If you could make a season for the Nick show...
 

It's becoming increasingly clear to me that we all have ideas for this show and quite a bit of them might not be done. Viewing the suggestions thread and reading other stories has inspired me to make my own what-if season. In addition, I'm just tired of the arguments on certain threads, so I wish to dedicate a thread for a full on season created by you all.

So, feel free to talk about what your idea for a what-if season for the Nick show. It can be whatever you wish and also can put forth whoever you want in the spotlight. Just don't bash other ideas, any idea can happen with "Pure Imagination" ;). The power is in your hands everyone.

I ask for only a few requirements:

1. Who the primary villain is (The Foot Clan, the Kraang, an underused character, or any new character/old character to debut)

2. How many episodes would it last (include what they'd be about if you have something planned too, I'd be happy to hear it)

3. Are there any main story arcs you have in mind? (ex: the triangle of Shredder, Karai, and Splinter)

Apologies with starting another thread, but I am curious to see the imagination of the community.

I guess I'd go with a slightly watered down (pun not intended) version of the Future Turtles' stories from the Archie comics.

If he's still alive, Rat King would be a great antagonist for a season. Otherwise I'd go with the Foot and have a season based on "City at War".

Assuming this is following from Season 3? I guess focusing on Bishop, the EPF and the manipulations of the Rat King, with some gentle focus given to Baxter growing into a more dangerous threat long term.

The current style of 20 episodes seems to work well for length, but for me the critical thing is story arcs. I love having extended stories developed over several episodes, even if its just very slight nudging or foreshadowed mentions in otherwise 'Filler' eps.

Again, assuming this was a season 4 thing - at least one story arc for each of the Turtles - interlinking with each other and tidying up some of the ideas seemingly abandoned or half baked in previous seasons -

Raph's rivalry with Fishface brewing into more personal attacks, his friendship with Slash being sorely tested, or developing his friendship with Casey. Potentially picking up the mind control as a 'foreshadow' of him actually willingly turning evil (or turning against the Turtles - similar to Slash perhaps? Leaving to become a lone vigilante and becoming a rival?)

Mikey's growth from childlike naivety to becoming more adult, developing his role as the groups emotional anchor by giving him a reason to need their emotional support and not him providing it. Maybe revisiting his rivalry with Bradford by allowing Mikey a chance to reconcile with Rahzar?

Donatello finally concluding the love arc with the consequences of whatever result it has (lets go with heartbreak as the example and dealing with that). Resolving the Timothy story, possibly with a need to sacrifice something precious to him (choosing between Timothy's survival and April's friendship?). Developing his relationship with the Rat King (as the Rat King seems to have slightly more knowledge of Don's mind than the others). Putting him in a situation where he refuses to fight and examining his reluctance to fight.

Leo being shown that leadership can have a darker side and dealing with the temptations of power. Loosing Karai and dealing with failure/heartbreak (perhaps as a parallel to Don). Another team member being injured and Leo's response to his failure to lead them safely?


Regardless of what you do, every character should have their beliefs challenged or tested in some way and at least one of their relationships with another character examined in detail.

There should be at least two major fallouts or tragedies to deal with and a solid insidious threat from a well rounded villain.

Not asking much :)

A whole season? I doubt I could plot a whole season, but I'd totally put in the "Dale Evans McGuillicutty" story arch from Vol 1 Mirage.

I think it would work really well with this sort of campy, yet clever, version of the turtles.

Then on a more somber note, I'd probably give "The River" a try.

From the OT I'd love to see "Incredible Shrinking Turtles" and "Cufflink Caper."

And for no reason, no reason what so ever, I'd have these new guys make a run through the big turtle stand off from "Turtle's Forever."
Never explain it, or reference again. Just because.

Just in general Tarris, it doesn't have to be season 4. Just your own ideas for a season of the show. :)

I really do agree that character arcs would be a great addition, especially with the maturing and struggles of the brothers. As for villains, seeing Bishop as a villain in a what-if scenario like this would be fun as well as the return of Rat King and growth of Baxter. Give the two latter a big pay off and satisfying defeat too.

These points I agree with and I can see you are really good at character arcs, feel free to continue sharing when you can. :)

I'd make a very mystical fantasy oriented season, for sure.

Big ass time travel arc that makes reference to Turtles In Time, the third film, Archie's future, various Mirage tales, OT episodes, just put all past TMNT time travel & dimension hopping stuff together into one big thing & of course add new stuff along the way. While Mirage & 4kids have always tied this theme to Savanti Romero, I'd probably give his role to someone else, be it a new character or one from the past. Choate would be a cool one to put in play, if it were brought on by a villain, but if it were more of a mishap than a matter of trying to get the turtles killed, I'd like to see Cudley The Cowlick & Dale Evans McGuillitcutty caught up in it. Dunno what the motive behind their trip would be, but I'd like it to feel more fun than tense. Perhaps April was messing with her powers & accidentally blasted herself across time & the turtles have to track her down by following her ever on the move particle trail or something. You could go in a lot of different directions with it.

I'd want to explore spirituality & magic, too. Get the turtles meditating, visiting the astral plane, learning how to use chi & whatnot. Bring Dragonlord into it. Have Rat King's ghost visiting Splinter like in Mirage, but also checking in with Dragonlord. He's a fencewalker, playing both sides for laughs in the afterlife. Send the turtles to China to learn how to do some ancient technique tying into their out of body experiences & have them run into Vam Mi & her goons along the way. I'd like Hot-head to help them defeat Dragonlord.

I also really want a mafia war. Rival mob factions. Big Louie, Don Turtelli, Mad Dog Mcmutt, Wally "The Beaver" Cleaver, you name 'em. Dunno that they'd have a place in the same season at those other concepts, but it's a want nonetheless. I'd also like there to be one episode for each turtle, focusing on something they're dealing with in their own head. A little development. Oh, & a slice of life styled episode or two. No villain, no drama, just some downtime for the boys. Maybe they try to spend a day being average teenagers, sneaking into a movie & whatnot. Struggling to enjoy it due to the whole need for stealth thing. :tlol:

Archie's World Tour, introducing other Mutanimals, building up Null, maybe leading to interactions with Future Don and Raph.

