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If you could make a season for the Nick show...
It's becoming increasingly clear to me that we all have ideas for this show and quite a bit of them might not be done. Viewing the suggestions thread and reading other stories has inspired me to make my own what-if season. In addition, I'm just tired of the arguments on certain threads, so I wish to dedicate a thread for a full on season created by you all.
So, feel free to talk about what your idea for a what-if season for the Nick show. It can be whatever you wish and also can put forth whoever you want in the spotlight. Just don't bash other ideas, any idea can happen with "Pure Imagination" I ask for only a few requirements: 1. Who the primary villain is (The Foot Clan, the Kraang, an underused character, or any new character/old character to debut) 2. How many episodes would it last (include what they'd be about if you have something planned too, I'd be happy to hear it) 3. Are there any main story arcs you have in mind? (ex: the triangle of Shredder, Karai, and Splinter) Apologies with starting another thread, but I am curious to see the imagination of the community.
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I guess I'd go with a slightly watered down (pun not intended) version of the Future Turtles' stories from the Archie comics.
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If he's still alive, Rat King would be a great antagonist for a season. Otherwise I'd go with the Foot and have a season based on "City at War".
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Assuming this is following from Season 3? I guess focusing on Bishop, the EPF and the manipulations of the Rat King, with some gentle focus given to Baxter growing into a more dangerous threat long term.
The current style of 20 episodes seems to work well for length, but for me the critical thing is story arcs. I love having extended stories developed over several episodes, even if its just very slight nudging or foreshadowed mentions in otherwise 'Filler' eps. Again, assuming this was a season 4 thing - at least one story arc for each of the Turtles - interlinking with each other and tidying up some of the ideas seemingly abandoned or half baked in previous seasons - Raph's rivalry with Fishface brewing into more personal attacks, his friendship with Slash being sorely tested, or developing his friendship with Casey. Potentially picking up the mind control as a 'foreshadow' of him actually willingly turning evil (or turning against the Turtles - similar to Slash perhaps? Leaving to become a lone vigilante and becoming a rival?) Mikey's growth from childlike naivety to becoming more adult, developing his role as the groups emotional anchor by giving him a reason to need their emotional support and not him providing it. Maybe revisiting his rivalry with Bradford by allowing Mikey a chance to reconcile with Rahzar? Donatello finally concluding the love arc with the consequences of whatever result it has (lets go with heartbreak as the example and dealing with that). Resolving the Timothy story, possibly with a need to sacrifice something precious to him (choosing between Timothy's survival and April's friendship?). Developing his relationship with the Rat King (as the Rat King seems to have slightly more knowledge of Don's mind than the others). Putting him in a situation where he refuses to fight and examining his reluctance to fight. Leo being shown that leadership can have a darker side and dealing with the temptations of power. Loosing Karai and dealing with failure/heartbreak (perhaps as a parallel to Don). Another team member being injured and Leo's response to his failure to lead them safely? Regardless of what you do, every character should have their beliefs challenged or tested in some way and at least one of their relationships with another character examined in detail. There should be at least two major fallouts or tragedies to deal with and a solid insidious threat from a well rounded villain. Not asking much |
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A whole season? I doubt I could plot a whole season, but I'd totally put in the "Dale Evans McGuillicutty" story arch from Vol 1 Mirage.
I think it would work really well with this sort of campy, yet clever, version of the turtles. Then on a more somber note, I'd probably give "The River" a try. From the OT I'd love to see "Incredible Shrinking Turtles" and "Cufflink Caper." And for no reason, no reason what so ever, I'd have these new guys make a run through the big turtle stand off from "Turtle's Forever." Never explain it, or reference again. Just because.
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I really do agree that character arcs would be a great addition, especially with the maturing and struggles of the brothers. As for villains, seeing Bishop as a villain in a what-if scenario like this would be fun as well as the return of Rat King and growth of Baxter. Give the two latter a big pay off and satisfying defeat too. These points I agree with and I can see you are really good at character arcs, feel free to continue sharing when you can.
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I'd make a very mystical fantasy oriented season, for sure.
