The sexual pursuit of Jack Kurtzman
 

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So Kurtzman actually had a sexual relationship with a female mutant alien (some even speculated that she’s Mona Lisa)….

Proof?

1) The fedora hat is obviously Kurtzman’s

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2) The folded clothes that she holds with her tail looks like Kurtzman’s suit

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3) That’s not a female underwear she’s wearing, more like a man’s boxer….even the shirt she’s wearing..you do the math.

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4) Drinks for two?

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Nick you naughty lot I thought this was a kid’s show? XD I admit I love all the adult humors they mischievously sneaked in though :lol:

You seem surprised about adult humour in a kids show.
It's been around since forever. And it wasn't always just jokes either.
Samurai Jack had a scene with women dancing suggestively in a club.

Spoiler warning next time?

Also, wtf.

The "suit" isn't a suit, it's a blanket folded up on the arm of the couch.
Probably to go with the pillow at the other end. I'm assuming Kurtzman sleeps on the couch regularly.

The hat the alien is wearing isn't the same kind of hat.
It's more of a straw boater, rather than the fedora that kurtzman is wearing.

The boxers and men's button down shirt...those I'll give you.
Poor woman's lingerie, bless it.

I love Mike's expression though.

This is what a turtle boner looks like.
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LMAO. That is awesome. Good detective work, sir!

Has anyone thought that the woman might actually be Kurtzman himself? His human look could be a disguise/hologram or whatever and that lizard lady might be his true form.

Interesting but far fetched. If it were a holograph, people would have noticed had parts that he wasn't supposed to when Leatherhead was carrying him and Splinter said he needed to cauterize the wound i.e. Sear the wound closed.


While Kurtzman's humanity is still in question, we are more likely to see him revealed as the Fugatoid then we would see him being revealed as a female.

Raph be like, Wtf?

Haven't you learned yet? There is nothing too far-fetched in this iteration :P

I don't know what it is, but there is something really odd about the art style on her face. I struggle to put my finger on it, but there is something quite different to the usual styles for the Nick characters done so far.

Longer, more accentuated chin than most human characters (or any character for that matter), very high cheek bones, and a more 'triangular' look to her face overall.

She reminds me a lot of the way the Neutrino's were drawn in the OT.

he has great taste in women though

This thread cracks me up. I'd like to think that maybe she was an old girlfriend who got mutated into a lizard by the Kraang. I love what Nick can get away with though.

My poor mind. >< :lol:

I do wonder why they used those two as opposed to showing everyone's reactions...and why did Raph gasp. Oh well... I guess that interpretation is no worse than the we're not that kind of sub joke that got past censors.

Alright... So anyhow. Maybe she's a girlfriend or friend he simply hasn't mentioned to protect her. Maybe she was with him and got hit with one of those canisters in season 2 and needed clothing post mutation, and thus he offered what she could manage to get on for the time being.

I don't think she's holding anything with her tail, it looks to me like her tail is simply over the arm of the sofa and a blanket or something is folded over the arm of it.

Doubtful it's Mona Lisa, who was more salamander, right? Amphibian rather than reptile. This lady definitely look like she got mixed with iguana. (Or...was...one?)


Interesting theory, but in that case who took the photo? Or was it on a timer and this one of those "trying to look hot for Facebook" pictures?

You have great points there. There are a lot of clues in that one photo. I believe they put that in there as foreshadowing rather than a quick joke since we get a good look at her and it's in great detail. It sure does leave a lot of questions unanswered.

I get the idea that she has quite the personality to go with her hot looks. She's sassy and possibly a tough fighter, probably smart. She looks sexy as in she had just stayed the night. I don't get the impression that she was just newly mutated. Wouldn't she be a bit more upset or confused? I know I would be.

And Raph's reaction...I have many speculations on that. Was that a way of telling us he's not gay? I know I've read some speculation that he might be and perhaps they wanted to clarify that for us.

Could she be the mother of Raph's future love interest? Can you imagine a teenage version of her coming into the picture? I could totally see Raph liking her.

