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Shellfox 09-25-2003 08:27 AM

XE's top 11 movie sequels, guess whos on it
 
http://www.ugo.com/channels/filmtv/f...leven/sequels/

Once more proving Matt is worthy of the highest praise

Reznorite420 09-25-2003 09:22 AM

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Originally Posted by whoever wrote that damned article
Though everyone has their favorite installment of the trilogy, it's tough to suggest that either Star Wars or Return of the Jedi even came close to the middle child

I EXPLICITLY beg to differ, my friend...

damnhooligan 09-25-2003 09:24 AM

Along with the Turtles, I'm happy to see Evil Dead 2, and the epic Bill and Ted's Bogus Journey made the list. :lol:

The Defibrillator 09-25-2003 09:31 AM

this matt guy cracks me up. My favorites on the list (besides the turts) are Gremlins 2 and Ghostbusters 2.

That Matt Guy 09-25-2003 09:32 AM

Yeah, that site is great. But Gremlins 2? :roll:

Reznorite420 09-25-2003 09:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Matthew138
Yeah, that site is great. But Gremlins 2? :roll:

Would you rather Gremlins 1? :P

Personally, I'm damn glad Robocop 2 made the list and NOT the third one.

Karpo_007 09-25-2003 10:08 AM

First of all, where is T2? And TMNT 2 is certainly not one of the best sequels. It's same if they had changed T2 to comedy and Arnold wouldn't have any guns. Also I never considered Robocop 2 to be so good sequel.

Well that's just one person's view, and the list does have few of the all time best sequels, like Dawn of the Dead, Aliens and Empire strikes back.

HorseTechie 09-25-2003 11:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Karpo_007
First of all, where is T2? And TMNT 2 is certainly not one of the best sequels. It's same if they had changed T2 to comedy and Arnold wouldn't have any guns. Also I never considered Robocop 2 to be so good sequel.

Yeah.. that doesn't make much sesne either. I would have picked T2 over Robocop 2 anyday.

But the TFormers movie also made a foot in (even though it didn't get a thumbnail and featrue intro), so I won't complain too much. :D

Taloniss 09-25-2003 03:08 PM

Batman Returns sucked hard as did Robocop 2. T2 deserved it more. And where's X2?!?!

HorseTechie 09-25-2003 03:50 PM

X2 is too new. Matt was looking at the seasoned classics.

Reznorite420 09-25-2003 06:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Karpo_007
TMNT 2 is certainly not one of the best sequels.

Would you rather TMNT 3?
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Originally Posted by Karpo_007
Also I never considered Robocop 2 to be so good sequel.

Dude, Robocop 2 blew the first one out of the water. And, pardon my monotony, but would you rather have ha Robocop 3 placed on there?

Also, he's not saying they're necessarily better than the original (you'd know this if you READ THE WHOLE ARTICLE!), just one SEQUEL as it's compared to any other SEQUELS in the sequel if any exist.

TheShredder 09-25-2003 06:38 PM

I posted about this in another topic. But whatever the article was still good.
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Originally Posted by Karpo_007
TMNT 2 is certainly not one of the best sequel

But come on it gave us Tokka, Rahzar, Super Shredder and it had Vanilla Ice singing the Ninja Rap! How can you go wrong!? I was good for humor at least!

Peanut 09-25-2003 06:51 PM

TMNT II to alot of people is a great sequal. All the people I know who have watched the movies call number 2 their favorite actually. I don't think it's the best, but it's obvious alot of people did. I don't see why the movie is ragged on so bad anyways.

Raven 09-25-2003 08:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Taloniss
Batman Returns sucked hard as did Robocop 2. T2 deserved it more. And where's X2?!?!

actulley I really liked batman 2, but I also agree robo cop 2 sucked.

Leo656 09-25-2003 09:26 PM

I liked Batman Returns... and Robocop 2...

And as I've said a million times, I can buy TMNT 2 being on the list ONLY because of The Great and Powerful Nash. If he wasn't involved, it woulda been pretty weak.

Peanut 09-25-2003 09:52 PM

They could have gotten any untalented big head to play that part! Thank god he didn't get to actually beat on the turtles...we would have been watching knees to the mid section for twenty minutes followed by an elbow to the face. :D

Leo656 09-25-2003 09:54 PM

The elbow to the face would have been allowed ONLY if he paused, put them "in frame", did the "suck it!" crotch point, THEN hit the elbow. Then he could have pulled a Rey Misterio and tossed Keno into the side of the club like a lawn dart, just for not being Casey Jones. :D

Karpo_007 09-25-2003 11:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Reznorite420
Quote:

Originally Posted by Karpo_007
TMNT 2 is certainly not one of the best sequels.

Would you rather TMNT 3?
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Originally Posted by Karpo_007
Also I never considered Robocop 2 to be so good sequel.

