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Mandi-chan 06-21-2004 04:35 PM

I feel bad about asking this but....
 
Am I the only one here who doesn't like the old toon at all? I got my hands on a couple of tapes of the old toon thanks to my british buddy, I was real excited and watched it as soon as I got home but I didn't like it. I loved it as a kid but I'm 17 now. I was really disappointed and tried to like it but I just couldn't. Even if I hadn't seen the movies or the new show I'm positive I still would have disliked the old toon, it seemed too goofy and I don't like shows like that anymore. Am I the only one who feels this way? Please don't flame me! :(

Brodie 06-21-2004 04:40 PM

Some episodes are downright silly, but still, some eps are really good.

jeff the cheff 06-21-2004 05:08 PM

This might sound ridiculous(and it is) but there is some rule here where you can't say you didn't like the old cartoon.

I love it, though. It brings me back to my childhood, and it is just a great cartoon anyway.

I think your definatly not the only one to feel this way, though. Most people prefer the new cartoon over the old.

That Matt Guy 06-21-2004 05:44 PM

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Originally Posted by jeff the cheff
This might sound ridiculous(and it is) but there is some rule here where you can't say you didn't like the old cartoon.

That's not the rule, pal. You can't bash the old toon; such as "it sucks and the new one is way better" But saying you don't like the old toon isn't bashing.

TheRATKING 06-21-2004 06:07 PM

you should watch the first season eps there really good

Ryona 06-21-2004 06:07 PM

I think your a little too young to appreciate the old series.; that's all.
The fans who really grew up with the first wave of turtlemania are between 19 to 29, so I wouldn't expect you to have much fond memeries of back then. It's no big deal really. At least the young, new crowd gets to aknowledge and appreciate the turtles through the new second wave that we're in now, so it's all good. :anime:

Buslady 06-21-2004 06:12 PM

Re: I feel bad about asking this but....
 
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Originally Posted by Mandi-chan
Am I the only one here who doesn't like the old toon at all? I got my hands on a couple of tapes of the old toon thanks to my british buddy, I was real excited and watched it as soon as I got home but I didn't like it. I loved it as a kid but I'm 17 now. I was really disappointed and tried to like it but I just couldn't. Even if I hadn't seen the movies or the new show I'm positive I still would have disliked the old toon, it seemed too goofy and I don't like shows like that anymore. Am I the only one who feels this way? Please don't flame me! :(

Hey guess what? I don't care for the old toon, and it's what made me a tiny bit of a fan but the movie made me a BIG fan...especially of a certain guy in red...anyways the old toon...it's so freakin CORNY!!!!!!!! BUt..for what it is, the kiddie style it's done in...it's ok. My kid loves it. That's fine. I love the new toon so much more...

TheRATKING 06-21-2004 06:15 PM

i love the old toon i grew up with it, i was there from the start of it. the new shows great but the old one will just always seem right too me

Kali 06-21-2004 06:18 PM

Re: I feel bad about asking this but....
 
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Originally Posted by Mandi-chan
I loved it as a kid but I'm 17 now.

Lots of people say the same thing about the old cartoon. People change as they get older. I know I was hooked on the old show as a kid, but now, it just doesn't hold me the same way it once did.

