Michael Jackson
 

Remember when he was black? Wow, that takes me back.

At least in the first case he was guilty! Why else would he have paid such a huge amount of money to that boy?
It it can be proved put him in jail (or into zoo, that... thing isn't even human anymore) forever!

Give me a break.. He paid that much because that's what they wanted in the first place. Money. Honestly, if some man molested your child, would you shut up for any sum of money? I know I wouldn't. All Mike is is a big child. Having sleep overs. Not doing anything sexual. If he was doing things that are so wrong with these children, do you think he would openly admit to sharing his bed with them on national television? The world needs to just let this man be. He's tried so hard to give to the people and children of this world, and all the world seems to do now is spit in his face. Imagine how much that must hurt.

um right, i kninda have....no totally disagree, hes how old sharing a bed with some one thats 12 or 13........right nothing going on weird there.
he has a alarm that detects when some one is 20 feet away from his room......right I wonder what thats for.
grabs his crotch like mj then walks out of the thread.

Elite, your words and mine on the subject were amazingly similar, practically identical, for a while. Being familiar with cases like that and how things get twisted and how people try and blackmail celebrities ALL the time (way more often than we hear about), it seemed strange to me that the kid's family only came out in 1993 AFTER MJ refused to pay them a huge sum of money. THEN they went to the press with their story. Seemed very odd to me, and still does.

But with this new information, I really don't know. I've played devil's advocate for MJ for a long time, but I seriously think that as of this moment, whether he's innocent or not, his career is over. This latest scandal is the last straw, and no matter what happens, even if he's found not guilty, he'll never be able to regain public face. 9 times out of 10, just being accused of a crime is just as bad as actually committing it in the public's eyes. And after all these allegations, MJ's career is finished. Personally, I think he's going to kill himself.

I always tended to think that he didn't do it and that the fact he is a weird guy made him an easy target, but who knows now. He could have done it, or this latest case could just be another extortion scheme. God knows most of the accusations thrown at celebrities are bullsh*t, especially dealing with sexual misconduct (anyone remember when Hulk Hogan was accused of raping a female Mall of America employee in 1995? No? Not surprising, because it was just another failed celebrity extortion attempt)... but I just don't know anymore. I officially have no opinion until more facts come out on this.

I have to agree with Leo656, Jsckson's case is open to practically ANYTHING, just like in 1993.

He settled things out of court then, which sadly screwed him in the long run, nobody took him seriously after that, he refused to go through the trial process, which would have either proved him Guilty or Not Guilty: an honourable verdict.

He chose to take a coward's way out, and even though I will remain a fan of Michale, his last album sucked, and he should stop right now, lock himself away in his chamber of secrets, and re-release his old albums fifty times and become richer.

"Billy Jean is not my lover?"

Which Billy Jean is that Michale? a boy?

i don't know...the whole thing seems supicious to me :-?

He may be a kid at heart, but why did he mutate his face?

I'd also like to point out, that a law was past recently and now anyone accused of Child Molesting can not settle out of court.

I'm still a fan of his. Abuse case or not.

I'm largely with Leo656. I'm not making anything of it till I see the actual court case proceed. I do believe that the first case back in the early 90's was a ******** extortion case though. The father of that boy had previously approached MJ several times for money (~$40 million) for a movie project. MJ refused. Cue court case. And I might note that the so-called victim was able to escape having to testify due to a loophole in California law, resulting in the collapse of the criminal case and the opening of a civil suit, which I dare say was the plan of the father in the first place. This is where a settlement of ~$35 million occured. I've never seen a genuine case of molestation go this route - the parents or victim always want a conviction. If it was genuine molestation and the father then took advantage of it for monetary gain, then I don't think much of him.

I sincerely hope MJ isn't a pedophile. He's very obviously suffering from psychological issues, one of which is bound to include body dysmorphia, which in a nutshell is hatred of ones physical appearance and the belief that changing this appearance will bring happiness. That's why he's done all that dreadful surgery to his face. It's very sad to see the disintegration of a formerly great music talent. I do worry about his kids, not because of molestation, but the mental instability of parents always reflects on the kids, and I'm wondering what sort of basketcases they might end up if raised by him. I don't think he should be allowed to adopt more, simply on the basis of his psychiatric condition, which clearly isn't all that stable.

