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gibbs615 03-29-2015 03:02 PM

Wonder if there will be a Mona Lisa?
 
They're has been artwork ideas of Mona Lisa from DeviantArt and it would be a good idea for Nick's TMNT 2K12. If anyone here agrees with me just say so!

snake 03-29-2015 03:03 PM

Nah. I'll take anyone over her honestly.

IndigoErth 03-29-2015 03:08 PM

Ohh, this can of worms, huh?

If they don't use her... *shrug* Although because her original appearance was so brief, I do think she would be a great opportunity for Nick to have the option of picking up an existing character many people already like, but who is also almost an entirely blank slate for them to develop and make her their own.

plastroncafe 03-29-2015 03:13 PM

This would be something that would get me watching again.

Powder 03-29-2015 03:18 PM

I'd rather see them create new female mutants who aren't overly feminized, or bring in Koya, than have her return.

Mew 03-29-2015 03:24 PM

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Originally Posted by snake (Post 1438376)
Nah. I'll take anyone over her honestly.

Even Venus?
Oh Snap!

DarkLightDragon 03-29-2015 03:24 PM

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Originally Posted by plastroncafe (Post 1438380)
This would be something that would get me watching again.

Then again, knowing how this shows tends to treat it's female characters, don't get that hopeful that'd she'd be anything but:

A) A love interest for Raph (or any other Turtle).

B) A mutant struggling to control her beast-like nature.

C) A double-agent of the Kraang to get closer to the enemy (them currently being defeated non-withstanding).

or D) Being a literal plot McGuffin with a ton of powers that have her borderline on Mary-Sue territory.

But that's just going by this show's experience. :p:roll:

NinjaPug 03-29-2015 03:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Powder (Post 1438381)
I'd rather see them create new female mutants who aren't overly feminized, or bring in Koya, than have her return.

This. I want more female characters but not Mona Lisa.

IndigoErth 03-29-2015 03:37 PM

If they do ever bring her on board, I sorta hope they at least keep her college age as before. At least old enough to be kept out of that love interest trend.

Heck, if they wanted to make her an alien instead of a mutant, go for it.

victory_angel 03-29-2015 04:12 PM

I'm still standing with the have Mona Lisa be April's mother twist.

The Turtle Terminator 03-29-2015 04:15 PM

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Originally Posted by snake (Post 1438376)
Nah. I'll take anyone over her honestly.

Even Venus De Milo?

Mew 03-29-2015 04:17 PM

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Originally Posted by The Turtle Terminator (Post 1438412)
Even Venus De Milo?

HEY!
I already said that.

Papenbrook 03-29-2015 04:17 PM

I usually don't like the additions of OT elements within the Nick show. So, no, I wouldn't want Mona Lisa in the Nick series.

Luckyday 03-29-2015 04:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Powder (Post 1438381)
I'd rather see them create new female mutants who aren't overly feminized, or bring in Koya, than have her return.

Yup. It would nice if they focus on making her interesting rather then just potential shipping fuel.

Someone that you makes exciting to see her interacting with certain character but is used sparingly.

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Originally Posted by victory_angel (Post 1438410)
I'm still standing with the have Mona Lisa be April's mother twist.

Now that would be interesting twist to get my attention.

TigerClaw 03-29-2015 04:21 PM

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Originally Posted by gibbs615 (Post 1438374)
They're have been artwork ideas of Mona Lisa from DeviantArt and it would be a good idea for Nick's TMNT 2K12. If anyone here agrees with me just say so!

I'm all for Mona Lisa to appear on the show, And yeah, There been a ton of fan art that drew Mona Lisa in the TMNT Nick style.

Here's one that's pretty good, I can totally picture her looking like this on the show.

http://img03.deviantart.net/d261/i/2...al-d8l5jfc.jpg

If she did appear on the show, I would expect something like this to happen.

http://img12.deviantart.net/77cd/i/2...a7-d8lx5g4.jpg

I can see Donnie and Leo freaking and saying "RAPH? Why does he get the girl!"

pennydreadful 03-29-2015 04:54 PM

I'd like to see more female mutants, but I don't want them to be love interests. Like Powder, I'm not into the "we have to give them boobs and hair and eyelashes so they know it's a girl!" thing, regardless of whether it makes sense for their mutation or not.

IndigoErth 03-29-2015 05:12 PM

Yeah, no hair and whatnot...

Maybe a slightly female shape at the waist/hip if they must, at most, (or not, I'm fine with not) but otherwise just portray it in body language/movement (but not exaggerated stereotypical stuff) and female voice.

Allow her to be in a way like Tigress from Kung Fu Panda. It surprises me they had the guts to allow that character to be simply a bipedal tiger, not a tiger with an oddly human female shape. I wish more had the guts to do that and allow the gender of some characters to be based on voice and simply being refereed to as "she." I mean once people catch on they get it, most don't need to be reminded all the time by the addition of boobs.

