XE's top 11 movie sequels, guess whos on it

Shellfox · 09-25-2003, 07:27 AM

http://www.ugo.com/channels/filmtv/f...leven/sequels/

Once more proving Matt is worthy of the highest praise

~~Reznorite420~~ · 09-25-2003, 08:22 AM

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Originally Posted by whoever wrote that damned article

Though everyone has their favorite installment of the trilogy, it's tough to suggest that either Star Wars or Return of the Jedi even came close to the middle child

I EXPLICITLY beg to differ, my friend...

*damnhooligan* · 09-25-2003, 08:24 AM

Along with the Turtles, I'm happy to see Evil Dead 2, and the epic Bill and Ted's Bogus Journey made the list.

*The Defibrillator* · 09-25-2003, 08:31 AM

this matt guy cracks me up. My favorites on the list (besides the turts) are Gremlins 2 and Ghostbusters 2.

*That Matt Guy* · 09-25-2003, 08:32 AM

Yeah, that site is great. But Gremlins 2?

~~Reznorite420~~ · 09-25-2003, 08:44 AM

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Yeah, that site is great. But Gremlins 2?

Would you rather Gremlins 1?

Personally, I'm damn glad Robocop 2 made the list and NOT the third one.

**Karpo_007** · 09-25-2003, 09:08 AM

First of all, where is T2? And TMNT 2 is certainly not one of the best sequels. It's same if they had changed T2 to comedy and Arnold wouldn't have any guns. Also I never considered Robocop 2 to be so good sequel.

Well that's just one person's view, and the list does have few of the all time best sequels, like Dawn of the Dead, Aliens and Empire strikes back.

**HorseTechie** · 09-25-2003, 10:58 AM

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First of all, where is T2? And TMNT 2 is certainly not one of the best sequels. It's same if they had changed T2 to comedy and Arnold wouldn't have any guns. Also I never considered Robocop 2 to be so good sequel.

Yeah.. that doesn't make much sesne either. I would have picked T2 over Robocop 2 anyday.

But the TFormers movie also made a foot in (even though it didn't get a thumbnail and featrue intro), so I won't complain too much.

*Taloniss* · 09-25-2003, 02:08 PM

Batman Returns sucked hard as did Robocop 2. T2 deserved it more. And where's X2?!?!

**HorseTechie** · 09-25-2003, 02:50 PM

X2 is too new. Matt was looking at the seasoned classics.

~~Reznorite420~~ · 09-25-2003, 05:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Karpo_007

TMNT 2 is certainly not one of the best sequels.

Would you rather TMNT 3?

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Also I never considered Robocop 2 to be so good sequel.

Dude, Robocop 2 blew the first one out of the water. And, pardon my monotony, but would you rather have ha Robocop 3 placed on there?

Also, he's not saying they're necessarily better than the original (you'd know this if you READ THE WHOLE ARTICLE!), just one SEQUEL as it's compared to any other SEQUELS in the sequel if any exist.

~~TheShredder~~ · 09-25-2003, 05:38 PM

I posted about this in another topic. But whatever the article was still good.

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TMNT 2 is certainly not one of the best sequel

But come on it gave us Tokka, Rahzar, Super Shredder and it had Vanilla Ice singing the Ninja Rap! How can you go wrong!? I was good for humor at least!

Peanut · 09-25-2003, 05:51 PM

TMNT II to alot of people is a great sequal. All the people I know who have watched the movies call number 2 their favorite actually. I don't think it's the best, but it's obvious alot of people did. I don't see why the movie is ragged on so bad anyways.

*Raven* · 09-25-2003, 07:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Taloniss

Batman Returns sucked hard as did Robocop 2. T2 deserved it more. And where's X2?!?!

actulley I really liked batman 2, but I also agree robo cop 2 sucked.

~~Leo656~~ · 09-25-2003, 08:26 PM

I liked Batman Returns... and Robocop 2...

And as I've said a million times, I can buy TMNT 2 being on the list ONLY because of The Great and Powerful Nash. If he wasn't involved, it woulda been pretty weak.

Peanut · 09-25-2003, 08:52 PM

They could have gotten any untalented big head to play that part! Thank god he didn't get to actually beat on the turtles...we would have been watching knees to the mid section for twenty minutes followed by an elbow to the face.

~~Leo656~~ · 09-25-2003, 08:54 PM

The elbow to the face would have been allowed ONLY if he paused, put them "in frame", did the "suck it!" crotch point, THEN hit the elbow. Then he could have pulled a Rey Misterio and tossed Keno into the side of the club like a lawn dart, just for not being Casey Jones.

**Karpo_007** · 09-25-2003, 10:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Karpo_007

TMNT 2 is certainly not one of the best sequels.

Would you rather TMNT 3?

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Originally Posted by Karpo_007

Also I never considered Robocop 2 to be so good sequel.

Dude, Robocop 2 blew the first one out of the water. And, pardon my monotony, but would you rather have ha Robocop 3 placed on there?

Also, he's not saying they're necessarily better than the original (you'd know this if you READ THE WHOLE ARTICLE!), just one SEQUEL as it's compared to any other SEQUELS in the sequel if any exist.