As for sleep overs - kids do that all the time, I shared beds with friends a lot, and if you look at MJ as desperately wishing to return to or stay a child, it's not that big a deal.

But anyway, California law was changed as a result of the first case against MJ - accusers can no longer skip out of testifying in the criminal case - the child in question will be compelled to take the stand or at least provide a video-taped testimony. We'll see how this turns out before too long.

How do you know when it's bedtime at Jacko's?

When the big hand touches the little hand! *Ba-dum, chhh!*

Seriously, this dude needs to be in a zoo. His music might be great, but what a freakin creep.



America......the only country in the world where a black boy can grow up to be a white woman.

:flaming:

Man, isn't that crazy how someone can do so many great things (all his music) but still have some crazy crap wron with them (skin change, the kid stuff, etc)? I guess its life seeking balance in all things...

HAHAHAHA :lol: So true. His music rules but he is just pathetically weird.

Why so mad? Can 'african-american' boys become white women in other countries too?

Elite's black himself...or didnt' you know that?

Anyway, I hope Jacko gets a does of his own medicine when he's in the slammer, if you knaw'mean...

I know that Elite is black. I just don't why he got angry. Either at the MJ remark, or about a black boy becoming a white woman.

Michael from the early 80's = Awesome, gorgeous, woulda had a poster of him if I hadn't been an infant ( :lol: )

Michael now = scares the ever-lovin' crap out of me. To be honest, I really do feel sorry for him, but it's mostly because he seems to be suffering from arrested development. Listen to him when he talks and you'll know what I mean.

God Bless America... where you're ALWAYS guilty until proven innocent, and even then nobody believes you... :roll:

Believe me, I know. I was locked up (very briefly) and accused of (among other things) attacking my neighbor and threatening her life. I went to court, got a fine, and you know what I learned in that experience? It doesn't matter if you're innocent or not. As soon as someone even points a finger at you, you're damned. And from then on, every little thing you do just "proves" your guilt in the eyes of the public. When I attempted to explain MY case to the police, I was basically met with "shut up, we don't care about your side, we don't believe you". THAT is how "justice" in this country works.

I swear, part of me hopes MJ IS guilty, because if he's NOT I can only imagine the way all this stuff's affected his already-fragile psyche.

I wasn't mad about any racial comments. Just all the BS about Mike tends to get under my skin.

Well I am thinking he is guilty and if he is...he should be thrown in the slammer and for a reasonable time or forever. And for being a musical/celebrity he better not get any easy breaks. Or an easy bail ammount. He has lots of money he can get himself out easily. So if he is guilty toss him in the bars and let him think what he has done and keep him away from little kids!

Quite frankly, I am sick and tired of hearing Michael Jackson on the news. What I think about him? All I have to say is that if he truly is guilty, then I can say that he's really one sick dude. If not, then okay. I feel sorry for him, though. He's had a very tough past (and present). I don't think the man's career will be over, unless he is convicted and will be behind bars for a long time...though he's not as big as he once was. We'll just have to wait and see what happens next.

i think hes guilty...now there saying he has a SECRET room in his closet and theres a shrine to all sorts of kids in it, thats just wrong hes so guilty its oozing out of his non-existant facial pours he need shelp and i hope he is found guilty and put in jail but u know who else is guilty? the parenst i mean come on
1: who lets there kids spend the night at his house?
2: who lets there kids spend the night at his house in his bed?
3: who lets there kids spend the night at his house in his bed when there have been other cases of him molesting kids??

see what i mean....i cant wait to see this on tv..he beter be put behind bars. i dont want another oj here. hes just as guilty. i mean who plays a game of golf all happy and smileing after being on trial for the murder of his wife???? ill tell u some1 who is guilty and got away w/ it...

Everyone knows the guy is nuttier than a squirrel turd, so who would be surprised if he was guilty?

I doubt he's a pedafile, there's a difference between having a snooze with a child and having sexual intercourse with a child. And anyway, he has had hundreds of children over to his Never Land place, a few hundred children can't keep the fact of having sexual intercaurse with a 45 year old man a secret, it's just not gonna happen. If he did have sex with all those kids they all would have said something, but they didn't did they? This is why I hate commercal television, they don't care who they hurt so long as they get good ratings. Ask me, Jackson seems like a hurt little boy in a man's body. I vote Jackson innocent.

