what do we know of Krang's past?
 

he was banished from Demension X. He was ahsamed to let his rock army see him like he was (in brain form) so he must have once been a humanoid lifeform. Do we know anything else? anyone have any theories or fan backstories for Krang? He's a very intriguing character once u get past the sterotypical 1 dimensional bad guy plague he and Shredder suffered.

I was always under the impression that Krang was once a Stone Warrior (of Tragg's race, not the smaller, grey race), who was tried for War Crimes, and banished from the Dimension and lost his body along the way. I'm not really sure where I got that last part, but it's been part of my understanding of his character for years.

I don't know the facts for this, but it looks like the artists modled him after utroms.

In episode #168 Invasion of the Krangezoids, krang clones himself. His clones eventually regain their body. If i can find a pick of them i'll post it. And they really don't resemble stone warriors at all.

In one of the episodes, they have a flashback where they show Krang in his bubble walker working in a lab with a bunch of other "Kranglike" creatures, who are also in bubble walkers. The way I figure it, his "body" was nothing more than a host android shell.

no he actually had a body

what did it look like?

The body looked kinda like and Raptor mixed with one of teh aliens from 'Aliens' with Krang for a head, the one pic I know of, doesn't work anymore

i must say that i like the krang-design best (the one who needs machines to move)

what made it fascinating was that krang was so bloody evil but so weak. i'm sure he can't even open a bag of crisps with those tentacles. BUt he can work out the most brilliant plans to take over the world.

i always liked the eps where krang got bashed or had to move on his own (turtles on trial, beware of the lotus, the power of three, the one with berserko. did i miss one?) because it showed the kinda schizophrenia of Krang: evil but weak. Fascinating

What we know:
Krang once ruled over dimension x with a body like the ones his clones have in Invasion of the Krangezoids. From what was seen in the Four Musketurtles doesn't prove that the bubble walker was their "body." If you remember in Invasion of the Krangezoids they all started out as simple brains like Krang. The clones however, grew much faster than normal and gained their full body at a pace much faster than Krang originally did. Krang says in Four Musketurtles it was their first test of dimensional transporting which means it was probably in his early years when he was still a simple brain in a bubble walker. Then, for crimes his body was somehow removed and he was banished to Earth. He probably figured that he could easily conquer the Earth if he simply had the technology to do so. Sometime in the future, he met Drakus (Beserko) who was from Get Shredder whom helped him design the technodrome but this wasn't enough. Krang needed some way of getting the materials, equipment, and men to build the technodrome. Sometime later he met Shredder and promised him unlimited power if he helped him. Shredder probably then called the members of the foot clan to help them steal the materials and help build the technodrome. The foot members probably revolted and left so Krang and Shredder designed the robotic foot soldiers to finish the job. During the final stages of construction (for example: the portal wasn't working until ep 4), the series started.
That is the best I can do my friends.

Attack of the Krangezoids Screen Caps
 

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Actually, I think we're infringing on a simple script inconsistency here, because the flashback in "Four musketurtles" was written a few years before "Krangzoids". I think the writers there had different ideas of what Krang's body was. Otherwise, it doesn't make sense that all others of his race were in bubble walkers, but then later Krang's clones grew real bodies. They just didn't stick with a consistent definition of Krang's body.

Exactly, since the show had so many writers, there wasn't really any continuity. But since it has been said everywhere that Krang did have a body, I think it looked like those in Invasion of the Krangezoids.

well i must say i have bad memory, how did he loose it?

Car Accident :(

1) I don't think there were any separate "races" of Stone Warriors

2) Granitor (the grey one) looked bigger than Traag if you ask me.

This whole topic does bring up a good question: What were the terms of Krang's punishment. The show was never really clear on that. I suppose if the comics had Krang, they would go into a deeper explanation of things. But it just doesn't really make sense to punish him by taking away his body, but leaving his superintelligent mind to roam free. Something else must have happened, but not sure what.

Quite frankly, that's all irrelevent.

Well in wrath of the rat king, krang had the weapon known as the shockwave and since he was unable to use it since he lost his body (i'm assuming this means he couldn't have used it w/ his android body so he most have had an original body)he wanted shredder to use it.

Well, the thread IS called "What do we know of Krang's past"...

Since the show was like it was, there isn't any real information, only speculation. But Like I said I think Krang looked like the Krangezoids.

And the answer is "nothing", so why bother delving into it? Information about his past wouldn't have been important in the old series when it was on, nor is it helpful to know now since the show's been over for 7 years.

Or the scientist aliens we saw in "The Four Musketurtles" had their bodies confiscated the same way Krang did... a lot of the post world war 2 big scientific breakthroughs made in the USA were helped along by Nazi scientists sneaked out of Germany at the end of the war... my pet theory is they took the scientists' bodies off the aliens, or put war criminals to use in laboratories, so they couldn't be distracted from scientific pursuits by carnal urges or what have you.

Now that makes sense. That's probably similar to what did happen to Krang and his allies.

That's a pretty good theory, and since this whole thing is kind of jumbled, it's possible...but I was more under the impression Krang's body loss was an accident.

When Tragg saw him in 004 - Hotrodding Teenagers..., he seemed surprised, but not shocked, by a giant bodiless brain and recognized Krang still.

Could be. I got the impression it was a punishment from "Blast From the Past", where the Turtles are recounting their origin and whoever's explaining where Krang came from says he's a war criminal who had his body taken away as a punishment. Could just be a script error, I don't know.

I just realized something. Everyone's assuming that Krang's original body was organic. What if it wasn't? What if it was a robotic body like the one Shredder built?

As for the bodies his clones grew, it could be a side effect of the process. Accelerated evolution, or old genes regaining dominance.

Just my theory.

your theories are acerted most of the time :wink:

no disrespect to you, but since this IS a discussion forum, I simply brought up an topic to discuss. Krang is an interesting character and its equally interesting to speculate about his past.

Good point Green Ranger. Just because the show has been over for 7 years does Not mean it's not worth discussing or remembering. History is discussed all the time, why not here?

in the krangazoids episode someone explained why they grew bodies. they are clones and since krang wasn't born as a pink brain with two tentacles they regain krang's initial form (the lizzard people)

and for Tragg not being surprised: maybe he knows krang's former power and cruelty and kept his emotions fo himself.

wasn't there an episode where we see bits of krang's operation? (the one where he gets turned into "our krang")

I doubt the lizard thing is Krang's original form because of how surprised he was when it happened and not knowing what changes would happen next. Also, the changes also happened to krang too, but he had them reversed - if it was changing him back to his normal body, I doubt he would have had the changes reversed.

well why should a, lets say, a rock soldier changed into a brain (operation) suddenly change into a lizard?