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Brodie 07-15-2006 01:18 AM

A Scanner Darkly
 
Has anyone gotten a chance to see this movie? I saw it tonight and enjoyed it. It was done very well, I usually dig Richard Linklater's stuff (Before Sunrise, Before Sunset).
It's better animated than The Waking Life, and has a more coherent story. It's really interesting.

Thoughts?
http://msnbcmedia.msn.com/j/msnbc/Co...kly.hlarge.jpg

DrSpengler 07-15-2006 01:31 AM

I didn't know it was already out!

Looks like I've got something to do this weekend.

Dr. Doom 07-15-2006 03:44 AM

I really wanna see it too.

Peanut 07-15-2006 11:34 AM

I didn't know it was out until yesterday. No theatres around me are showing it, so I'll probably never see it until it comes to DVD.

Brodie 07-15-2006 11:56 AM

The movie has had like 3 different release dates. If you go to the website, you can find out if it opens near you. It opened July 7th, in major cities. Then the 14th in other cities (Syracuse for me), and it should open worldwide next week, I think.

Space Lieutenant Josh 07-15-2006 12:04 PM

"Waking Life" is still a cooler looking movie. I think I read in "Wired" or something that Linklater used the same program to rotoscope both of them.

Brodie 07-15-2006 03:33 PM

I dunno, this one is easier to watch, and i think animated better.

Although I have a gripe with Waking Life, for using Ethan Hawke and the girl from Before Sunrise and Sunset in the movie. Especially as those characters.

Masked Ninja 07-16-2006 01:38 AM

I don't think you could call this "animation"... it's just filtered film footage. Either way, I don't think I'll see it.

Anarchistguy 07-16-2006 08:59 AM

It IS animation. Believe it or not, the old 1940 Superman cartoons were animated using similar ways.

Space Lieutenant Josh 07-16-2006 08:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Anarchistguy
It IS animation. Believe it or not, the old 1940 Superman cartoons were animated using similar ways.

Yeah, technically they're both rotoscoped... same with Waking Life. But where Waking Life and the old Superman cartoons were modified, this one's not too much. I've heard that the environments were added or whatever, but I kinda agree with Masked Ninja here, it seems pretty directly filtered from the film. I'll probably have to see more than the trailer to form any real opinion, though.

VaughnMichael 07-16-2006 09:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Masked Ninja
I don't think you could call this "animation"... it's just filtered film footage. Either way, I don't think I'll see it.

yea I feel the same way pluss I can't stand keanu reeves so they are batting zero with me on this one.
I've got to say way to many movies that should be direct to dvd lately are being released in big theators and good movies are being released direct to dvd....the worlds gone crazy I swear.
I also would like to add I really don't like the style of this it just reminds me of all the images I've seen people take into Adobe Illustrator.
oh well "I hope that somethin' better comes along":D

Brodie 07-16-2006 09:34 PM

You guys have to give this flick a shot, if its a Keanu thing, you barelly see him. And when you do, he barelly talks. But then again, I forget that I'm on the drome, and flicks like this get nay sayed for movies like AVP, or Pirates of the Carribean.

Jo Dawn 07-16-2006 10:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Putrescent
yea I feel the same way pluss I can't stand keanu reeves so they are batting zero with me on this one.
I've got to say way to many movies that should be direct to dvd lately are being released in big theators and good movies are being released direct to dvd....the worlds gone crazy I swear.
I also would like to add I really don't like the style of this it just reminds me of all the images I've seen people take into Adobe Illustrator.
oh well "I hope that somethin' better comes along":D

Touche! I'm not a big Reeves fan (to me, he will always be 'Bill and Ted', hehe. 'Duuuuude!!') And it just does not interest me, really.


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But then again, I forget that I'm on the drome, and flicks like this get nay sayed for movies like AVP, or Pirates of the Carribean.
Now, now... No need for that kinda attitude. Just because someone has an opinion doesn't mean you need to be like that. Please remember we all get opinions, and that being 'on the Drome' doesn't make people stupid, as your tone implied.

Love and peace all around, peoples. Love and peace. ;) :)

Dr. Doom 07-17-2006 02:35 AM

Everyone's opinion is wrong except mine. There, it's settled.

Jo Dawn 07-17-2006 09:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dr. Doom
Everyone's opinion is wrong except mine. There, it's settled.

*Throws her hands up in the air. *


Well how can I argue with that!! ;) :P

Peanut 07-17-2006 11:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dr. Doom
Everyone's opinion is wrong except mine. There, it's settled.

Yeah...see now you're just stealing off of me. Get your own gimmick, n00b.

Space Lieutenant Josh 07-17-2006 01:01 PM

I always figured that whether it was wrong or not, mine is the only opinion that matters.

Raven 07-17-2006 01:40 PM

I'll be seeing this, it looks great.

I'm not a huge fan of Reeves but I do like some of the movies he has started in.

I like the whole concept of the film, a man loosing his mind and starts to loose grasp of realilty.

DrSpengler 07-17-2006 05:02 PM

Saw it the other day. Here's my review:

http://www.filmsy.com/reviews/a-scanner-darkly/

Thought it was pretty good. Reminded me a lot of Naked Lunch, Videodrome and Jacob's Ladder.

Masked Ninja 07-18-2006 12:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Anarchistguy
It IS animation. Believe it or not, the old 1940 Superman cartoons were animated using similar ways.

As others have said... it's really not the same. Not unless someone drew the lines and all that complex shading for every single frame. It looks kinda like a vector filter on film to me... which would not be animation at all.

Kinda like there's a difference between Superman (rotoscoped = traced - and sometimes adapted, too - from film) and some of the battle scenes in Ralph Bakshi's Lord of the Rings (where you can tell they xeroxed live action, cut it out, plastered it on a cel, colored it, and there it was). Rotoscoping still requires some artistic skill - knowing where to place the lines most effectively, and good line quality.

And rotoscoping is also not to be confused with reference, which is shooting film of an actor to get an idea of how a certain action works, but not tracing it to make the final animation. Most animated films use this at least somewhere, and it's no more cheating than is looking at a picture of a okapi before trying to draw one.


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