I actually asked Ciro this question when we interviewed him on the Shellshocked Podcast, though he said it'd be too hard to do that in CGI.

Really fun ideas Powder. :)

Assuming if Next Mutation can be used by the creators, Dragonlord could be a new antagonist alongside Dregg. Combine that with a story involving both the Tribunal saga and Vision Quest and I'd love to see this idea come to life. As for spirits, I'd personally love a ghost filler episode, but I can see the afterlife as an idea rarely seen in the shows. Perhaps alongside superpowers? (Getting ahead of myself)

I wouldn't be surprised by a gang war approaching in the series as a finale or arc, it seems to be a route that could be taken and is my biggest hope for the season 3 finale involving the mind control arc.

The time travel arc would be what I desire the most as a what-if, I already have an idea ready for a plot and planned most of the locations. I would like it to have Shredder as the main villain and have it be a conclusion to the series, but utilize elements from every part of the franchise. Locations are:
-New York City (obviously)

-Ancient Japan (tie to the origins with the live-action trilogy too)

-Dimension X (Triceratons fighting)

-Outer Space (Lord Dregg searching for the Hyperstone ;))

-Alternate reality (the Turtles are brainwashed working for the Foot Clan and later become the Super Turtles, but as villains. Mighty Mutanimals sans Pete are also soldiers for the Foot Clan)

This is what I have so far and will make it in the style of the 26 episodes. Again, really nice ideas. :)

I really like the idea of the turtles being in a different environment like the Northampton arc but my mini season wouldn't be smack dab in the middle of another arc.

What I would do is have them go to sea to where the technodrome was sank and they meet and fought ghost pirate ships along the way and other sea mutants that were created due a mutagen leakage from the technodrome. The group end up getting marooned on a desert island but they discovered that it has a secret government facility with recovered kraang technology. Turtles have to find a way to get the tech so that it doesn't fall in the wrong hands all while trying to find a way to get off the island.

I could see that happening for an arc or at least have it where the Rat King mutates one of the Turtles/ Casey into a Mutant Rat and the Turtles attempts to cure him. It'd have even more of an emotional impact if it was Donnie that was mutated.

I'd have maybe take an arc story from one series and expand upon it.

For Example, lets take the Good Genes arc
It's largely a three story arc. Technically it's longer then that though, so if the cards are played right it could last at least half a season if not more.

The basic plot is Donnie becomes sick with a cold after being stung by a mutation carrying mutant insect. He turns into a monster and is slowly losing himself to his mutation. In a desperate attempt to save their brother they go to Bishop. Bishop lies to them and informs the Turtles that he would cure their brother, but they have to get something from the Foot Clan for him. Fortunately leather head is able to create a cure from looking at Stockman's attempts.

For example the season could begin with an unexplained mutant outbreak in the city. The Turtles are dealing with it and wondering if the Kraang are back. While dealing with the mutant outbreak Donnie gets scratched by one of the mutants but they don't think anything of it. Donnie studies one the outbreak mutants and finds that the mutagen that mutated it was man made. Scene shifts to Bishop who is overseeing some whitish ooze that is being pumped into the sewers.

Episode 2 Next episode deals with the turtles trying to deal with the outbreak mutants and trying to find the source of the outbreak before Shredder finds out about it. Shredder however also sees an advantage in this outbreak and wants every mutant creature rounded up and captured.

episode 3 Next episode the Mutanimals help out with the out break. It is discovered that a human has been added it the list of mutants, the said mutant is reported and contained by a man working for Bishop named Dirk Savage. Dirk also gives Bishop footage of the Turtles.

episode 4 Next Episode The Turtles are trying to succeed in securing more outbreak mutants and learn the Shredder is doing the same. The mutanimals are captured by Dirk Savage.

Episode 5 Next episode Donnie starts developing cold like symptoms. Episode focuses on April and Casey.

Episode 6 Next episode, Turtles try to contact Mutanimals with no luck. Concerned over what has happened to them, focus on Leo. Donnie's illness becomes worse.

Episode 7 During a mission, Turtles are captured by Dirk Savage and brought to Bishop. All of them are placed in separate cells. Leo is placed in between Rockwell and Mikey, Donnie is placed across from Raph. Raph is next door to Pigeon Pete. Leather head and Slash are on either side of Donnie. Both Slash and Leatherhead have been experimented on which causes them to go into fugue states. They learn that Bishop is the person who created the outbreak mutagen. The reason for it is because after the Kraang got the jump on the EPF and mind controlled everyone who was sent to New York, the government wanted to pull the plug on their organization. The outbreak was only to be used as a means of keeping funding going. Unfortunately the spread went faster then anticipated. Donnie's cell is opened and two EPF guards start to drag Donnie way for experimentation. Raph tells the Bishop to do experiments on him instead. Bishop however ignores this which causes Slash to go into a fugue state as he attempts to break out of his cell. April, Casey, and Splinter arrive and save everyone. Slash tells everyone to get out of the building, he was going to save their brother. When the building explodes everyone is worried that Slash and Donnie didn't make it until they see Slash walk out cradling a weak and feverish Donnie in his arms.

Episode 8 Next episode Donnie is sick in bed. Focus on Raph, Casey, and Slash.

Episode 9 Next episode focus on Mikey. Mikey is worried about Donnie's illness and feels something is off about his brother. Rockwell and April are also concerned that this may not be a typical case of the flu.

Episode 10 and 11 Next Episode Mid-Season Finally. Turtles are going out to scout out what Shredder is doing with the outbreak mutants. April, Casey, and Splinter are staying behind to look after Donnie. When Splinter, April, and Casey are in another room conversing while Donnie is asleep, Donnie's eyes open and glow red before he screams. Casey contacts Raph with his distress signal. Everyone returns to the lair and find it trashed, and a shaken Casey trying to comfort a distressed April and Splinter. The three of them tell the other Turtles that Donnie transformed into some freaking looking monster before racing out of the lair. Turtle contact the mutanimals, Rockwell examines the bandages Donnie had been wearing and the tells that the other Turtles that some of bishops mutagen had entered Donnie's blood stream and that it was at war with his already mutated DNA. It was possible the illness was a catalyst for the transformation process to take place. Rockwell then shows a large containment unit and says he that he built that with Donatello as a means of capturing and studying larger mutations. He never thought that it would have to be used on Donatello. Leo tells everyone that they have no time to waste, they need to find Donnie before Shredder does.