Deathknight 06-21-2004 06:38 PM

It's funny, everyone on this forum likes the new toon better and says the old toon was crap and everyone I know in real life thinks the opposite. Personally, I love the old toon more than any other TMNT universe. Yes more than the movies, new toon, mirage, etc. Personally I like it best because I like humorous shows better than action. I think the old toon is hilarious and it gives me a lot of joy watching it. The new toon has good action in it and I enjoy the comedy in it but there are aspects I don't like. One of them being that the turtles never have a defined skill. There was the Shredder Strikes where the turtles absolutely annihilate the foot and basically just laugh it off that they're so pathetic. Then comes the Shredder Strikes Back part 2 where you would think the turtles would be equal in skill and all of them get uttely owned by the foot soldiers. Same thing in Return to New York, the turtles struggle against the foot when it's the same guys they've been fighting all along with maybe slightly better skills with the time they were gone from New York. Then there was the foot tech ninjas. In their first appearance the turtles struggle a bit but conquer them still pretty easily. Their 2nd appearance in Shredder Strikes Back, Leo struggles because he can't see them but then relies on his ears and takes them out with ease. Then comes Return to New York part 1 where the turtles and Splinter get destroyed by them. They stood no chance what so ever against them and luckily managed to short circuit them with Donatello's ninja stars. Is it just me or is that a little hard to believe? The turtles had no real skill in the old series but the series did what is meant to do. It was very funny and stood up to that in nearly every episode. I mean with the new series I guess it's exciting when the turtles struggle but I just find it boring when it clear the turtle's skills are heavily watered down to do this. Plus I'm not much of a fan of the utrom Shredder thing. I'm sorry there is 0% chance he could've survived the utrom's building imploding. For those of you think he somehow managed to escape, he wouldn't have needed to have the worms heal him if he had managed to find a way out at the last second. So in closing it just varies how you like a show. If you prefer humor then you like the old series, if you like action you like the new series/mirage/1st movie. There are people I know who actually hate the new toon and I know people who hate the old toon as well. It's all a matter of opinion. Why we have to have another discussion about this is unknown to me. I think it was best put by Karpo. (This isn't exact) "Asking what you would like best from the old show in the new show is like saying what you would like from the 60s Batman show in the newer movies." They're based on different time periods and different tastes, if you don't like one of them that's your opinion and it should be respected. However, dissing the old series/new series and other people who think it to be better is just wrong.

host_punktmy 06-21-2004 06:51 PM

honestly I think that the new toon is better in terms of better animation, and character design. The new show also has a darker edge to it compared to the old show, which I like a lot. When it comes down to it though I grew up with the old TMNT toon, and I am loyal to it.

ZariusTwo 06-21-2004 07:20 PM

Re: I feel bad about asking this but....
 
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Originally Posted by Mandi-chan
Am I the only one here who doesn't like the old toon at all?:(

If you don't like it, don't moan and whine about how "bad" it is to fans who know better

Both the original series and the new Ninja Turtles cartoon are equally good.

KROW 06-21-2004 07:28 PM

I agree, ZariusTwo. Both toons have endearing qualities.

Jasta3xB 06-21-2004 07:59 PM

I like the old better although besides the first season I havent seen any forever. Im waiting for the realease of all the old episodes so I can finally see them all again. Also, at first I reall y didnt care for the new cartoon and I started watching it again and now it seems pretty decent. Too bad I missed a crap load of them. They should release the old ones on the cartoon network or something.

KROW 06-21-2004 08:57 PM

Whao, dude, get out of the cave. Where have you been?

Do you have the first season of the 80s toon on DVD? Did you know that Arista plans on releasing the rest?

Also, go buy the new toon on DVD and catch up. :tsmile: :shredder: :kgrin:

Aaron 06-21-2004 09:04 PM

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Originally Posted by jeff the cheff
I love it, though. It brings me back to my childhood, and it is just a great cartoon anyway.

I think your definatly not the only one to feel this way, though. Most people prefer the new cartoon over the old.

Same here. I definetly prefer the old toon over the new toon though.

TheRATKING 06-21-2004 09:27 PM

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Originally Posted by KROW
Did you know that Arista plans on releasing the rest?

i didnt know they had plans as of yet to release the rest on dvd

Orochi Chimera 06-21-2004 09:40 PM

I like both shows for different reasons. They are both good shows.

Ashangelo 06-21-2004 09:47 PM

I'll always like the old cartoon, I mean I grew up with it. I'll admit it's corny but it still manages to make me laugh. But I really enjoy the new toon also.

KROW 06-21-2004 10:03 PM

Oh yeah, RATKING. You know how businesses are. They see that the TMNT are coming back so they're gonna cash in as much as they can. And you know that if they don't release them that they'll be petitioned to anyway. Either way it's inevitable.

