the episode goes up in a few hours

Quote:

Originally Posted by ninja-zero (Post 1262058)
Is there gonna be episode online soon? Cause I'm desperate!

Yes, digital versions go on sale a few minutes after midnight. Having a Season Pass has nice advantages :)

Warhorse 05-10-2014 10:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Machias Banshee (Post 1262037)
http://vimeo.com/94534595

Okay, so it's been an Extremely busy couple of weeks - but we got a new episode coming up in just a couple hours, so let's get started here, shall we?

So, the city is full of mutants and they're catching wind of just who caused their changes. And some aren't hiding in the shadows anymore...

Not that they're teaming up with the turtles against a common enemy. None of this "enemy of my enemy is my friend" nonsense. With hair-trigger tempers and big weapons, to paraphrase Shakespeare, Revenge acquaints a man with some Really Strange bedfellows...


WILL THE NEUTRALIZER REVEAL MORE ABOUT HIS PAST?!
WILL RAPHAEL AND SLASH MAKE AMENDS FOR THEIR PAST AGGRESSIONS?!
WILL I STAY AWake Long enough to finish this thre....

*Zzzz......*

(Stay tuned!)

Oh man, come on, you can stay up. It's Saturday night for crying out loud.

Vicky82 05-11-2014 03:15 AM

Just seen the episode it was pretty good, will post thoughts later.

shredder orokusaki 05-11-2014 07:15 AM

Pretty good episode. But it was just another kraang episode.

Ninjinister 05-11-2014 07:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Warhorse (Post 1262078)
Oh man, come on, you can stay up. It's Saturday night for crying out loud.

Right. Because that means anything.

ninja-zero 05-11-2014 07:59 AM

Somebody PLEASE post them up already!

CowabungaMikey 05-11-2014 08:17 AM

It was great! I won't spoiler anything yet, but this episode contains the greatest Kraang-quote ever:

This is what is known as: AWESOME!

CyberCubed 05-11-2014 09:33 AM

Was a good episode, although it felt rather filler-ish. Nice to see Newtralizer and Slash back anyway.

Casey and Raph have their usual falling out moment.

Interesting to note Newtralizer said there are 10 dimensions. I wonder if that was just a throwaway line or if its actually important.

ObiWanFan4life 05-11-2014 09:34 AM

Am I the only one hoping for Slash to get his own spin off show like Angel?

Donatello19 05-11-2014 09:35 AM

To me it was just an ok episode. Not as good as last week's, but it was cool to see Slash again. Funniest moment: Don putting the spyroach on Slash and giving him a thumbs up before getting punched in the face in slow motion :lol:

I did like the callbacks to "Wormquake!" "Mutagen Man Unleashed" "Operation: Breakout" and "Slash and Destroy".

CyberCubed 05-11-2014 09:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ObiWanFan4life (Post 1262243)
Am I the only one hoping for Slash to get his own spin off show like Angel?

Uh...no. I don't see what much of a show would be about other than Slash fighting random things.

Vicky82 05-11-2014 09:37 AM

It was a good episode it had lot's of fighting and action but sadly it's not in my top 5 but still in my top 10.

Kraang's New weapon looked similar to Krang's new weapon from the 80s episode Turtles on Trial.
Doesn't look like Newtralizer isn't going to be the turtles allie, We had a little bit of his backstory, he's insane and wants revenge against the Kraang because he was imprisioned and tortured (this is a kids show right) and he doesn't care who gets hurt.
Slash still got some good in him, Newtralizer just used him. He was concerned about the humans getting hurt, which shows he does care.
Slash decided to go solo which got Raph sad was a little heartbreaking.

Good moments
Cowabunga skate shop
Leo going alone while the others team up, which looks like Leo can look after himself (for now!).
The atmosphere when Leo is in the tunnels is so well-handled - it’s creepy and foreboding,
Raph vs Slash part 2 was short but was cool (did Raph pop his rib cage back in)
ICK Cameo - he seems to know what everyone wants from the freezer, he must have got good hearing.
Donnie saying to Mikey to stop eating the Kraang locations - Pac Man reference
The flashback - which explained how Slash and The Newtralizer met
Donnie got a new spy roach and was another flashback seeing how Donnie got the spy roach on to Slash.
Donnie's punch to the face in Slow mo looked brutal.
Donnie must have a army of spy roaches as it said spy roach 3 online on his T phone
Raph vs The Newtralizer was epic
Raph saving Slash's life
Casey saving the day

Funny moments
Mikey immatating the Kraang using it's head and Donnie facepalming using a Kraang hand
Mikey mimicking Donnie because Donnie reminded Mikey that he named the Newtralizer
Newtralizer sounded like a dolphin and trying to get his translator to work.
Donnie and Leo rolling their eyes when Casey said he invited himself
Kraang giving the thumbs up
Kraang Quote - 'This is what known as awesome' and 'Watch out for Kraang, Stupid Kraang' and 'Go to the direction known as this way'.
Newtralizer Quote - 'Rokka, Rokka, Rokka' I guess is a reference to Fozzie Bear from The Muppets who says 'Wacka, Wacka, Wacka'

snake 05-11-2014 09:39 AM

I actually liked this one a bit more then last weeks. Slash was great, Newt was great, ICK was great, pretty much everything was great.