1. Who the primary villain is (The Foot Clan, the Kraang, an underused character, or any new character/old character to debut)

• Shredder
• Usagi Yojimbo (misled into being a villain but later turn good)
• Kraang Prime (without his kraang armies)

2. How many episodes would it last (include what they'd be about if you have something planned too, I'd be happy to hear it)
22-25 episodes.


3. Are there any main story arcs you have in mind? (ex: the triangle of Shredder, Karai, and Splinter)
Exploring each of the boys life challenges in more depth, their hard choices and the repercussion of those choices that leads to the climax of the season's finale.

This would be a great adaptation of that arc.

The Good Genes story arc is the storyline of the 2003 series I want to see adapted into the show. I'd personally like it if Raphael turned into his super mutant state from the Mirage Comics as the character who suffers though, but I can agree with anyone getting the mutant treatment. Really good blend of bringing in both the previous television series with Dirk and Bishop. I must ask though, how would this story end? (once you figure it out, don't want to rush you)

As always, excellent work victoryangel. :)

Post Season 4

-Turtles defeat Shredder, Armaggon, whoever and are resting. 1 episode of them just bonding and discussing things.

-Renet out of nowhere, saying that time itself is being threatened by Savanti and Armaggon.

-Turtles in time for 8 episodes

-Turtles find a city without crime and split up

-Raph into the mountains, Leo into the jungles of africa, Donatello moves out to Californa to start a buisness, Mikey stays with Splinter.

-April and Casey go off to college, they see a professor working on a sample of mutagen. He mutates a cat that night and preforms experiments on it.

-While in California, Donnie comes into competition with H-Tech industries, run by Harold.

-Raph encounters the legendary Yeti, finding out it is an intelligent mutant created thousands of years ago. He befriends the mutant.

-Leo becomes a local legend and takes down a slave empire run by a Giraffe mutant with the help of Doctor El.

-Mikey and Splinter face off agains the 7 spirits, one of which was Speed Demon, who wasn't a mutant.

-Old Hob starts his gang and is fought by the mutanimals, Mikey, and Splinter.

-Hob and Slash start a friendship after the fight.

-Mutanimals captured by the EPF, now run by Agent Jane Stars.

-Hob apologizes to Mikey and Splinter after his gang breaks up.

-Break in mission to save Mutanimals

-Leatherhead dies of old age. Pete sacrifices himself.

-Funeral, all attend.

-Mikey, Splinter, Hob, Slash, and Dr. Rockwell have formed a team and fight crime.

-Mole people/mutants from underground threaten NYC.

-Leo has a spiritual encounter and returns home.

No more ideas yet

If Season 4 is supposed to be returning to Dimension X, I would have the finale be a take on IDW #44.

And it could be played out almost exactly the same as the comic. That's the perfect cliffhanger for a season.

A mix of 4kids and Archie elements.

I went with Donnie because in situation such as this they would be lost without him. Leo even explains in the cold opening that if it happened to anyone else, they would have been looking to Don for a cure. And even at the start of the two part Good Genes story line he tells Splinter "I keep wanting to turn to Don to see what brilliant cure he's come up with...but then I remember...that is Don."

The team is greatly effected by Donatello's absence in many cases, but the greatest of all is Splinter, Casey, and April aside...All the turtles really have is each other, and if one of them is gone it hurts the team.

Donnie is the one who balances out the team and without him being a second calm presence Raph and Leo would have killed each other long ago.

So with Raph...he doesn't care who he has to hurt...but he would be a time bomb ready to go off and if Donnie was lost he would want to go take out as Bishop, Savage, and anyone else he felt should suffer for the loss of Donnie.

Mikey would barely be able to keep himself together. I found his reaction during Good Genes the most heartbreaking as he's shown kneeling on the floor looking up at this thing that used to be his intelligent older brother as though his world just died. And then treating the situation as though Donnie was just sick in bed with a cold.

So with Mikey I can see him initially trying to stay positive about everything and how the odds would be in their favor. But it will eventually become clear that he fears losing one of his brothers the most. (Maybe have him going through a five stages of grief kind of thing)

Leo I can see him also trying to keep things positive and insisting that Donnie will be returned to himself, but at the same time they know and fear what he doesn't want to acknowledge which is what should happen if they are unable to find a cure.

Episode 12: Donnie has been captured and contained. He's able to shape shift to his normal form, but each time he returns to his second mutation it's harder for him to become his normal self again. Even when he's normal he refuses to leave the containment for fear of accidentally harming his loved ones.
Rockwell is working to devise a cure and yes he does turn to Donnie for advice when Donnie's in his right mind. The whole situation reminds Leo about Karai and how he failed her. He refuses to let that happen to his brother.

Episode 13: Mikey centered episode. Mikey comes into the lab and talks with Donatallo. Donnie notices that Mikey is strangely subdued. Mikey insists it's nothing but breaks down and comments he's scared that Donnie's not going to get better. Donnie hasn't given up hope just yet...but he has acknowledged that there is a very likely chance that he would be lost to this. Mikey then supplies fond memories as a way of keeping Donnie with them longer which helps ease the pall of grief that rests in the room....but doesn't ease the fear and frustration with it all. Leo and Raph listen to the memories and also have their own childhood memories of Donnie.

Episode 14: Leo and Raph have memory moments with Donatello. At the end Donnie pleads that if a cure can't be found, then he trusts them to know what needs to be done. Both of them understand what Donnie is saying but they are uncomfortable with it.