TheRATKING 06-21-2004 10:05 PM

yes but alot of people seem to think that theres a possibility that they wont come out with the other seasons

Ashangelo 06-21-2004 10:07 PM

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Originally Posted by TheRATKING
yes but alot of people seem to think that theres a possibility that they wont come out with the other seasons

I hope they do, I don't know why they wouldn't

TheRATKING 06-21-2004 10:08 PM

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Originally Posted by TMNTluvr1
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Originally Posted by TheRATKING
yes but alot of people seem to think that theres a possibility that they wont come out with the other seasons

I hope they do, I don't know why they wouldn't

thats how i feel

Aaron 06-21-2004 10:11 PM

I still need to get the new toon dvd's. I don't have any of them yet.

TheRATKING 06-21-2004 10:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Aaron
I still need to get the new toon dvd's. I don't have any of them yet.

:o :o :o wha

Aaron 06-21-2004 10:17 PM

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Originally Posted by TheRATKING
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Originally Posted by Aaron
I still need to get the new toon dvd's. I don't have any of them yet.

:o :o :o wha

Yeah, I am behind on the modern tmnt stuff. I am don't even have the Sewer Playset yet. I plan on buying it Thursday.

KROW 06-21-2004 10:44 PM

Well, back to the old toon, they will release more. I guarantee it.

Deathknight 06-22-2004 08:27 PM

I guess my post was too long for anyone to consider reading lol.

Aaron 06-22-2004 08:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Deathknight
I guess my post was too long for anyone to consider reading lol.

I read it, I have five words to say about the part of your post talking about the bad continuity in the new show, it is just a cartoon. It doesn't have to be taken extremely seriously. It is just made to sit back and enjoy. Although like I have said before, I like the old toon better than the new toon and that is just my opinion.

ZariusTwo 06-23-2004 11:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Deathknight
I guess my post was too long for anyone to consider reading lol.

Not true, hell I've seen LONGER posts that have good reasons behind them.

You've got good points, the original series IS great, I like the new cartoon as well though and it does'nt have "bad continunity"

cqb101 06-23-2004 11:44 AM

The old toon is alright......I like Mirage, the movies and the new toon a helluva lot more, tho. Sometimes I have a ahrd time finishing an ep of the old toon...I just get so bored.

ZariusTwo 06-23-2004 11:49 AM

God this NOT the kind of discussion I like in the fandom, they don't like the original cartoon? fine, then stop dissing it, just say you don't like it, don't give reasons for it, because for every "I get bored by it" there will be another "That's Bulls*it"

I'm glad I'm one of the fans that like nearly every part of the franchise barring Image and Next Mutation, but I hate original series bashers

cqb101 06-23-2004 11:53 AM

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Originally Posted by ZariusTwo
God this NOT the kind of discussion I like in the fandom, they don't like the original cartoon? fine, then stop dissing it, just say you don't like it, don't give reasons for it, because for every "I get bored by it" there will be another "That's Bulls*it"

I'm glad I'm one of the fans that like nearly every part of the franchise barring Image and Next Mutation, but I hate original series bashers

Shut the hell up. Seriously. How is saying that sometimes(meaning certain epsiodes) I get bored bashing the old toon? I'm sorry if stating my opinion is bashing it. Why don't you take your two little warning and walk the hell out of this thread.

ZariusTwo 06-23-2004 12:02 PM

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Originally Posted by cqb101
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Originally Posted by ZariusTwo
God this NOT the kind of discussion I like in the fandom, they don't like the original cartoon? fine, then stop dissing it, just say you don't like it, don't give reasons for it, because for every "I get bored by it" there will be another "That's Bulls*it"

I'm glad I'm one of the fans that like nearly every part of the franchise barring Image and Next Mutation, but I hate original series bashers

Shut the hell up. Seriously. How is saying that sometimes(meaning certain epsiodes) I get bored bashing the old toon? I'm sorry if stating my opinion is bashing it. Why don't you take your two little warning and walk the hell out of this thread.