*NormalGamer* 03-29-2015 06:18 PM

Only with good character development and a unique personality can Mona Lisa can be a great addition to the TMNT 2012 cast. Simply making her another romantic interest from the start would be a path to amatonormativity; I like to see the friendships develop more instead.

Ashwolf 03-29-2015 06:20 PM

id rather see joy on the nick show instead of mona lisa

gibbs615 03-29-2015 09:37 PM

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Originally Posted by TigerClaw (Post 1438419)
I'm all for Mona Lisa to appear on the show, And yeah, There been a ton of fan art that drew Mona Lisa in the TMNT Nick style.

Here's one that's pretty good, I can totally picture her looking like this on the show.

http://img03.deviantart.net/d261/i/2...al-d8l5jfc.jpg

If she did appear on the show, I would expect something like this to happen.

http://img12.deviantart.net/77cd/i/2...a7-d8lx5g4.jpg

I can see Donnie and Leo freaking and saying "RAPH? Why does he get the girl!"

good ones and here's others i've seen

Jester 03-29-2015 09:38 PM

I wonder why with just 1 episode and an action figure this character has such a huge following....

Mutant Ninja Anole 03-29-2015 10:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Jester (Post 1438525)
I wonder why with just 1 episode and an action figure this character has such a huge following....

You know...I've actually been pondering a loooong post in general discussion on this very topic. I may get to it eventually.

Short story: I'm in favor of Mona Lisa, or characters very much like her, in either the Nick or IDW comic worlds.

Leo656 03-29-2015 10:21 PM

I kinda don't care either way, but I'll admit, she caught my attention in the OT and she was memorable for whatever reason. To me, it's like, if they're going to do more mutant characters - and they will - there's no harm in a few of them being chicks. And double for bringing back someone who people remember, regardless of reason.

I kinda don't care much about this show either way anymore, but if they're bringing back this or that character from other TMNT stuff, they could do worse.

CyberCubed 03-29-2015 10:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Jester (Post 1438525)
I wonder why with just 1 episode and an action figure this character has such a huge following....

Well part of it was Mona Lisa actually had a good character and good episode in the original toon. I doubt anyone would have cared for her otherwise.

Besides that Mona Lisa appeals to:

- Shippers (obviously)

- Feminists (she's a rare female mutant)

- Furries/Scalies (the people who like to sexualize and draw fanart of humanoid animal characters. Avoid deviantart and rule 34 at all costs)


If social media existed in the 80's/90's you would see Mona Lisa shrines and character posts all over tumblr, twitter and facebook.

Leo656 03-29-2015 10:39 PM

It'd be worth it just to read chicks gush about wanting to bang ALF.

MsMarvelDuckie 03-29-2015 10:45 PM

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Originally Posted by CyberCubed (Post 1438545)
Avoid deviantart and rule 34 at all costs)


Spoken like someone who NEVER made any of that himself, ROFLMAO!!! I'm callin' you OUT, Mister!! Cubed, you just lost all credibility with that statement. Some of us KNOW your "dirty little secret"..... *cough, Pokemon, cough*


Also, I happen to think Mona Lisa and Raph make a really cute couple in OR out of canon. She kind of balances him out, if you think about it. Would make for some interesting character dynamics with that kind of pairing- and it COULD actually add something to his character to show that "softer side". Y'know, like having her show that he's kind of a Teddy bear on the inside. Or that he's not JUST gruff and sarcastic, but he could be sweet and caring, too. And trading some snarky banter with her. Or- oh, I dunno, lots of things that could make him (and her) interesting and fun.

Luckyday 03-29-2015 10:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Leo656 (Post 1438543)
I kinda don't care either way, but I'll admit, she caught my attention in the OT and she was memorable for whatever reason. To me, it's like, if they're going to do more mutant characters - and they will - there's no harm in a few of them being chicks. And double for bringing back someone who people remember, regardless of reason.

I kinda don't care much about this show either way anymore, but if they're bringing back this or that character from other TMNT stuff, they could do worse.

^The only way that can get my attention or say "It's officially a comeback everybody!" would be if they actually revisit something that was pretty significant but for some reason was drop in the past. Even during the beginning return of New York episodes, I was apprehensive because I knew the good times wouldn't last and that they wouldn't stick the landing. We had more episodes then I thought we would have of them trying to retake the city and that was good but the resolution still felt rush. I just wish it wasn't done with Mikey accidentally creating the super retromutagen.

