Ghostbusters: Afterlife sequel (GB4)
 

Because it probably warrants its own thread...

https://i.ibb.co/cFgfFm3/bill-murray...3-804x1000.jpg

https://www.darkhorizons.com/more-ve...rs-on-the-way/

https://www.comingsoon.net/movies/ne...-sony-pictures

https://variety.com/2022/film/news/v...ny-1235240650/

I don't expect to see the return of Bill Murray after recent events. It'll just be Paul Rudd and the two kids.

Have they even said what this supposed bad behavior was on yet?

And that's exactly why Twitter needs to change for the better. So little pussy **** like that doesn't matter. "Oh someone said something offensive or problematic? Let me put him in my next movie".

He's got a terrible on-set history that goes way beyond "saying nasty things" and stretches back decades. He's physically assaulted multiple people and threatened many more. He always gets away with it because "He's Bill Murray". But lest we forget, the reason he and Ramis didn't speak for decades is because even his "Good Friend" Harold finally had enough of "Bill being Bill" and slammed him into a wall by his shirt collar.

Even off-set, he's reportedly a nightmare. There's the "walking into a room at a restaurant and stealing/breaking everyone's cell phones so nobody can record him" stuff, but there's also the little matter of, he was horribly verbally abusive to his ex-wife and may have physically abused her, as well. One of their kids once attested to the fact that he screamed at his wife during an argument, "I could f*cking kill you and nobody would ever know." There's supposedly voicemails of him saying similar things.

Everybody wants to like Bill Murray because he's Bill Murray. But the sad fact of the matter that we're only now recognizing is that... Bill Murray is kind of a scumbag who just happens to have a charming screen presence. Pick any movie he's ever worked on, and there's no shortage of "Oh, f*ck THAT guy" stories.

As to what happened THIS time... one can guess, even though it hasn't come out yet. He probably got drunk and screamed at/threatened someone, maybe touched a woman inappropriately. He once threw an ashtray at Richard Dreyfuss's face, threw a female director into a lake during an argument, ripped the same director's glasses off her face and broke them when she refused to give him more days off... it could be ANY f*cking thing, with him, that's the thing. He's NOT a nice guy.

Which is unfortunate. But more and more, people are just getting fed up with him. How many guys have had entire movie productions shut down just so the studio can hire bodyguards to keep him away from the rest of the cast? Only Bill Murray, as far as I'm aware.

He's special. He's just a Special Kinda Guy.
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As far as the movie, I'm tepidly excited simply because we don't know anything yet. I liked "Afterlife" a ton but the next one could be anything. All we know is "They're doing another one." I'll have more to say when we know more of substance.

The odds I would ever be able to sit down and share a drink with Bill Murray are pretty low, so I don't really care about how nice or not nice he is (though I've read over the years about him surprising this person or that person, in a good way?). He remains probably my favorite actor.

As an actor, he's great.

As a human being, he's apparently not, which more and more seems just as likely as "He's elusive on purpose" as to why he doesn't work more often than he does. Almost everyone who ever worked with him has said "I'm never working with him again" and that leaves an ever-shrinking pool of people both in front of and behind the camera.

I'm sure he's not hurting for money and he only ever worked when he wanted to anyway. Point is, very few people even WANT to work with him, anymore. And that's just plain not a good look.

It's a shame because all anyone really has is their legacy, and he's not gonna be around much longer. The stuff we KNOW about him is bad; one can only imagine the stuff they keep under wraps that'll start coming out when he's gone.

He doesn't care, but he should. It's all on him. He could be remembered as "just" a brilliant actor, OR "a brilliant actor who drank too much and was a huge asshole to everyone he ever met for no good reason at all." Everybody loves the guy... until they meet him. He has no REASON to treat people like sh*t... he just does it to amuse himself (or because he's drunk). It's not like he's some overlooked, underappreciated guy who toiled for years and never got a break; he's a living legend who punched his own ticket, and he's STILL the most miserable son of a bitch alive.

What SENSE does that make? Why can't he just A. Be appreciative of how fortunate he is, and B. Treat other people the way they treat him? Nobody on Earth ever woke up on any given day and said, "I'm gonna go start sh*t with Bill Murray." Rather, Bill Murray wakes up and decides to be a f*cking prick for no reason.

It's not defensible. And it's gonna be a huge black mark on his legacy. And whose fault is that? Only his. That's the real shame of it all. He could go down in history any way he wants and that's how he wants to be remembered. As a "drunken Irish bully", in Dreyfuss's words.