I was'nt offending you, just Original series bashers in general, sorry If I used your posts about "Getting Bored" with some episodes as an example, it was NOT directed to you

So I don't beleive I'm "walking out" of this thread yet buster

cqb101 06-23-2004 12:18 PM

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Originally Posted by ZariusTwo
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Originally Posted by cqb101
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Originally Posted by ZariusTwo
God this NOT the kind of discussion I like in the fandom, they don't like the original cartoon? fine, then stop dissing it, just say you don't like it, don't give reasons for it, because for every "I get bored by it" there will be another "That's Bulls*it"

I'm glad I'm one of the fans that like nearly every part of the franchise barring Image and Next Mutation, but I hate original series bashers

Shut the hell up. Seriously. How is saying that sometimes(meaning certain epsiodes) I get bored bashing the old toon? I'm sorry if stating my opinion is bashing it. Why don't you take your two little warning and walk the hell out of this thread.

I was'nt offending you, just Original series bashers in general, sorry If I used your posts about "Getting Bored" with some episodes as an example, it was NOT directed to you

So I don't beleive I'm "walking out" of this thread yet buster

Ok, cool. Just a little misunderstanding.

DrSpengler 06-23-2004 12:32 PM

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Originally Posted by ZariusTwo
God this NOT the kind of discussion I like in the fandom, they don't like the original cartoon? fine, then stop dissing it, just say you don't like it, don't give reasons for it, because for every "I get bored by it" there will be another "That's Bulls*it"

I'm glad I'm one of the fans that like nearly every part of the franchise barring Image and Next Mutation, but I hate original series bashers

So because YOU like every aspect of the TMNT universe (aside from Next Mutation and Image) so does everyone else? Your reasoning being, "If you don't like something don't say anything about it! Opinions different from my own make me mad!"?

No wonder you get so bent out of shape if anyone even considers criticising anything TMNT-related. They have to ask for your permission first.

"Is it okay if I say I don't like Next Mutation?"

"Yeah, sure. I hated that show."

"Is it okay if I say I don't like an episode of the old cartoon?"

"NO! God dammit, you prick! If you don't like it don't say anything!"

cqb101 06-23-2004 12:40 PM

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Originally Posted by DrSpengler
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Originally Posted by ZariusTwo
God this NOT the kind of discussion I like in the fandom, they don't like the original cartoon? fine, then stop dissing it, just say you don't like it, don't give reasons for it, because for every "I get bored by it" there will be another "That's Bulls*it"

I'm glad I'm one of the fans that like nearly every part of the franchise barring Image and Next Mutation, but I hate original series bashers

So because YOU like every aspect of the TMNT universe (aside from Next Mutation and Image) so does everyone else? Your reasoning being, "If you don't like something don't say anything about it! Opinions different from my own make me mad!"?

No wonder you get so bent out of shape if anyone even considers criticising anything TMNT-related. They have to ask for your permission first.

"Is it okay if I say I don't like Next Mutation?"

"Yeah, sure. I hated that show."

"Is it okay if I say I don't like an episode of the old cartoon?"

"NO! God dammit, you prick! If you don't like it don't say anything!"

Speng, calm down and leave it alone....Don't make things worse.

DrSpengler 06-23-2004 12:41 PM

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Originally Posted by cqb101

Speng, calm down and leave it alone....Don't make things worse.

Yeah, might as well. Can't get through to some people anyway.

Aaron 06-23-2004 02:06 PM

I don't really have a problem with people who hate the old show. That is their opinion and I respect it.

Kid Icarus 06-23-2004 02:22 PM

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Originally Posted by TheRATKING
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Originally Posted by KROW
Did you know that Arista plans on releasing the rest?

i didnt know they had plans as of yet to release the rest on dvd

I doubt they will, as the first DVD wasn't originaly going to be full episodes, but 'The Saga Begins' instead.


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