Episode 15: April talks to Donnie, when Donnie reverts back to his savage monster self. Mikey offers Donnie some pizza as a way to help calm him down however Donnie reached out of the trey hatch and grabs Casey's leg. Everyone tries to get Casey away from Donnie while Splinter helps Donnie find himself again. Donnie returns to himself and is horrified by what he has nearly done. Leo remains behind while everyone else leaves the room, April over hears Leo trying to reassure his brother that everything will be fine and they would see their way past this. Donnie however says "You know as well as I that there isn't a cure, Leo. I rather end it as myself...not a mindless creature. I know this is a heavy task to ask of you...but I can't keep fighting the monster I have become."

^ I also do believe that Donnatello being mutated would cause an even more emotional impact considering Donnatello's the only one intelligent enough to be able to create a Retro-Mutagen and having the Turtles realize that would cause them to miss the positive aspects of Donnatello.

Of course, this is assuming they don't have Mikey B.S. his way into creating more Retromutagen. They would likely have to create this to be a special form of mutation and I would certainly want Raphael to step up and chase down Baxter Stockman for his assistance in curing Donnatello. That would certainly be the side of Raphael that most of his fans would like to see.

I want to c bishop. He is kind.hot.in his evil way.

Purple dragon also cool with me, i want to c more hunt down of them by casey. 2003 just end it too soon...

N they need a new villian than shredder... he is gettin old.... mabe , just maybe, they can reveal a missing son of the shredder, to heritage his evil n revenge on the turtles for his father.


and im hoping for a long show, like detective conan, just keep writing n it never ends.


Of course most important part is to focus on the turtles, on brotherly love on bromance, n to idealize them so to distinguish frm humans or anybody else. P.s. my personal preferance is raph +leo and don+mike.

Well r u bigger?

Now that is a great idea :)

So if we were running with Victory's idea with the good genes and if we try and incorporate some ideas from the Turtle torture thread;

Say...

1: Following on from Shredder's apparent defeat, the Turtles are feeling elated and celebrating. Baxter is still out there, as are most of the Foot's mutant henchmen. Hun is the focus as he starts to recruit the surviving Foot and starts a crime spree. Hun escapes with Tigerclaw, B+R but Fishface is caught and captured by govt forces and Hun's factory taken from him after Turtles defeat them. Karai still recovering with Splinter and reconciles with April.

2: Rahzar re emerges to take revenge for the Shredder. He starts by trying to hunt down the newly 'healed' Karai. Mikey focus as it becomes clear Rahzar has lost all direction and purpose. He has nothing now except revenge. Mikey tries to offer friendship to him, but Leo and Raph having none of it. Mikey sneaks off to try and meet Rahzar alone, but is followed by govt agents. Mikey escapes them as the govt attacks and captures Rahzar. Rahzar infuriated by Mikey's 'betrayal'. Mikey genuinely shocked he may have been responsible and blames himself.

3: Donatello concerned Muckman hasn't been seen in a while. Mikey determined to try and save Rahzar. Turtles start trying to track down the govt agents responsible for the kidnappings. Casey learns his father is back in town and meets with him. His father gets a lot of info out of him. His father warns Casey to be careful of getting too close to his friends - including April. Mikey awols and Raph follows. As he follows Mikey, Raph catches sight of a govt truck following Mikey and intercepts. Don and Leo realise both of them are missing and follow. Eventually Mikey locates a hidden facility belonging to the EPF and Casey's dad. Mikey is captured, and without knowing what they are following, so are Don and Leo. Raph infiltrates and frees them, realising the facility has several mutants (Spiderbytez, etc). Everyone freed with help from Fishface. Rahzar joins the mutanimals. Episode ends with Brody's announcement of the 'Mutant Danger on our streets'.

4: Taking advantage of the city's fear of mutants, Hun starts using Tigerclaw, B+R to intimidate the other gangs. He also want's Shredders last stocks of mutagen. Don is also interested in raiding Shredder's lair for the last mutagen stocks, as he needs it to help Timothy. Raph keen to engage B+R head on as their intimidation starts threatening to blacken mutants reputations even more. Decision that the mutagen is more important. Confrontation at the Foot's lair. During the fight, Hun and Don are both sprayed with something. Don gets the last of the mutagen and brings it back to the lab. In meantime, Casey talking with April about his dad. April reassures him its nothing to worry about. Viewers shown agents are following and discussing April and Casey leading them to 'the lair'. They person they are talking to over the phone is man in shadows. He cuts to another phone call, questioning other agents about the Good Genes project. They say it has begun.

5: Don has a bad cold and after briefly having his shell handed to him in training goes to bed. He wakes up human (and still with a cold). The world around him appears like all his previous life as a turtle was just some bad dream. The others are humans as well, as is Splinter, B+R and even Shredder. He also sees Pulveriser as his best friend. He is still chasing April, but Casey is still a rival. April acts weirdly however, telling him to wake up. Other strange things occur and he starts to realise the Rat King (his apparent science teacher), knows a lot more what is going on. Eventually realises the Rat King is using his delirious state to make a dream reality to discover where the last of the mutagen is and to hypnotise Don into handing it to him (Don has been sleep walking, April has been trying to reach him). The others manage to fend off giant rats, whilst Don and April snap him back into reality. Don further convinced his mutant appearance is the main barrier to April liking him. Episode ends with Don finding Timothy's family, passing them a note 'from him' to say he'll be home soon.

6: Leo receives a message from Karai to say she has been captured by the EPF and needs help. He is determined to rescue her, but Raph warns him not to rush in without help. Don is still ridden with cold and Mikey (whose had the most physical contact with Don since ep 4) is also feeling unwell. Casey brought in to help instead, and Leo has a plan - contacts Muckman to help. Between them, with background support from Mikey/Don they manage to get Karai out, but Leo is confronted by a bounty hunter called Savage. Karai brought back to the lair safe, but they then realise their existence has been found on camera and leaked to Brody whose reported it as an attack on a govt facility.

7: Don's cold is still bothering him and getting worse. Leo getting concerned, but Mikey seems to be better. Raph says the big baby will get over it. As Don works on the retromutagen he takes a break and goes outside and vanishes. Turtles receive word of a monster turtle nicknamed 'Tokka' by the press attacking the city. Casey is directly hunted down and attacked by it. They realise its Don. Don's randomly mutating into a monstrous turtle, and the monstrous side is getting more frequent. The others manage to bring him to the lair and try to help, April also tries to calm him. B+R take advantage of the chaos to spread some of their own, forcing the turtles to stop them as Don tries to finish the retromutagen to heal himself. He starts to mutate again, and accidentally destroys most of the retromutagen. He has 1 dose left and decides to use it on Timothy. Fearful for April and Casey he flees the lair as his mutation seems to finalise into the 'Tokka' form.