When the world gives you f*cking Everything, it doesn't cost you anything just to f*cking be nice to people.

For some reason, I keep thinking this thread is about a Ghostbusters game on the GBA when I see the title.

I assume Bill Murray is done with this. Which is totally fine. He only appeared in the reboot because he pretty much had to and in Afterlife for Jason and Ivan.

This must continue with Phoebe in some way. It would not make sense otherwise. Have the Spengler family (Mr. Grooberson) join Ray and Winston.

Introduce their kids/family too. Give their personal life some attention. They don’t have to be GB. Also find a spot for Podcast.

Something I just thought of...Muncher is Slimer’s counterpart. Give Stay Puft a counterpart with a new equally cute monster. I don’t mean a giant. Maybe a Twinkie? Is that too on-the-nose? :lol: Doesn’t have to be food I guess.

At this point, Murray did what he needed to do. If she shows up in a mid-credits thing, awesome. That'd be enough.

And if Oscar shows, hey. That's his stepson. Maybe he can peek around.

He is a good actor and yes I have heard he is hard to work with though he must be doing something right if many actors have no problem working with him many times. Also heard he is a really good tipper.

Bill Murray looks 90 even though he's only 71. I don't know what the hell happened to him.

All he had to do was put some black hair dye in there and he'd look 50 years younger.

He used to have a lot of neck fat, losing that gives anyone obvious wrinkles.

Drinking too much also ages the hell out of a person. Especially if they otherwise don't take great care of themselves. He's never been a particularly vain guy so frankly it's impressive he doesn't look a bit worse considering what we know of his lifestyle.

Murray comments on his latest troubles. A little.

https://variety.com/2022/film/news/b...on-1235255203/

I bet it wasn't much of anything.

Sounds like he most likely touched someone inappropriately or made a comment about a woman's body.

Which granted, isn't "much", but still, you're not allowed to do that anymore. Everyone knows that.

I think jumping to "he touched someone" is a little presumptive. I've been thinking it was some kind of gag, or said something "offensive" or something. Not ruling it out, though.

I could have sworn he said he "did something" that was supposed to be funny but wasn't taken that way, but I could have read it wrong.

Part of why my mind jumped there is because that happened to me, once. Way back in high school I was best friends with this one girl, and we were kinda "huggy" and everything so one day I playfully patted her on the butt. And OH BOY did that become A Whole Big Thing that went on for weeks. I had to apologize to her in front of all our friends, AND to our friends, and blah blah. I didn't feel like it was a big deal, but I was upset that THEY did.

Then later on I found out that she let a guy she didn't even like finger-bang her and her friend at the same time. So I haven't felt bad about it since. :lol: F*ck her.

Yeah, women are just oversensitive over stuff like that. Like, I understand the fear of being assaulted but sometimes a pat on the butt is just a pat on the butt. I can assume you weren't pinning her down or whatever.

Like obviously I wouldn't wantsome woman to tie me down and use tools on me against my will, but if some random strange woman slapped my butt like at a store or something, yeah I woulda been surprised or whatever but I'd chock it up to 'that weird thing that happened that one day', especially if it was a one time thing and there was zero indication she wanted to go further.

We were literally just saying "See ya later" at the lockers between classes. Quick hug, then a playful pat on the fanny. She whacked me on the arm and called me a jerk, but otherwise it seemed like everything was fine. I thought absolutely nothing of it. I apologized later and she pretended to accept and I thought we were all good.

Fast forward to weeks of our other friends slowly shutting me out little by little, except for one or two who were also "I don't see what the problem is", until they finally had a group "intervention" where they invited me out with them for the express purpose of explaining en masse "Here's what you did wrong and why you're an asshole." :roll:

I did, and do, feel like that was a bit much, especially as this girl wasn't at all foreign to grabbing onto any guy she felt like as if they were a piece of meat, her own self. But I was really close with most of these people, so I sat through their scolding lectures about "consent" and "boundaries" anyway and apologized yet again, and apparently that was "good enough" to be "allowed" to hang out with and be spoken to by everyone again.

It was all very hypocritical and self-serving, on her/their part, but I only saw that later on after more and more things came to light. Basically, if I had been "her type", she would have laughed it off, but I wasn't "cute enough" by her standards so she saw fit to make it a Huge Deal when it wasn't a huge deal. Again, she once let the guy in our group that she borderline hated finger-blast her and her friend at the same time, simply because he looked like a Backstreet Boy. She constantly went on and on in private about what a jerk that guy was and how much he disgusted her as a human being... but not so much that she wouldn't let him get his fingers in her honey pot, apparently.