Dude, Robocop 2 blew the first one out of the water. And, pardon my monotony, but would you rather have ha Robocop 3 placed on there?

Also, he's not saying they're necessarily better than the original (you'd know this if you READ THE WHOLE ARTICLE!), just one SEQUEL as it's compared to any other SEQUELS in the sequel if any exist.


Neither part 2 or 3 of those movie series derve to be on a best seqeuls list. And I did read the article, now you re read my posts. I never said a good sequel needs to be better than original, that rarely happens.

About why I dis like TMNT 2, read my first post.

Sparvid 09-26-2003 04:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Reznorite420
Dude, Robocop 2 blew the first one out of the water.

:o

Reznorite420 09-26-2003 07:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Karpo_007
Neither part 2 or 3 of those movie series derve to be on a best seqeuls list.

Your empirical evidence on this matter, please?
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Originally Posted by Karpo_007
now you re read my posts.

I obviously did, otherwise I wouldn't have quoted most of what you said.
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Originally Posted by Karpo_007
About why I dis like TMNT 2, read my first post.

WTF is with you? Just because I bash your opinion doesn't mean I didn't read anything. I fully read your comments about it, and I don't think they make much sense: TMNT 2 had a helluva lot better scriptwriting and acting that TMNT 3. As for not using their weapons, were you asleep duing 2/3 of the movie?

As far as comparing it to T2, that analogy is completey fallacious. Keep in mind that the Terminator series was sci-fi killer action, not something based off a mildly violent comic book. If you really want to compare the downgrade of TMNT to the Terminator series, a more accurate analogy would be what T3 became: a little lighter, less graphic violence, but still a good watch. Now if the TMNT movie took a downfall to the level you described with the Terminator series, it would've been more like the turtles turning into Barney-ish characters with no real plot at all.

And I also don't think you were listening or really grasping what I was saying when I was talking about how he wasn't comparing these to the originals, so let me put it in simpler terms:

The lists consists of the best SEQUELS in the series FOR WHAT THEY'RE WORTH, not the entire series.

Sound better?

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Originally Posted by Karpo_007
I never said a good sequel needs to be better than original, that rarely happens.

IMO, at least one or 2 on that list are "rarely happens" in my book (Robocop 2 and Gremlins 2 namely).

HorseTechie 09-26-2003 11:27 AM

*psst* Guys, guys... they're just movies ranked by a guy who's just as geeky as the rest of us. He's not a media god. Yet. :P

Just settle down and realize opinions are just opinions. 'kay?

That Matt Guy 09-26-2003 11:50 AM

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Originally Posted by HorseTechie

:lol: Calm down or you'll get fried by the kitten!

HorseTechie 09-26-2003 12:14 PM

:evilgrin: Yes.. never underestimate the power of Klunk!

damnhooligan 09-26-2003 12:58 PM

That is the sole reason why I don't have a cat.

Well, that and the whole "I'm deathly allergic to em" deal. Come to think of it, I'm deathly allergic to death rays too. Coincidence? I think not!

Karpo_007 09-26-2003 01:18 PM

Rez is getting a little too excited over things that are just matters of opinion. I do not, and never will consider TMNT 2 as a good sequel. If you want to, it's your choice. I do not need any evidence for tha, and no matter how simple terms you put it, nothing will change that.

I should clear one thing since you seem to have missed it, when I refered to my first post I was replying to Michaelangelo, who wondered why some people don't like TMNT 2.

I guess I were sleepng, please refress my memory where they used their weapons in secret of the ooze. I do remember the suasages and Yoyos though.

As for the Terminator comparison, T3 is a bad example since while it has more comedy, has still good writing, acting and a lot of action. And it says pretty much true to the originals. Even if TMNT 2 had better action scenes, over kiddification and general cheesiness[Tokka, Rahzard, Supershredder and especially Vanilla Ice] make it too hard for me to watch.


And to preven further "WTF is wrong with you!!" I'll say that these are my opinions, feel free to disagree as much as you like.

Cascadia 10-04-2003 04:23 PM

In my opinion, the originals are better than the sequals. The guy that created that website, the sequals that he picked are according to his mind and which ones he thought were the best seasoned sequals.

Leo656 10-04-2003 07:43 PM

I actually thought his list was pretty good. A few exceptions aside which I dont feel like going into, but overall it was decent.

And who doesn't like Bogus Journey? BLASPHEMY!!! :evil:

tOkKa 10-05-2003 03:20 AM

--> > ooo oooo .. HORSEY TURTLE LADY.. thems talkin' smaKK about some of my favorite moviess..oo (well some of them are not alla 'em) .. oo it jes' makes be soo aaaannnngry ooooo!!!!!

.. HT..pleaaaaaase o pllleeease set the kitten loose pplleeaaassee!!



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