Also, maybe they only showed us the reactions of Mikey and Raph since it would be wrong for Donnie and Leo to look turned on since they are already in love with other women.

There are so many possibilities in that one photo. I wonder who thought of the idea of putting her in there in the first place?

Yeah, the background being the guy's former(?) home - given his bulletin board that the Turtles and April got a look at when they first ran into him - makes me think she'll probably show up at some point and isn't just a pic put in the show just because.

Besides, that's a rather detailed model to make with no intention of using her, rather than, say, just illustrate an image instead.

Agree she probably wasn't just mutated, but even still, if she was stuck at his place for a while I could see her still wearing his stuff. I mean in real life it's hard enough to simply find a pair of well fitting jeans, imagine sending this guy to shop for you. :lol: Esp when you haven't a clue what would even fit now. With the tail the boxers are probably just easier.

Personally, people might also just be reading too much into Raph and Mikey. I mean, maybe they were turned on by it, but in the course of the actual show they only see a quick image, it may only be shock as anyone might express if you suddenly saw a really unexpected image among someone's slides. Although I look forward to the Turtles questioning him about who she is. Surely they must...

Raph painted and admired a green girl earlier. Now he's shown reacting to this. Maybe they're just hints that Mona Lisa will show up later. After all, if they're giving 3 turtles love interests, why not go for the fourth?

I actually wouldn't mind if she showed up in season 4 or whatever, as long as the crush isn't written like what we've had so far: love at first sight, not reciprocated, etc.

Of course this could easily be true as well. It would be nice to see at least something come of the picture and not be written off as a gag completely. She looks pretty cool.

[QUOTE=Meliwen;1432482]Raph painted and admired a green girl earlier. Now he's shown reacting to this. Maybe they're just hints that Mona Lisa will show up later. After all, if they're giving 3 turtles love interests, why not go for the fourth?

Is Renet actually a confirmed love interest for Mikey? I always would assumed it would be an infatuation kind of thing, like him doing that goggly eyed thing.

That was assuming Renet wouldn't be in very many episodes tho.

I think it was confirmed that Mikey will have a crush on Renet, and she's voiced by Ashley Johnson who has voiced other love interests opposite Greg Cipes.

As for that woman, I definitely think she'll show up again or will be mentioned again. They didn't just do a quick thing either and let the slide stay there for a few minutes before Jack switched it.

In the other thread, I joked about her being Mona Lisa. It was the first lizard lady I could think of in the Turtleverse. Personally, before stepping into this thread, I viewed Raph and Mikey's reactions as genuine surprise, which is why I posed the question over why they didn't show everyone's reactions. I was including the Mutanimals as well.

I only joked about it being Mona Lisa because Raph gasped. He was enamored. lol. I also thought about the painting he did of the lizard lady. It would be an interesting twist if they were doing that to show that maybe Raph, compared to his brothers, is attracted to actual anthropomorphic reptilians as opposed to humans or mammals.

I was kind of hoping, although it coukd be a possibility still, for Raph not to fall for anyone so that he could remain the one to make those comments regarding the others, but atthe same time, I could see it actually happening and Raph going out of his way to deny it to others and himself. The comedic potential would be high imo. lol

This thread brings up many interesting points, but the initial post did indeed make my day! LOL!

I do like the point made of how Raph painted the green girl on the Van and then POOF here's a green lizard girl and Raph gawking at her. I do have to admit I did also think Mona Lisa immediately. Also Kurtzman being a Fugatoid is definitely a possibility.

Puts new meaning to such phrases as

"Her skin was as dry as a snake in the desert!"

or

"She was an animal in the sack!"

Really? Why do people think Raphael's gay in this version? I didn't get that at all. He even makes that comment about how he thinks Karai is hot in an evil way. That alone tells me he's attracted to girls.

Here here!

Meh, his only problem is he just doesn't like experiencing...feelings. :trazz::tlol: Esp mushy ones.

Hence the comedy potential.