Big ass time travel arc that makes reference to Turtles In Time, the third film, Archie's future, various Mirage tales, OT episodes, just put all past TMNT time travel & dimension hopping stuff together into one big thing & of course add new stuff along the way. While Mirage & 4kids have always tied this theme to Savanti Romero, I'd probably give his role to someone else, be it a new character or one from the past. Choate would be a cool one to put in play, if it were brought on by a villain, but if it were more of a mishap than a matter of trying to get the turtles killed, I'd like to see Cudley The Cowlick & Dale Evans McGuillitcutty caught up in it. Dunno what the motive behind their trip would be, but I'd like it to feel more fun than tense. Perhaps April was messing with her powers & accidentally blasted herself across time & the turtles have to track her down by following her ever on the move particle trail or something. You could go in a lot of different directions with it. I'd want to explore spirituality & magic, too. Get the turtles meditating, visiting the astral plane, learning how to use chi & whatnot. Bring Dragonlord into it. Have Rat King's ghost visiting Splinter like in Mirage, but also checking in with Dragonlord. He's a fencewalker, playing both sides for laughs in the afterlife. Send the turtles to China to learn how to do some ancient technique tying into their out of body experiences & have them run into Vam Mi & her goons along the way. I'd like Hot-head to help them defeat Dragonlord. I also really want a mafia war. Rival mob factions. Big Louie, Don Turtelli, Mad Dog Mcmutt, Wally "The Beaver" Cleaver, you name 'em. Dunno that they'd have a place in the same season at those other concepts, but it's a want nonetheless. I'd also like there to be one episode for each turtle, focusing on something they're dealing with in their own head. A little development. Oh, & a slice of life styled episode or two. No villain, no drama, just some downtime for the boys. Maybe they try to spend a day being average teenagers, sneaking into a movie & whatnot. Struggling to enjoy it due to the whole need for stealth thing.
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Archie's World Tour, introducing other Mutanimals, building up Null, maybe leading to interactions with Future Don and Raph.
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I actually asked Ciro this question when we interviewed him on the Shellshocked Podcast, though he said it'd be too hard to do that in CGI.
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Assuming if Next Mutation can be used by the creators, Dragonlord could be a new antagonist alongside Dregg. Combine that with a story involving both the Tribunal saga and Vision Quest and I'd love to see this idea come to life. As for spirits, I'd personally love a ghost filler episode, but I can see the afterlife as an idea rarely seen in the shows. Perhaps alongside superpowers? (Getting ahead of myself) I wouldn't be surprised by a gang war approaching in the series as a finale or arc, it seems to be a route that could be taken and is my biggest hope for the season 3 finale involving the mind control arc. The time travel arc would be what I desire the most as a what-if, I already have an idea ready for a plot and planned most of the locations. I would like it to have Shredder as the main villain and have it be a conclusion to the series, but utilize elements from every part of the franchise. Locations are: -New York City (obviously) -Ancient Japan (tie to the origins with the live-action trilogy too) -Dimension X (Triceratons fighting) -Outer Space (Lord Dregg searching for the Hyperstone -Alternate reality (the Turtles are brainwashed working for the Foot Clan and later become the Super Turtles, but as villains. Mighty Mutanimals sans Pete are also soldiers for the Foot Clan) This is what I have so far and will make it in the style of the 26 episodes. Again, really nice ideas.
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I really like the idea of the turtles being in a different environment like the Northampton arc but my mini season wouldn't be smack dab in the middle of another arc.
What I would do is have them go to sea to where the technodrome was sank and they meet and fought ghost pirate ships along the way and other sea mutants that were created due a mutagen leakage from the technodrome. The group end up getting marooned on a desert island but they discovered that it has a secret government facility with recovered kraang technology. Turtles have to find a way to get the tech so that it doesn't fall in the wrong hands all while trying to find a way to get off the island.
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I could see that happening for an arc or at least have it where the Rat King mutates one of the Turtles/ Casey into a Mutant Rat and the Turtles attempts to cure him. It'd have even more of an emotional impact if it was Donnie that was mutated.
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I'd have maybe take an arc story from one series and expand upon it.