8: 'Tokka' going on rampage but using sewers to evade the EPF. Brody having a field day with the 'scale of the mutant threat' though Pulveriser takes over the report with one defending the mutants. Casey being told by his father to observe just how dangerous the mutants really are. He deliberately starts manipulating Casey to believing he cant trust the turtles any more than any other mutant. Back at lair, Leo and Raph arguing over what to do. Leo says they need help and should get Rockwell, Raph wants to find Don and slap some sense into him. After April decides to go find Don, Raph just leaves - challenging Leo to stop him. Mutanimals face down Tokka but lose badly. B+R sent to hunt down Tokka as well to recruit him for Hun. Raph meets up with Slash and Casey and they agree to go awol from their respective teams to find Tokka. Raph starts to believe Donnie is 'for all intents and purposes' gone and only Tokka remains but he is clearly very upset and blames himself for not seeing it sooner. April finds Tokka in the sewers and manages to calm him, but Raph finds them too. April tries to stand between them, but B+R interrupt and Tokka goes back into a rampage and escapes into the sewers. April is hurt by a rockfall and brought back to lair by Raph/Casey. In meantime Leo and Mikey talk with Rockwell to figure out what happened to Donnie. Rockwell isn't sure but thinks there is some kind of mutagenic virus involved. Mikey is apparently immune because of his previous contact with some kind of retromutagen (Shellacne). He promises to look into it.

9: EPF initiate a mutant crackdown following the Tokka incident. Savage told to capture the creature by Bishop under orders of 'Queen'. Bishop revealed to be Casey's dad, when Casey talks to his father about his concern for April after what happened to her. Bishop tells him its time he told him where the Turtles are, for April's safety as much as Casey's. Raph still awol and tracks Tokka to docks, where Fishface, Tigerclaw and Hun are trying to talk with him. EPF interrupt and Hun's crew escape as Tokka is captured. Raph wonders if he should go back to team up with Leo, but decides he's better off on his own. In meantime Leo meets with Karai as they observe the 'crackdown' in action, fearing its just an excuse to put city under martial law. She warns Leo he might have to choose a side soon if things get much worse. Mikey and Leo are then tricked by Casey into being captured, Casey congratulated by his father, but he feels terrible. Mikey manages to free himself and Leo with Casey's help, and they escape the compound even as Raph is trying to break in. Raph warns them the EPF have Donnie, but they haven't got time or chance to get him and have to flee.
Donnie wakes up in cell, mostly back to himself and is introduced to Bishop and Bishop's boss, the EPF 'Queen' who turns out to be April's mother. They thank him for his assistance so far in starting a panic and start demanding he hands over the secrets of the retromutagen. He refuses, realising they are intending to use mutagen to create mutant soldiers. 'Then you will be our guest for a very long time...'

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I could literally carry on for the entire season but I'll be good and let someone else have a go :)

I expect if the mind control arc continues, Shredder would want to use it on Leo or Don.

But if we're talking a whole season... Multiverse and Crossovers! Will never happen but whatever... One Piece! (Only 2d option, I promise) Book of Life for the Day of the Dead/Halloween arc (how cool would it be to see the tmnt as those wooden figures?) The (presumably) shared universe of GLTAS and Beware the Batman as Blackest Night falls and we see lantern tmnt! And finally, the turtles are welcomed into Night Vale!

Guys, I'm really enjoying your ideas so far, especially expanding Good Genes as if it were actually part of the series, so hats off to Tarris and victoryangel.

As for Fast Forward, I'm still a little skeptical but the concept was cool at the time. Perhaps a little more work on it and I've got no problem with it. Then again, I'm all for new interpretations. Keep working on it unworthytinker, it seems cool to me right now. :)

Now, I have been trying to expand my idea of Turtles in Time more, and this is what I have so far. It'll be the Foot Clan as the primary villains and 26 episodes. The story arcs as of this time are as follows:

Turtles in Time (episodes 1 and 2) (sets up the storyline)

Days of Future Past (episodes 3-5) (past and future are both visited)

Duel of Dimension X (episodes 6-9) (obvious name is obvious)

Teenage Alien Ninja Aliens (episodes 10-13) (name reference to what they were suppose to be in the 2014 film, being set in space.)

Project: Doomsday (episodes 18-22) (An alternate reality of New York City like Same As It Never Was with Shredder in control.)

Legacy/Final Issue (episodes 23-26) (ancient Japan along with nods to each part of the franchise, along with the entire storyline)

I still need to think of a storyline and location for episodes 14-17 though.

As for villains:

Shredder (entirety, primarily the first two episodes and the Legacy arc)
Lord Dregg (Space arc and secondary antagonist)

Triceratons (Dimension X arc)

Dark Turtles/Super Turtles (mind-controlled Turtles that later become Shellectro, Graviturtle, Griddex, and Blobboid. Main villains of the Doomsday arc)

Alternate-reality Mighty Mutanimals (All members except Pigeon Pete are mind-controlled and are additions to the Foot Clan’s army. Mondo Gecko replaces Pete and Malachi is added to the roster too. Secondary villains of the Doomsday arc.)

Would anyone like to see the Super Turtles as villains this time as well as the Mutanimals as mind-controlled soldiers? Generally curious before I continue to add more to the thread.

Thanks for the shout out.

I know Donnie wanting his brothers to kill him is somewhat out of character. But I don't see Donnie honestly wanting to lose himself in the form of a mindless monster, and yes I can see him asking his family to grant him that mercy if there was absolutely no hope of his being able to be cured.

Also if played right it can parallel the what is currently going on with Karai as a mutant snake.