She went on to have a bunch of bad relationships with a string of guys who treated her badly, because that's what you get when you prioritize guys based on their looks, so good for her. I don't know what ever happened to her otherwise, we had a nasty break-up over an unrelated incident a few years later and never spoke again. I know some of our friends said they talk to her on FB but her name never comes up otherwise. Some of them took my side in the "break-up" and it got really awkward, so I think it's just mutually understood that they not mention me to her or her to me because it just works better for everyone that way.

But yeah that whole situation was bullsh*t. Looking back I'm amazed I stayed friends with her for as long as I did, afterward. She had a way of being really nice when she wanted to be, though, plus she was hot, so I guess I was blinded.

Lots of stuff in the works - Afterlife sequel, animated movie, Netflix animated series, Dark Horse comic, etc.

https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/mo...ls-1235160864/

Weird they don't namedrop the Spirits Unleashed game. But yeah. Cool to see. We'll see if there's anything worth getting excited about with the animated thing. Might be about the same "quality" as the Fast and the Furious Netflix animated show.

I am super excited right now. I don’t even know what to say. I’m a little surprised about an animated movie. So happy GB4 continues from Afterlife and so happy the cartoon is on Netflix and not another separate service.

I don't think it's oversensitivity. I think it's opportunism during times they are against someone or on the whim of exploiting a mistake for their power.

People who are oversensitive usually go home and ponder a situation and ultimately let it go unless something is a raging violation.

Of course opportunists will never cop to it, but there are a lot of bad souls out in the world just looking to feel empowered by hurting someone else. The easiest and most cowardly way to do that is to weaponize being offended.

Release date is set: 12/20/23.

https://www.darkhorizons.com/ghostbu...uel-sets-date/

That's a fairly quick turnaround for a CGI-heavy thing that hasn't started filming yet. They must be really close to getting going.

Didn’t they say they started writing it after Afterlife was done? It’s still over a year away though. I’m super happy it’s next year but it’s still a little while and the writing is pretty much be done I assume.

Hope they give details about the storyline at ComicCon.

Im really happy, Afterlife was a very special movie to me after the horrors of 2016, but it had a few problems, namely the endless callbacks and nostalgia pandering. Since Afterlife already has the fans on board, now Ressurection or whatever 4’s called can tell more of it’s own story.

Personally, id like a lot more scares, like, idc what you say, Ghostbusters 2 was ****ing SCARY.

Yeah. We didn't get Ghostbusters 3 but we got a decent enough coda to the original movies -- now forward we go. I really hope the tongue-in-cheek rumors about Vigo aren't true (though I certainly wouldn't mind bigger Ghostbusters 2 connections).

I have yet to see Afterlife, but my best friend (this is a guy I've known for I think 25 years now) was so jazzed about it. He said it was terrific and he laughed saying "dude it's going to sound corny but the end of the movie is so cool and so gratifying that it almost makes you tear up." :lol:

I really need to see it....

I hope it's true. I finally picked this up on 4k and got around to watching it around Christmas. It was terrific....

Hope Bill Murray comes back as well for the next one.

It has begun filming:

https://www.darkhorizons.com/ghostbu...egins-filming/

And I wouldn't count on Bill Murray. They dragged him out and he did the little appearance as Venkman and it's done now. I had hopes it would have been more and he would have been amenable to such but it was only fantasy. If anything he'll pop up in the mid-credits sequence again or something.

A little odd they're not making any mention of Aykroyd. Of course Aykroyd will be in the movie.

https://ghostbustersnews.com/2023/03...turning-stars/

So they must have a significant role.

Why are you posting the same thing I did?

Oh haha, didn’t notice, sorry. I just saw Andrew saying there’s no mention of Dan Aykroyd. So I guess he didn’t read your link either.

Kumail Nanjiani And Patton Oswalt Among Newest Additions To Cast Of ‘Ghostbusters: Afterlife’ Sequel

https://deadline.com/2023/03/kumail-...el-1235308852/

Ehhhhh... Kumail is a pretty annoying guy and Patton isn't very funny. I'm not sure about this.

Everyone's favorite this man has no dick himself Walter Peck is back in this movie

https://screenrant.com/ghostbusters-...n-walter-peck/