For Example, lets take the Good Genes arc It's largely a three story arc. Technically it's longer then that though, so if the cards are played right it could last at least half a season if not more. The basic plot is Donnie becomes sick with a cold after being stung by a mutation carrying mutant insect. He turns into a monster and is slowly losing himself to his mutation. In a desperate attempt to save their brother they go to Bishop. Bishop lies to them and informs the Turtles that he would cure their brother, but they have to get something from the Foot Clan for him. Fortunately leather head is able to create a cure from looking at Stockman's attempts. For example the season could begin with an unexplained mutant outbreak in the city. The Turtles are dealing with it and wondering if the Kraang are back. While dealing with the mutant outbreak Donnie gets scratched by one of the mutants but they don't think anything of it. Donnie studies one the outbreak mutants and finds that the mutagen that mutated it was man made. Scene shifts to Bishop who is overseeing some whitish ooze that is being pumped into the sewers. Episode 2 Next episode deals with the turtles trying to deal with the outbreak mutants and trying to find the source of the outbreak before Shredder finds out about it. Shredder however also sees an advantage in this outbreak and wants every mutant creature rounded up and captured. episode 3 Next episode the Mutanimals help out with the out break. It is discovered that a human has been added it the list of mutants, the said mutant is reported and contained by a man working for Bishop named Dirk Savage. Dirk also gives Bishop footage of the Turtles. episode 4 Next Episode The Turtles are trying to succeed in securing more outbreak mutants and learn the Shredder is doing the same. The mutanimals are captured by Dirk Savage. Episode 5 Next episode Donnie starts developing cold like symptoms. Episode focuses on April and Casey. Episode 6 Next episode, Turtles try to contact Mutanimals with no luck. Concerned over what has happened to them, focus on Leo. Donnie's illness becomes worse. Episode 7 During a mission, Turtles are captured by Dirk Savage and brought to Bishop. All of them are placed in separate cells. Leo is placed in between Rockwell and Mikey, Donnie is placed across from Raph. Raph is next door to Pigeon Pete. Leather head and Slash are on either side of Donnie. Both Slash and Leatherhead have been experimented on which causes them to go into fugue states. They learn that Bishop is the person who created the outbreak mutagen. The reason for it is because after the Kraang got the jump on the EPF and mind controlled everyone who was sent to New York, the government wanted to pull the plug on their organization. The outbreak was only to be used as a means of keeping funding going. Unfortunately the spread went faster then anticipated. Donnie's cell is opened and two EPF guards start to drag Donnie way for experimentation. Raph tells the Bishop to do experiments on him instead. Bishop however ignores this which causes Slash to go into a fugue state as he attempts to break out of his cell. April, Casey, and Splinter arrive and save everyone. Slash tells everyone to get out of the building, he was going to save their brother. When the building explodes everyone is worried that Slash and Donnie didn't make it until they see Slash walk out cradling a weak and feverish Donnie in his arms. Episode 8 Next episode Donnie is sick in bed. Focus on Raph, Casey, and Slash. Episode 9 Next episode focus on Mikey. Mikey is worried about Donnie's illness and feels something is off about his brother. Rockwell and April are also concerned that this may not be a typical case of the flu. Episode 10 and 11 Next Episode Mid-Season Finally. Turtles are going out to scout out what Shredder is doing with the outbreak mutants. April, Casey, and Splinter are staying behind to look after Donnie. When Splinter, April, and Casey are in another room conversing while Donnie is asleep, Donnie's eyes open and glow red before he screams. Casey contacts Raph with his distress signal. Everyone returns to the lair and find it trashed, and a shaken Casey trying to comfort a distressed April and Splinter. The three of them tell the other Turtles that Donnie transformed into some freaking looking monster before racing out of the lair. Turtle contact the mutanimals, Rockwell examines the bandages Donnie had been wearing and the tells that the other Turtles that some of bishops mutagen had entered Donnie's blood stream and that it was at war with his already mutated DNA. It was possible the illness was a catalyst for the transformation process to take place. Rockwell then shows a large containment unit and says he that he built that with Donatello as a means of capturing and studying larger mutations. He never thought that it would have to be used on Donatello. Leo tells everyone that they have no time to waste, they need to find Donnie before Shredder does. Last edited by victory_angel; 05-05-2015 at 07:50 PM. |
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1. Who the primary villain is (The Foot Clan, the Kraang, an underused character, or any new character/old character to debut)
2. How many episodes would it last (include what they'd be about if you have something planned too, I'd be happy to hear it) 22-25 episodes. 3. Are there any main story arcs you have in mind? (ex: the triangle of Shredder, Karai, and Splinter) Exploring each of the boys life challenges in more depth, their hard choices and the repercussion of those choices that leads to the climax of the season's finale. |
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Post Season 4
-Turtles defeat Shredder, Armaggon, whoever and are resting. 1 episode of them just bonding and discussing things. -Renet out of nowhere, saying that time itself is being threatened by Savanti and Armaggon. -Turtles in time for 8 episodes -Turtles find a city without crime and split up -Raph into the mountains, Leo into the jungles of africa, Donatello moves out to Californa to start a buisness, Mikey stays with Splinter. -April and Casey go off to college, they see a professor working on a sample of mutagen. He mutates a cat that night and preforms experiments on it. -While in California, Donnie comes into competition with H-Tech industries, run by Harold. -Raph encounters the legendary Yeti, finding out it is an intelligent mutant created thousands of years ago. He befriends the mutant. -Leo becomes a local legend and takes down a slave empire run by a Giraffe mutant with the help of Doctor El. -Mikey and Splinter face off agains the 7 spirits, one of which was Speed Demon, who wasn't a mutant. -Old Hob starts his gang and is fought by the mutanimals, Mikey, and Splinter. -Hob and Slash start a friendship after the fight. -Mutanimals captured by the EPF, now run by Agent Jane Stars. -Hob apologizes to Mikey and Splinter after his gang breaks up. -Break in mission to save Mutanimals -Leatherhead dies of old age. Pete sacrifices himself. -Funeral, all attend. -Mikey, Splinter, Hob, Slash, and Dr. Rockwell have formed a team and fight crime. -Mole people/mutants from underground threaten NYC. -Leo has a spiritual encounter and returns home. No more ideas yet |
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If Season 4 is supposed to be returning to Dimension X, I would have the finale be a take on IDW #44.