You may be right. But I don't see someone having a sleepover with a kid in the SAME bed! I just don't think that's proper. Oh well we will have to wait and see what they get out of him.

His family bailed him out, just saw it on the telly.

^ ^.......=Wow, how stupid. =

Like I said, I think he's guilty, but my opinion really doesn't matter....

So yeah the moral of the story is don't go hang out with MJ.....in his house.....in his room....in his bed......It's a bad combo.

I place him above Clowns on the scary scale. With his fluorescant(sp?) body, skeleton face and his pasty skin he looks like a clown anyway. blecgh.

Those are the exact questions that went through my head. I mean, I never take anything the media says as the real truth, but honestly, even if I liked Michael's music, there's no way I'd trust the man with my kids! Previous charges or not, he's just creepy!

I love his music and think he is very talented, but the man(?) is a FREAK!!! Everytime I see new pictures of him, he gets more and more weird looking. I saw a picture of him on the news last night from the Santa Barbara Police, and he look like some sort of deformed monkey. The fact that he can say time and time again he's never had plastic surgery is a joke. The fact that these child molestation cases keep coming up every few years is apalling. How can he not say his is a pedophille? These things wouldn't keep happening if he weren't. It's just a shame to see such a big, talented star become such an complete nutjob.

Oh ok, that's good. :)

MJ
 

Ok,I know this is weird,but I have two opinons on this.


1.He's guilty,the parents are FREAKS! How the hell are they gonna forget about what he was acused of before!? Them parents drop off their kids at his house,and the kids get lost in his house, and spend the night! Now you know he's weird,because on one of his specials,he said"It's so nice sharing a bed with someone". And he was cuddeling with that kid! :o and holding his hand! Who the heck names their child,"blanket"? You take your child out of the hospital RIGHT after their born..he's a freak,I'm sorry. He likes little boys,that's all you hear."Micheal Jackson has be charged of sexual assaulting a 10 year old boy".


2.He may have not done it,maybe the parents just want money.They seen it before..and they might want to cause trouble and just get money.Then again,the kid did have cancer didn't he?

WARNING: THE FOLLWOING LINK LEADS TO A PICTURE THAT HONESTLY MIGHT SCARE SOME PEOPLE, NO JOKE

You wouldn't happen to be talking about this picture, would you?

Well, to be fairly sympathetic, the reason he HAD so much plastic surgery (as well as why he denies it) is because he was abused as a child and constantly told by his father that he was ugly. Obviously MJ always had a very fragile psyche to begin with, and it only makes sense that such constant emotional abuse would make him hate his appearance and constantly try to change it.

So, all aspiring parents, don't call your kids ugly. Kids ARE ugly, but don't TELL them that. or at least not that bluntly. Find nicer ways to say it, like "Cindy, have you ever considered wearing makup to cover that hideous mole on your cheek?", or "Boy, Timmy, the fact that you're cross-eyed really makes you stand out... you're unique!" Otherwise they'll hate you, hate themselves, and spend millions of dollars trying to look like Liz Taylor.... or Liz Taylor's corpse.

Actually what the law does is allow the district attorney to petition a court to halt a civil action until the criminal trial is completed. This is done so that the victim can testify at the criminal proceeding - without interference from the civil suit. A crime victim CANNOT be compelled to testify.

A civil case can still be settled out of court (most of them are in fact). Michael Jackson did not admit to any guilt in settling the case 10 years ago and the settlement agreement only ended the civil suit (the child could still have testified in a criminal proceeding and chose not to). A settlement agreement with a clause prohibiting the victim from testifying in a criminal proceeding is in violation of public policy and would be struck down as unenforceable.

At the very least Michael is guilty of very poor judgment in how he conducts himself with children. His attorney Johnnie Cochran advised him 10 years ago not to be alone with any children and he apparently failed to follow that sound advise.

And if Michael is actually guilty of lewd and lascivious conduct with a child, then he certainly should be treated no differently than any other person found guilty of that charge and should be sentenced accordingly.

What's bothering me is that MJ's bail was $3 million, and Spector's bail (for someone accused of murder) was only $1 million. I really don't understand that.

That's because he's Micheal Jackson :lol:

Yeah that is very stupid. He may be sick but that is horrible to rob him of money for bail. If you going to put up a bail please put a bail that is fair to everyone. That is what I hate. Just because he is rich or a celebrity the police board want money.