(Insert Fonzie's ayyy here. Sorry, I can't post pictures still or videos)

An illness I can see affecting anyone's personality either way, making them more worn out or easily angered. In the case of Donatello, it does work out when written thoroughly. I can see them assisting Donnie but then battling him if the mutation gets out of control. If executed properly in a season (if it does come to be that is) or done with how you and Tarris have written it thus far, I can see Good Genes as a main story arc for the show somehow. Again, crossing my fingers on it. (With what my science teacher has said with sending scripts to the creators, it would be radical to see done by US)

As for Karai, I honestly hope something like that occurs in the show or something emotional. To deter away from this thread for a quick moment, I just want a strong ending to this triangle of her with Shredder and Splinter, it's repetitious by now with "Who is going to own Karai next?" Either cure her (keeping mutation or not) and bring her back home, cause her to lose control and leave both sides for good (possibly Mighty Mutanimals teamup?) just something noteworthy.

I do like the concept of Viral and the Dark Turtles so far. It does feel generally confusing for me a little, but if you were up late it's understandable. :tlol:

Either way, though I consider Fast Forward one of the weakest aspects of the franchise and the 2003 cartoon, I feel the missed potential could be much more fully realized by everyone here. Like I said before, we all have great imagination to put to use. Keep it up amica. :)

I think any season for TMNT which is towards the mid or end of the show's life should aim to find a way to separate the characters - either into individuals or pairs.
Generally to achieve this requires either a major upheaval (such as losing a major battle and being scattered/captured) or having a big falling out among the characters - or a bit of both. That immediately provides a lot of room for conflict and development of stories and character depth.

By splitting up characters, it makes it easier to focus the stories on each individual - Raph could become the lone vigilante, Mikey could become stranded in the woods and forced to mature, Donatello might be trapped in Dimension X, Leo exiled to the wilds for training, etc, etc. The show can touch on the other characters to keep tabs, but generally its always a strong focus on 1 character.

Towards the end of the season it makes it more meaningful when those characters start to come back together again.

So long as the writers can achieve something like that I think it'll be fine. The setting and exact circumstances dont have to matter so much - there's a lot of options to work with from existing TMNT lore.

I am tempted to try a mini synopsis for a turtles in time season though :)

If it means we see more of the character growing, I have no problem with the brothers going on individual routes like Leo did with the 2003 cartoon. Really strong point on it Tarris, it would give significant meaning.

As for a Turtles in Time arc, feel free to ask me to help, I've gotten one story arc ready, which is 4 episodes titled Legacy. It was originally supposed to be an idea I had for ending the series, but I do want to expand it with the other arcs and locations I mentioned earlier on the thread. Here is Legacy:

Episode 23: Legacy, part 1
Narrowly escaping the alternate universe, the Turtles are now knowledged of a doomsday device that will doom all reality. Returning to New York, they head to Shredder’s lair in an attempt to shut the device down and defeat the Foot Clan permanently before complications arise.

The penultimate story arc will take place in an alternate universe of New York, similar to Same As It Never Was.

Episode 24: Legacy, part 2
Landing in the middle of ancient Japan, the Turtles find that this was the start of the conflict. Continuing their pursuit of Shredder, they must work with Hamato Yoshi (Splinter’s human self) and Tang Shen to rescue captive members of the Hamato Clan from a dangerous Japanese warlord and prevent the destruction of their existence.

This idea is based primarily on bringing up the origins and TMNT 3 together. The warlord Norinanga (however you spell it) is the warlord too.

Episode 25: Legacy, part 3
Leaving off from last time, the Turtles continue their final battle with the Shredder above on the rooftops before being brought to Renet’s homeworld. Their overconfidence will prove to be their fatal mistake, leading to a major rebirth that’ll doom all those around them.

Essentially a set up for the finale part and being a little more goofy with an area of all parts of the franchise to boot in it!

Episode 26: Legacy, part 4
The seemingly dead Shredder has returned, injuring Casey, Splinter, and April as well as kidnapping Karai. In addition, the highly dangerous weapon has been composed by the controlled Baxter Stockman which will doom all of humanity. With their backs on the wall, the Turtles must brave their way back to Shredder’s lair and end the nightmare once and for all, or else risk the living of all around them...

I did mention this on the Turtle Torture thread, but I'll keep my spoilers away.

Other episode title names I have at this time are the two part starter named "Turtles in Time" and the entirety of an entire outer space arc with Lord Dregg. Those names are "Go! Go! Alien Turtles!" (PR FTW), "Turtle Trek" and "The Hyperstone Heist".

Dimension X, the past, future, and one other location I need to learn of.

Maybe the Turtles separating is something like Leo's training journey in the 2007 film. Each of the turtles are sent on a separate journey.

Before they leave Donnie hands his brothers a note book so they can keep a journal of their progress. They can't bring their Leo journey's to the jungles of south america. Donnie goes to a rural forest in Japan. And Mikey would be sent to a rain forest in china. Raph is the only one who will stay in New York.

Raph is confused as to why he was the only one left behind while his brothers get to see the world. Splinter tells him that journeys come in all forms and part of his journey is to stay home.

As the year passes they do get monthly letters from the others about how their journey's going. However after a month or so Donnie's letters seem to stop coming. No one thinks any thing of it at first as it they think that maybe he hasn't been able to write. April contacts Leo with her T-phone just to be sure and Leo tells he hasn't heard from Donnie lately...he assumed that perhaps they were out of range. Mikey hasn't heard from Donnie either, and he's worried that their brother may have wandered into Aokigahara (a Japanese forest that is historically associated with Japanese Demons and a popular place for suicides)

April gets the feeling something is wrong...but she doesn't believe Donnie is dead. She tries contacting Donnie's phone and gets his voice mail message.
April: Hey Donnie it's me April, we haven't heard from you in a while....can...can you call me back when you get this.

As April leaves the voice message we pan out on Donnie's T-Phone and belongings which are just left in the middle of nowhere. and there are signs the Shredder's goons such as Tiger Claw has been there as well.