Neither part 2 or 3 of those movie series derve to be on a best seqeuls list. And I did read the article, now you re read my posts. I never said a good sequel needs to be better than original, that rarely happens.

About why I dis like TMNT 2, read my first post.

Sparvid · 09-26-2003, 03:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Reznorite420

Dude, Robocop 2 blew the first one out of the water.

~~Reznorite420~~ · 09-26-2003, 06:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Karpo_007

Neither part 2 or 3 of those movie series derve to be on a best seqeuls list.

Your empirical evidence on this matter, please?

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now you re read my posts.

I obviously did, otherwise I wouldn't have quoted most of what you said.

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About why I dis like TMNT 2, read my first post.

WTF is with you? Just because I bash your opinion doesn't mean I didn't read anything. I fully read your comments about it, and I don't think they make much sense: TMNT 2 had a helluva lot better scriptwriting and acting that TMNT 3. As for not using their weapons, were you asleep duing 2/3 of the movie?

As far as comparing it to T2, that analogy is completey fallacious. Keep in mind that the Terminator series was sci-fi killer action, not something based off a mildly violent comic book. If you really want to compare the downgrade of TMNT to the Terminator series, a more accurate analogy would be what T3 became: a little lighter, less graphic violence, but still a good watch. Now if the TMNT movie took a downfall to the level you described with the Terminator series, it would've been more like the turtles turning into Barney-ish characters with no real plot at all.

And I also don't think you were listening or really grasping what I was saying when I was talking about how he wasn't comparing these to the originals, so let me put it in simpler terms:

The lists consists of the best SEQUELS in the series FOR WHAT THEY'RE WORTH, not the entire series.

Sound better?

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I never said a good sequel needs to be better than original, that rarely happens.

IMO, at least one or 2 on that list are "rarely happens" in my book (Robocop 2 and Gremlins 2 namely).

09-25-2003, 07:27 AM	#1
Shellfox Mad Scientist Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Texas Posts: 1,234	XE's top 11 movie sequels, guess whos on it http://www.ugo.com/channels/filmtv/f...leven/sequels/ Once more proving Matt is worthy of the highest praise __________________ We're americans, We build Monster Trucks for fun! Imagin what we'll build when you piss us off!!- Christopher Titus

09-25-2003, 08:24 AM	#3
damnhooligan Mad Scientist Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Dorksville, USA Posts: 1,745	Along with the Turtles, I'm happy to see Evil Dead 2, and the epic Bill and Ted's Bogus Journey made the list. __________________

09-25-2003, 08:31 AM	#4
The Defibrillator Mad Scientist Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Dee Eff Dubble You Posts: 1,631	this matt guy cracks me up. My favorites on the list (besides the turts) are Gremlins 2 and Ghostbusters 2. __________________ My newest signature.

09-25-2003, 08:32 AM	#5
That Matt Guy Honey Bunches Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Lone Star State Posts: 5,840	Yeah, that site is great. But Gremlins 2?

09-25-2003, 09:08 AM	#7
Karpo_007 Inactive Moderator Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Finland Posts: 8,798	First of all, where is T2? And TMNT 2 is certainly not one of the best sequels. It's same if they had changed T2 to comedy and Arnold wouldn't have any guns. Also I never considered Robocop 2 to be so good sequel. Well that's just one person's view, and the list does have few of the all time best sequels, like Dawn of the Dead, Aliens and Empire strikes back.

09-25-2003, 02:08 PM	#9
Taloniss Mad Scientist Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Toronto Posts: 1,819	Batman Returns sucked hard as did Robocop 2. T2 deserved it more. And where's X2?!?!

09-25-2003, 02:50 PM	#10
HorseTechie Inactive Moderator Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Midwest Posts: 5,677	X2 is too new. Matt was looking at the seasoned classics.

09-25-2003, 05:51 PM	#13
Peanut Second Gear Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: The New World Posts: 15,422	TMNT II to alot of people is a great sequal. All the people I know who have watched the movies call number 2 their favorite actually. I don't think it's the best, but it's obvious alot of people did. I don't see why the movie is ragged on so bad anyways.

09-25-2003, 08:26 PM	#15
~~Leo656~~ Banned Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: nWo Country Posts: 27,703	I liked Batman Returns... and Robocop 2... And as I've said a million times, I can buy TMNT 2 being on the list ONLY because of The Great and Powerful Nash. If he wasn't involved, it woulda been pretty weak.

09-25-2003, 08:52 PM	#16
Peanut Second Gear Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: The New World Posts: 15,422	They could have gotten any untalented big head to play that part! Thank god he didn't get to actually beat on the turtles...we would have been watching knees to the mid section for twenty minutes followed by an elbow to the face.

09-25-2003, 08:54 PM	#17
~~Leo656~~ Banned Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: nWo Country Posts: 27,703	The elbow to the face would have been allowed ONLY if he paused, put them "in frame", did the "suck it!" crotch point, THEN hit the elbow. Then he could have pulled a Rey Misterio and tossed Keno into the side of the club like a lawn dart, just for not being Casey Jones.