This whole thing of revisting on what happened to April's mom if she out there somewhere and it turns out that she became Mona Lisa, probably mutating herself on purpose with Newtrailzer's race dna to breath in the atmosphere of dimension x, and that they're actaully going do something with that would really make my day. It so exciting and for once I be wound so exciting to see April and her reaction on seeing her. Just show me the fireworks! I just want to see the fireworks.

Leo656 03-29-2015 10:46 PM

Oh yeah, Cubed wrote Pokemon fics, didn't he? Weren't some of them porn? That's awesome. I don't even know what Pokemon is but I think that's terrific.

IndigoErth 03-29-2015 10:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Leo656 (Post 1438552)
It'd be worth it just to read chicks gush about wanting to bang ALF.

https://31.media.tumblr.com/b27485ac...B9T1r0qfvt.gif

Whatchu talking about... the public TMNT crushing would have just started much sooner. lol

Leo656 03-29-2015 11:03 PM

Oh come on, the ALF fanfiction would be through the roof if there had been such a thing at a time when ALF was popular and banging ALF would actually mean something.

"Y'know, Willy... if there's ONE thing I can't get enough of, it's eating pussy... CATS! HAH!" It writes itself.

MsMarvelDuckie 03-29-2015 11:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Leo656 (Post 1438557)
Oh yeah, Cubed wrote Pokemon fics, didn't he? Weren't some of them porn? That's awesome. I don't even know what Pokemon is but I think that's terrific.


Yes. Yes, he did, and they WERE. And you're friggin' hilarious, Leo.

Leo656 03-29-2015 11:04 PM

I actually do know what Pokemon is.

I just pretend I don't so girls will talk to me.

pennydreadful 03-29-2015 11:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Leo656 (Post 1438563)
"Y'know, Willy... if there's ONE thing I can't get enough of, it's eating pussy... CATS! HAH!" It writes itself.

I completely read that in ALF's voice too. :lol:

senpai 03-29-2015 11:07 PM

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Originally Posted by CyberCubed (Post 1438545)
Besides that Mona Lisa appeals to:

- Feminists (she's a rare female mutant)

I mean, I couldn't care about it one way or the other, but I would say--and I don't consider myself a feminist at all--that it would be really cool to see a female mutant that wasn't working against the turtles. Not saying she should be a love interest. I'd just like to see some female mutants (maybe a cool older one?). Or go younger like Alopex. I think I remember she said she was 14 or something. But Alopex's allegiance is questionable (I'm on issue 37 I think), so I don't think she counts for being on the turtles' side. Maybe add a chick to the Mighty Mutanimals. That would be neato!

Leo656 03-29-2015 11:09 PM

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Originally Posted by pennydreadful (Post 1438566)
I completely read that in ALF's voice too. :lol:

I propose that Adult Swim launches the "All-New ALF and Max Headroom Hour". Or even a half-hour. I'd watch it.

MsMarvelDuckie 03-29-2015 11:50 PM

LOL! So would I.

Refractive Reflections 03-30-2015 12:34 AM

From the archives:
"Mona Lisa needs to be on this show": http://forums.thetechnodrome.com/showthread.php?t=38613

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Originally Posted by Jester (Post 1438525)
I wonder why with just 1 episode and an action figure this character has such a huge following....

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mutant Ninja Anole (Post 1438538)
You know...I've actually been pondering a loooong post in general discussion on this very topic. I may get to it eventually.

Short story: I'm in favor of Mona Lisa, or characters very much like her, in either the Nick or IDW comic worlds.

From the archives:
"How did Mona Lisa become so popular?": http://forums.thetechnodrome.com/showthread.php?t=44150

My opinion about Mona Lisa's popularity:
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Originally Posted by Refractive Reflections (Post 1025943)
I think the reason for Mona Lisa's appeal even after just one OT episode is that she was the first female character to not only meet but at times exceed Raphael's wit and sarcasm that no other character could match.

This playful antagonism of "Raphael Meeting His Match" seemed to open the possibilities of Raphael finally being on the receiving end of cutting remarks, jokes, puns, etc. and with Mona Lisa being female, it hinted at subtle flirtation as well.

...Because what's more hilarious than a notable sarcastic, know-it-all FINALLY getting all of that same aggravation right back on himself?


Candy Kappa 03-30-2015 12:51 AM

I'm more interested to see Koya or Alopex then Mona Lisa.

It doesn't matter which character they would choose, cause her personality would be fitted into the available token box. Now that Karai have left the Bad Girl box and are now the Lost Sister, someone have to fill the badass chick/Femme Fatale role in the show.

neatoman 03-30-2015 02:28 AM

No, no Mona Lisa. How about Angel instead?

rickwj324 03-30-2015 07:26 AM

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Originally Posted by pennydreadful (Post 1438566)
I completely read that in ALF's voice too. :lol:

So did I!! :lol:


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