I should clarify, I personally never felt he was gay. I just keep reading other people saying that and I was curious as to why. I do feel that he keeps his mind off of the idea of romance since he never believed they had a chance at love. Now that he's gotten a look at a hot mutated lizard woman he probably has changed his mind.

I think it'd be easier for Raph to believe that he might be more accepted for who and what he is by someone who's not completely human than by someone who is. Donnie and Leo have a certain amount of optimism, but unless it involves his ability to kick a bad-guy's butt, Raph is definitely the pessimist of the team.

Confronting him with a flesh-and-blood female he finds himself liking would probably evoke a similar reaction to that of our good friend, the Grinch.

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I can definitely see the wife/girlfriend-turned-into-a-mutant angle, but I can also see Kurtzman falling for her as she was. She could've been a spy who agreed to acquire information for him- he has to have obtained that knowledge from some outside source- and over the course of their work relationship, they ended up becoming romantically involved. Stranger things have happened.

I see what your saying. I feel like the show just hasn't given a love interest to Raph yet. Donnie's into April, Leo's into Karai, Mikey doesn't care about chicks yet, and Raph I think (as you said) hasn't had the chance yet. I think we know his type ;P granted the whole painting the sexy green chick on the van. If the show introduces Mona Lisa then boom. Green reptile chick and Raph will be a done deal! I hope they bring her in! That'll be so fun!

EDIT: I'm not that far in the IDW series but I think Alopex and Raph have something going on. That would be interesting if the show put her in. But...personally, I think Mona Lisa is a better choice.

Who's Mikey's love interest?

I don't think Mikey has a love interest. I don't think he's at that point yet. He's more into making long-lasting friendships and pizza.

I think it was at NYCC that Renet was confirmed that she'll be a love interest. I'm kinda expecting a cute little crush. :lol: Nothing quite as big a Leo or Donnie's.

Edit: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hqFlySHUZeU#t=647 Jump to 10:33.

Ooo! Cool :D This should be interesting.

I actually like this theory. It would also satisfy my wanting to know how Kurtzman has been able to get all of that information on the Kraang without being directly connected to them.

Something is definitely going on with Alopex and Raph... be it not much at the moment but a bit of harmless flirting really, but they certainly seem to have chemistry.

I'd be pretty happy if she turned out to be Mona Lisa, but if she is I hope they give her a bit of a more interesting back story then in the 80's cartoon. I could certainly see a sort of Kurtzman spy thing going on seeing he has to be getting much of his intel on the Kraang from somewhere after all. The photo does seem to portray her as a bit of a "catwoman" in a sense she looks mischievous as if she would play both sides in as semi antagonistic depending on what perhaps benefited her situation or entertained her the most. I tend to think Raph would be sort of into a bad girl... A bad girl that's not Karai anyway... if that makes sense.

Well, technically, Mona Lisa is the ONLY "green lizard lady". (And why do some fans take her as a salamander?? Salamanders are not usually green, and she clearly had a more reptilian build. She just had webbed hands and feet, which some aquatic lizards do.)

Also, the girl on the van was just WEARING green. Her face was clearly human in the close-up. Just a minor note there, but it keeps coming up as if she IS green. She's not.

Right. I see that too. But I hope they do something different. We've already seen the scenarios that play out with the "bad girl" type due to Karai. I kinda hope Mona Lisa is a bit like the 80s cartoon. She was flirty and she seemed to like Raph from the start. Wouldn't it be cool if a female love interest was finally, for a change, really into one of the turtles? xD It would make for some good comedy but I feel like that's probably gonna be Mikey and Renet's thing. Anyway, I just want to see a different type of gal, ya know? New scenarios. That sort of thing.

She is totally green all over. Her skin is just lighter. https://40.media.tumblr.com/10aaedbb...ze68o1_500.png

Actually, you do raise an interesting point. That would be nice to see someone crushing on one of them. Raph would be perfect only since he would probably be too obliviously pessimistic to catch it for a while if that was the case.