And it could be played out almost exactly the same as the comic. That's the perfect cliffhanger for a season. |
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A mix of 4kids and Archie elements.
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The team is greatly effected by Donatello's absence in many cases, but the greatest of all is Splinter, Casey, and April aside...All the turtles really have is each other, and if one of them is gone it hurts the team. Donnie is the one who balances out the team and without him being a second calm presence Raph and Leo would have killed each other long ago. So with Raph...he doesn't care who he has to hurt...but he would be a time bomb ready to go off and if Donnie was lost he would want to go take out as Bishop, Savage, and anyone else he felt should suffer for the loss of Donnie. Mikey would barely be able to keep himself together. I found his reaction during Good Genes the most heartbreaking as he's shown kneeling on the floor looking up at this thing that used to be his intelligent older brother as though his world just died. And then treating the situation as though Donnie was just sick in bed with a cold. So with Mikey I can see him initially trying to stay positive about everything and how the odds would be in their favor. But it will eventually become clear that he fears losing one of his brothers the most. (Maybe have him going through a five stages of grief kind of thing) Leo I can see him also trying to keep things positive and insisting that Donnie will be returned to himself, but at the same time they know and fear what he doesn't want to acknowledge which is what should happen if they are unable to find a cure. Episode 12: Donnie has been captured and contained. He's able to shape shift to his normal form, but each time he returns to his second mutation it's harder for him to become his normal self again. Even when he's normal he refuses to leave the containment for fear of accidentally harming his loved ones. Rockwell is working to devise a cure and yes he does turn to Donnie for advice when Donnie's in his right mind. The whole situation reminds Leo about Karai and how he failed her. He refuses to let that happen to his brother. Episode 13: Mikey centered episode. Mikey comes into the lab and talks with Donatallo. Donnie notices that Mikey is strangely subdued. Mikey insists it's nothing but breaks down and comments he's scared that Donnie's not going to get better. Donnie hasn't given up hope just yet...but he has acknowledged that there is a very likely chance that he would be lost to this. Mikey then supplies fond memories as a way of keeping Donnie with them longer which helps ease the pall of grief that rests in the room....but doesn't ease the fear and frustration with it all. Leo and Raph listen to the memories and also have their own childhood memories of Donnie. Episode 14: Leo and Raph have memory moments with Donatello. At the end Donnie pleads that if a cure can't be found, then he trusts them to know what needs to be done. Both of them understand what Donnie is saying but they are uncomfortable with it. Episode 15: April talks to Donnie, when Donnie reverts back to his savage monster self. Mikey offers Donnie some pizza as a way to help calm him down however Donnie reached out of the trey hatch and grabs Casey's leg. Everyone tries to get Casey away from Donnie while Splinter helps Donnie find himself again. Donnie returns to himself and is horrified by what he has nearly done. Leo remains behind while everyone else leaves the room, April over hears Leo trying to reassure his brother that everything will be fine and they would see their way past this. Donnie however says "You know as well as I that there isn't a cure, Leo. I rather end it as myself...not a mindless creature. I know this is a heavy task to ask of you...but I can't keep fighting the monster I have become." |
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