I consider myself a big guy

I won't speak for all Raph fans but I know I wouldn't mind seeing that. Maybe give him an episode all to himself where he tracks down Baxter and kicks lots of ass along the way.8)

Main Arc: Quest for the Mutastones

Villains: Ch'rell (now under an Oroku Nagi disguise (his identity is not revealed until midway through) and takes over from Shredder temporarily), Mutagen Man

Sub-Plots: The Search For Irma, Foot Clan Divided, Retromutagen Convoy

Srsly? U dont kno the meaning of big guy

Nobunaga ;)
I always shudder when series start using established historical figures :) For me at least, it always felt uncomfortable because it cant get around the can of worms of disrupting historical accuracy or doing daft things with famous people. Bill and Teds Excellent adventure drives me nuts for exactly this reason.

It works a lot better I think, if they use a character of their own creation within that setting. So - in this example -lets call this warlord Norinaga and have him just be a generic warlord to act as a villain - then you can literally do whatever you want with him within the story :)

So a Time arc would involve

Alternate present/near present setting
Past (Feudal Japan)
Future
And presumably the 'real present'?


I dont know if you guys remember a show called Sliders? It was all about parallel dimensions and alternate realities. Later seasons dealt with the idea of one reality invading the others to create an Empire. That might be an interesting idea to adopt to introduce Dregg or the Triceratons as a villain (or even reintroduce the Kraang), and have characters like Jhana, Renet, Mona Lisa, Fugitoid or the Neutrinos appear as fugitives fleeing from an invaded reality.
As the Kraang were already more or less doing this, it could easily be incorporated that this 'interdimensional rebellion' realised the Turtles defeated the Kraang and come to Earth to ask for their help.

Newtralizer also describes the Kraang as 'the most treacherous creatures in all 10 dimensions' which also gives an indication of at least 8 other dimensions to play around with even in the current iteration.


If Renet were to appear say ep 1-2, show a turtle a possible future where Earth is enslaved by Shredder/Dregg/Triceratons. She could explain to stop it happening they have already missed their chance, and must go back in time to stop something happening (say stop the construction of the Kuro Kabuto).
I forget the guys name, but Shredder mentions the founder of the foot clan in Legend of the Kuro Kabuto, he could easily be a villain for a few episodes (and it could be implied that the Turtles interference with the early Foot clan is what starts the whole Hamato/Foot feud)

They could then come back to the 'present' to find something has gone wrong, and they are trapped in another dimension or the future and have to figure out a way back.

Eventually they work their way back to liberate an enslaved present or defend it from impending invasion as the finale.

A turtles in time plot the way I would vision it would be similar to the Turtles in Time IDW story line.

The Turtles have already met Renet and fought Savantei Ramero. The turtles are hanging out at lair when Renet arrives. Mikey is glad to see her as he had become smitten with her the moment he met her.

Raph is annoyed by this and demands to know why she's here because whenever she shows up trouble is not far behind.

Renet tells them that there is a journey they need to take. She can't tell them where they are going or what they have to learn because the time staff has a mind of it's own. As she says this the time staff glows and they are all hurtled through time.

The first six episodes would focus on Mikey (IDW this part focuses on Raph). The Turtles find themselves in the time of the Dinosaurs. (Renet appears to them at times but her voice keeps fading in and out) Probably witnessing the Kraang beginning their plans to turn the Earth into Dimension X and mutating monkeys so they start evolving into humans.

Next part they arrive in ancient japan (Leo centered story line) Turtles unintentionally start the feud between the Hamato Clan and the Foot. Either that or they see the Foot Clan being attacked by the Hamato Clan. They see Splinter's father find infant Oroku Saki. They all know what sort of monster Oroku Saki grows up to be and thinks if he's destroyed now, Splinter can live with his wife and child and never have to be a rat. But Leo counters that yes that child grows to be their greatest enemy, but without him...they wouldn't exist.

Next part centered on Raph, (This is centered on Mikey in the IDW) This could either be set around the war of Trafalgar or world war 2.

Through out these journey's Renet sporadically appears to them but her voice fades in an out.

Finally they arrive in a future version of New York. The turtles at first ready themselves for anything, but soon find that majority of the population are mutants and they aren't paying them any mind. They do see signs telling them to Obay the Shredder and Foot Insignia everywhere. Also the city has been renamed "Foot Island" While they are walking Renet appears to them once again, but this time she is able to fully talk to them.

A mob of bounty hunters sees them and thinks they are resistance. The Turtles run for it when they see a cloaked person waving to them and telling them to follow him if they want to live. They follow him and they find themselves in what they recognize as the lair. Leo thanks the cloaked person for helping them before asking who they were.

Cloaked person: The more accurate question should be "Who was I?"

Renet tells them they really shouldn't be encountering one another. The cloaked person is turns out to to be an elderly version of Donatello. Mikey looks around and asks where the older versions of the rest of them are. Future Don goes quiet... moment before glancing at the place where Splinter had the shrine to his wife and daughter. Three ninja masks (one blue, one red, and one orange), Casey's hocky mask and April's fan are there implying the others are dead.

At the end of the arc, Donnie tells his future-self that he has a hard time accepting this will be his future. Future Don however tells him that the future is hypothetical and can still be rewritten. Then the final part of the episode after they've returned home, Donnie needs to spend some time alone. Raph finds him looking at his mask and asks if anything is bothering him. Donnie sighs and says that he was just thinking about what his future self had told him. He then says while his futureself didn't say it in words...it was clear that the others all died because of something he did or didn't do. The others reassure him that whatever happened...he never gave up fighting for their sake. And they don't want him to give up now because of something that may or may not happen in the future.