I loooooooooooved all those references to past episodes.

CyberCubed 05-11-2014 09:41 AM

I could have sworn Newtralizer's, "Rocka, rocka rocka!" is from some other TV show, comic or movie?

Does anyone recognize that from somewhere?

Ninjinister 05-11-2014 09:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ObiWanFan4life (Post 1262243)
Am I the only one hoping for Slash to get his own spin off show like Angel?

Wait, when did she get her own show? She barely even showed up on 2K3 as it is.

Vicky82 05-11-2014 09:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CyberCubed (Post 1262257)
I could have sworn Newtralizer's, "Rocka, rocka rocka!" is from some other TV show, comic or movie?

Does anyone recognize that from somewhere?

Fozzie Bear from The Muppets but he says "Wacka, Wacka, Wacka",

ObiWanFan4life 05-11-2014 09:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CyberCubed (Post 1262248)
Uh...no. I don't see what much of a show would be about other than Slash fighting random things.

I know, I wasn't being serious. I would however like to see more of him and Newtralizer (not together) to break away from just fighting the kraang.

snake 05-11-2014 09:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ninjinister (Post 1262259)
Wait, when did she get her own show? She barely even showed up on 2K3 as it is.

Nope, this angel. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Angel_(1999_TV_series)

ObiWanFan4life 05-11-2014 09:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ninjinister (Post 1262259)
Wait, when did she get her own show? She barely even showed up on 2K3 as it is.

I was referring to Angel from buffy, and again, it was just a joke.

CyberCubed 05-11-2014 09:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vicky82 (Post 1262260)
Fozzie Bear from The Muppets but he says "Wacka, Wacka, Wacka",

Ah that's what I was probably thinking of, thanks. I knew it sounded similar to something.

snake 05-11-2014 09:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cybercubed (Post 1262257)
i could have sworn newtralizer's, "rocka, rocka rocka!" is from some other tv show, comic or movie?

Does anyone recognize that from somewhere?

rockarockarockarockarockarockarockarocka


The way he said it was hypnotizing.

JTH 05-11-2014 09:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vicky82 (Post 1262260)
Fozzie Bear from The Muppets but he says "Wacka, Wacka, Wacka",

"Wocka! Wocka!"

electric_sheep 05-11-2014 09:52 AM

Crappy, good to bad ratio is 1 good-2 bad episodes...

JTH 05-11-2014 10:03 AM

Honestly, I'm sure what to think of this episode.

I'll have to watch it again to see.

Rukitron 05-11-2014 10:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CyberCubed (Post 1262242)
Was a good episode, although it felt rather filler-ish. Nice to see Newtralizer and Slash back anyway.

Casey and Raph have their usual falling out moment.

Interesting to note Newtralizer said there are 10 dimensions. I wonder if that was just a throwaway line or if its actually important.

so 10 dimensions = ?
1. Dimension X
2. 2k12 world
3. 80s world
4. 2k3 world?
5. classic comic book world?
6. Usagi Yo-wait Sakai didn't want to : (
7. Fugitoid's?
8. wherever the battle nexus took place?
9. your guess is as good as mine
10.???

Well we know 3/10 supposed dimensions.

I wonder why Newtralizer says Rocka rocka rocka a lot. Also how a terminator 2 homage with a new good guy cockroach terminator would play?

Ninjawolf 05-11-2014 10:06 AM

Does anyone else see the obvious parallels between Newt and Leatherhead? Newt is what LH might've became if Mikey didn't find him. And I actually do think He cared for Slash behind his insanity (he's pretty much a well intentioned extremist and not fully evil) but nice to see Slash has underwent a heel-face turn though...

blindturtle02 05-11-2014 10:10 AM

I knew this episode would rocka rocka rocka
 
Great to have fences mended between Raph and Slash. I was wondering when we were going to see that.

So after Metalhead Rewired, did Slash get re-captured by the Kraang to be freed by Newt or could this have happened immediatley following the skirmish at the Kraang prison in MHR? Did we see Slash leaving along with all the other mutants in said episode? If so, I guess Slash just can't stay out of jail. lol

That rocka rocka thing reminded me of Fozzie too. I wonder if Newt is a muppets fan. In all seriousness, it sounds more like some tribal chant. I can see a tun of his species cheering this while going into battle against the Kraang. Loving the Newtralizer after having seen this episode. His translator definitely gives him more personality.

Did anyone notice that Star Wars Slave I cannon sound while the guys were battling the Kraang in act 3? Pretty sure that was taken straight from Jango's pride and joy in Attack of The Clones. Not sure which gun that came from, but I heard it at least twice. May have been the Kraang weapon.

Loved Don's correcting Mikey pertaining to who really named the Newtralizer. "Actually, I named him." haha Mikey's mimicry got a chuckle out of me. And loving the ICK cameo. He's such a helpful little guy. Since cats sleep around 15 or so hrs a day, he must be doing quite alright in that fridge.