The 1st half would be similar 2 the glimpse of the future idea I posted in the turtle torture thread, the 2nd half would be a good genes story branching off from that

Ep 1-2 - arriving in the future/fighting against dark shadow soldiers/Leo getting poisoned

Ep 3-8 - find out about wats going on/meet a few groups of resistance/try 2 find a cure 4 the poison/fight off dark shadow soldiers

Ep 9 - mikey helps w raiding some convoys 4 supplies/Donnie continues 2 try and find a cure 4 the poison despite wat the resistance groups say

Ep 10 - Donnie and mikey help a free world resist becoming part of the dark shadows empire but fail

Ep 11 - Leos condition continues 2 decline so Don decides 2 take Leo w him 2 get the cure from the dark shadow where Don learns about the dark shadows true identity, reasons, and a few secrets

Ep 12 - Don narrowly escapes raphs fortress w Leo despite Leos deteriorating condition

Ep 13 - Unable 2 find a cure 4 the poison and no other options, renet takes Donnie and mikey back 2 prevent Leo from getting poisoned

Ep 14 - After saving Leo from his grim fate, mikey and Donnie fill in Leo about wat happened 2 him and during the time he was poisoned, Don then goes on explaining about how the dark shadow turned out 2 be raph and how karai was there and how a near death event changed him

Ep 15-16 - deciding on seeing wat happened that caused raph 2 change in2 dark shadow, they attempt 2 find out when it happened/After finding out when it happened and trailing raph 2 a abandoned kraang lab containing experimental chemicals, raph(under the mind control again) spots them, during the fight in the lab, the security system is triggered and a laser beam hit 3 of the containers, causing them 2 explode, Leo tries pushing raph out of the way but both were caught in the blast, getting badly burned in the process, Donnie has renet send them back 2 their own timetime, after they get back 2 the lair, Leos burns heal almost instantly

Ep 17 - Still determined 2 help raph and stop the future they saw from happening, they ask Rockwell 4 help in freeing raph, after a bit of reminding raph of childhood memories, they free raph and escape, l8r while they r relaxing, Don is checking out Leos health 4 any sign of the burns and glances at his computer, when a tiny amount of shadowy smoke rises from Leos fingers

Ep 18 - they decide 2 spend some time at the farmhouse after the events that happened, while there, the chimera shows up near the farmhouse, during the fight, Leo notices dark smoke around his hand and decides 2 use that 2 his advantage, afterwards he tells Donnie about it, that night while sleeping, his skin briefly turns black

Ep 19 - Donnie is still going through a lot thinking back on how raph was in that future and all the stuff he did but stops thinking on it when Leo has them go hiking, while mikey was wandering off the trail some, he ends up falling in2 a hidden cave system and twists his ankle which Donnie forces him 4 stay put while they get some rope, while waiting on Donnie 2 bring the rope, black mist starts pouring out of his arms and covering the ground, raph notices while Leo starts panicking some but it stops just as randomly, soon after Donnie gets back and after getting mikey out, they head back though raph keeps a close eye on Leo, that night while sitting around the campfire, raph starts asking questions about wat happened but be4 he has a chance 2, Leos skin turns black off and on 4 a few min then he doubles over and collapses on2 the fire, they quickly pull him up and r surprised he didn't get burned

Ep 20 - the next morning, they check on Leo and find him feverish, not waking up, and his arms r entirely black, at the sight, Donnie gasps no and mikey buries his head in2 Donnie, which makes raph curious and demands 2 know wats going on, Donnie sits down on Leos bed w mikey still on his shoulder and insists that raph sit down be4 he goes on telling about the future they saw, his alternate self, Leo getting poisoned and the events at the lab, then states how Leo looked when he was poisoned and now is identical except 4 the entry point, Donnie then says that he thought if they could stop Leo from getting poisoned then he would live but reminds himself that the burns were so severe that they shouldn't have healed as fast as they did and starts sniffling, after hearing everything that happened and that Leo risked his life 4 raphs future self, raph gets up and kneels beside the bed, putting a hand on Donnie and mikey, 2gether, they vow 2 help Leo get better

Ep 21 - Leo still hasn't woken up so they decide on returning 2 the city after carefully moving him 2 the party wagon, on the way, Leos skin occasionally turns black be4 fading again in most spots, little did they know that on the outskirts of the city, bishops men were looking 4 them

Ep 22 - they made it back 2 the lair w/out being spotted, once there, Donnie was doing some tests on Leo in his lab and was finishing when Leo woke up, Don excitedly called 4 raph and mikey just be4 noticing the shadows that were surrounding Leos hands, Don took a nervous gulp be4 having raph and mikey hurry up although it was 2 late, Leo effortlessly encased Don in shadows and pinned him 2 the wall, mikey and and raph saw but were unable 2 stop Leo from escaping, as Donnie dropped 2 the floor, all raph could do was stare as he asked if wat he did was any worse which he felt bad 4 Donnie after hearing ooo yeah, 25x worse

Ep 23 - After Leo took off, it took awhile 2 find him and after sending mikey after Rockwell, they managed 2 find him though be4 they had a chance 2 keep Leo from pulling shadow clouds, bishops men find them and catch Leo

Ep 24-25 - despite not being able 2 find where Leo was taken, Donnie and Rockwell tested the chemicals that Leo got burned w and after snatching a sample of the improved mind control serum and adding in wat Donnie learned from wat raph aka dark shadow told him, they determined that the serum added a lvl of mental stability 2 the chemicals that made them like living shadows though in reverse order there was no guarantee on the same effect so after long debate, they finally made a derivative of the serum that excluded the mind control so it would only return Leos state of mind, at that same time though it took much effort, Leo managed 2 escape bishops forces

Ep 26 - 2 wks going by w/out finding any sign of leo, they spot a few of bishops men and follow them 2 a alley, where leo is surrounded by gov agents, they jump in and help when leo, now unable 2 see and solely relying on the heat sources, pins raph and all the agents 2 the buildings and about 2 crush their lungs when mikey shouts 4 leo 2 stop, surprised Leo hesitated but wasnt really able 2 pinpoint the direction, just the warm energy around him, after a min of silence, Leo asked if mikey was there, which mikey grinned big at, after a moment of silence following the burst of warmth, Leo said that bishops men did something 2 him that helped clear his head but since then, all he could see was thick grey clouds, Donnie sighed in relief at Leos mind being clear so that the derivative wouldn't have 2 be used and insisted that once Leo dropped raph, they could see wat could be done about the sight issue which, after leo figured out where raph was(w some help from donnie and mikey), he immediately released raph be4 crushing the agents that he had in his grip, however after looking in2 leos eyes and seeing them almost glassy and distant, he stated that it wouldn't be easy which caused fear 2 wrap around leos heart while unintentionally, his chest was covered in a dark cloud

The 1st 5 eps of the next season focus on restoring Leos vision