My favorite quote has to be,"Stupid Kraang." Liked the "awesome" bit as well, but love it when the Kraang get frustrated with each other. Now if only Kraang Prime would return. Bigbrain is certainly going to have a bone to pick with Newt and Slash after this debacle.

OrangeNinja1987 05-11-2014 10:23 AM

This was a pretty good episode, but not one of my favorites. Mikey and the Kraang had some pretty funny lines and I loved the ICK cameo, but I've got to say my favorite part was when Donatello was slow-motion fighting with Slash and put the spy-roach on him right before being brutally punched in the face. That must have hurt bad.
I like Slash better as an antagonist but I'm okay with him on the turtles' side now. To me, it just felt a bit rushed the way he befriended Raphael again.
Overall: 7/10 :tgrin:

JTH 05-11-2014 10:39 AM

This interesting moving forward, being Slash is somewhat familiar with the Kraang Technology, I'm wondering if this mentioned episode when Raph gets possessed by a Kraang, if the others may need Slash's to help him?

Coola Yagami 05-11-2014 10:40 AM

The flashback made no sense..... Newt rescued Slash from the Kraang.... so... did the Kraang re-capture them both before the episode we saw? Or was Slash re-captured by the Kraang after he got away before the episode we saw?

Ninjawolf 05-11-2014 10:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jth (Post 1262286)

Hey it's a valid trope XD but yeah I don't think Newt's evi, just very revenge driven

JTH 05-11-2014 10:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Coola Yagami (Post 1262296)
The flashback made no sense..... Newt rescued Slash from the Kraang.... so... did the Kraang re-capture them both before the episode we saw? Or was Slash re-captured by the Kraang after he got away before the episode we saw?

I'd say the latter, because remember what the people on the show stated, despite what it may have looked like in "Metalhead Rewired", Newtralizer was not suppose to be one of the captives of the Kraang in that episode.

Donatello19 05-11-2014 11:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CyberCubed (Post 1262269)
Ah that's what I was probably thinking of, thanks. I knew it sounded similar to something.

I'm pretty sure Grimace from the old Mcdonald's commercials said something like it, too.

Zulithe 05-11-2014 11:11 AM

I think it was close to as good as last week, i guess it depends on if you prefer a kraang centric or shredder & henchmen centric episode. While Lonely Mutation had a new transformation/charater, Newtralized expanded on newtralizer a ton more because he didn't speak in his debut episode.

It's interesting to me to see the gradation in the lengths some characters will go to fight the Kraang. The turtles, Slash and Newtralizer all have their own POV on how to go about it. I liked that about this episode.

Glad they addressed Casey's inexperience. There is no way he is on par with the turtles in being able to take on all these ninjas and aliens. Heck even April has had some formal trailing from Splinter (granted they really sped up her progression)... Casey is a tough kid but he has a lot to learn. I hope they continue to develop that.

When foes team up it always makes for a fun episode so definitely liked that. Kinda a shame that it didn't last longer, but it made for a pretty good arc in the ep.

A few of my highlights:
- lots of casey and raph interaction. love seeing them two on their own out fighting crime.
- "the kraang is getting their kraangs handed to them" :lol:
- don's headpiece, cool tech!
- leo detective work in the sewer. While Don may technically be the smart one, I feel detective fits Leo way better. Kind of reminds me of Obi Wan from Episode II a little, going around investigating clues. I want to see more of Leo doing stuff like that!
- anytime spike or newtralizer are fighting it just looks SO COOL. I thought Raph really shined here too, he got a lot of great fight sequences. Definitely a 'Raph' centric episode, one of the strongest for him too.
- loved the flashback of newt/slash meeting, very cool. newt's voice sounds great too
- when newt is examining the kraang plans... that panel that comes out of his arm, really cool looking design on that
- that kraang machine, wouldn't be surprised if we see another of those
- they re-used the dock set! was wondering when they'd go back there
- cockroack spy returns! foreshadowing... a 2nd roach mutation in the future?

If I had one complaint to make it would be that, while newtralizer has a cool voice and look to him, a part of me prefers that mysteriousness he had from his debut episode, he just felt more badass there. Like a means-business kind of bounty hunter. He almost seems like a different character now. "rackarackaracka!" (I'm sure that will be a hit with the kids! buzzbuzz!)

8 out of 10 for me

TurtleTitan97 05-11-2014 11:17 AM

Awesome episode overall. Look forward to seeing more of the Newtralizer.:D

CyberCubed 05-11-2014 11:37 AM

I think its kind funny how the Kraang fail 90% of their missions yet apparently the Turtles still can't bring them all down for good.

fridaynightdestination 05-11-2014 11:51 AM

Does this show want me to hate Raphael? Cause this is how you get me to hate Raphael.

Anyway, good episode overall! Even though this episode made me dislike Raphael for being such an a$$hole to Casey, it was cool overall. I liked seeing
Spoiler:
Slash actually helping the turtles
, the final fight at the end was cool, and this is minor, but I liked Slash actually calling Donatello, "Donatello", it seems like everyone refers to the turtles as their shortened names (Leo, Mikey, Donnie, Raph) I can't even remember the last time their full names were said, even though it was just Donatello.

I give this episode a 7.5/10


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