A Scanner Darkly

*Brodie* · 07-15-2006, 01:18 AM

Has anyone gotten a chance to see this movie? I saw it tonight and enjoyed it. It was done very well, I usually dig Richard Linklater's stuff (Before Sunrise, Before Sunset).
It's better animated than The Waking Life, and has a more coherent story. It's really interesting.

Thoughts?

*DrSpengler* · 07-15-2006, 01:31 AM

I didn't know it was already out!

Looks like I've got something to do this weekend.

*Dr. Doom* · 07-15-2006, 03:44 AM

I really wanna see it too.

Peanut · 07-15-2006, 11:34 AM

I didn't know it was out until yesterday. No theatres around me are showing it, so I'll probably never see it until it comes to DVD.

*Brodie* · 07-15-2006, 11:56 AM

The movie has had like 3 different release dates. If you go to the website, you can find out if it opens near you. It opened July 7th, in major cities. Then the 14th in other cities (Syracuse for me), and it should open worldwide next week, I think.

Space Lieutenant Josh · 07-15-2006, 12:04 PM

"Waking Life" is still a cooler looking movie. I think I read in "Wired" or something that Linklater used the same program to rotoscope both of them.

*Brodie* · 07-15-2006, 03:33 PM

I dunno, this one is easier to watch, and i think animated better.

Although I have a gripe with Waking Life, for using Ethan Hawke and the girl from Before Sunrise and Sunset in the movie. Especially as those characters.

*Masked Ninja* · 07-16-2006, 01:38 AM

I don't think you could call this "animation"... it's just filtered film footage. Either way, I don't think I'll see it.

*Anarchistguy* · 07-16-2006, 08:59 AM

It IS animation. Believe it or not, the old 1940 Superman cartoons were animated using similar ways.

Space Lieutenant Josh · 07-16-2006, 08:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Anarchistguy

It IS animation. Believe it or not, the old 1940 Superman cartoons were animated using similar ways.

Yeah, technically they're both rotoscoped... same with Waking Life. But where Waking Life and the old Superman cartoons were modified, this one's not too much. I've heard that the environments were added or whatever, but I kinda agree with Masked Ninja here, it seems pretty directly filtered from the film. I'll probably have to see more than the trailer to form any real opinion, though.

*VaughnMichael* · 07-16-2006, 09:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Masked Ninja

I don't think you could call this "animation"... it's just filtered film footage. Either way, I don't think I'll see it.

yea I feel the same way pluss I can't stand keanu reeves so they are batting zero with me on this one.
I've got to say way to many movies that should be direct to dvd lately are being released in big theators and good movies are being released direct to dvd....the worlds gone crazy I swear.
I also would like to add I really don't like the style of this it just reminds me of all the images I've seen people take into Adobe Illustrator.
oh well "I hope that somethin' better comes along"

*Brodie* · 07-16-2006, 09:34 PM

You guys have to give this flick a shot, if its a Keanu thing, you barelly see him. And when you do, he barelly talks. But then again, I forget that I'm on the drome, and flicks like this get nay sayed for movies like AVP, or Pirates of the Carribean.

**Jo Dawn** · 07-16-2006, 10:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Putrescent

yea I feel the same way pluss I can't stand keanu reeves so they are batting zero with me on this one.
I've got to say way to many movies that should be direct to dvd lately are being released in big theators and good movies are being released direct to dvd....the worlds gone crazy I swear.
I also would like to add I really don't like the style of this it just reminds me of all the images I've seen people take into Adobe Illustrator.
oh well "I hope that somethin' better comes along"

Touche! I'm not a big Reeves fan (to me, he will always be 'Bill and Ted', hehe. 'Duuuuude!!') And it just does not interest me, really.

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But then again, I forget that I'm on the drome, and flicks like this get nay sayed for movies like AVP, or Pirates of the Carribean.

Now, now... No need for that kinda attitude. Just because someone has an opinion doesn't mean you need to be like that. Please remember we all get opinions, and that being 'on the Drome' doesn't make people stupid, as your tone implied.

Love and peace all around, peoples. Love and peace.

*Dr. Doom* · 07-17-2006, 02:35 AM

Everyone's opinion is wrong except mine. There, it's settled.

**Jo Dawn** · 07-17-2006, 09:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Dr. Doom

Everyone's opinion is wrong except mine. There, it's settled.

*Throws her hands up in the air. *

Well how can I argue with that!!

Peanut · 07-17-2006, 11:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Dr. Doom

Everyone's opinion is wrong except mine. There, it's settled.

Yeah...see now you're just stealing off of me. Get your own gimmick, n00b.

Space Lieutenant Josh · 07-17-2006, 01:01 PM

I always figured that whether it was wrong or not, mine is the only opinion that matters.

*Raven* · 07-17-2006, 01:40 PM

I'll be seeing this, it looks great.

I'm not a huge fan of Reeves but I do like some of the movies he has started in.

I like the whole concept of the film, a man loosing his mind and starts to loose grasp of realilty.

*DrSpengler* · 07-17-2006, 05:02 PM

Saw it the other day. Here's my review:

http://www.filmsy.com/reviews/a-scanner-darkly/

Thought it was pretty good. Reminded me a lot of Naked Lunch, Videodrome and Jacob's Ladder.

*Masked Ninja* · 07-18-2006, 12:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Anarchistguy

It IS animation. Believe it or not, the old 1940 Superman cartoons were animated using similar ways.

As others have said... it's really not the same. Not unless someone drew the lines and all that complex shading for every single frame. It looks kinda like a vector filter on film to me... which would not be animation at all.

Kinda like there's a difference between Superman (rotoscoped = traced - and sometimes adapted, too - from film) and some of the battle scenes in Ralph Bakshi's Lord of the Rings (where you can tell they xeroxed live action, cut it out, plastered it on a cel, colored it, and there it was). Rotoscoping still requires some artistic skill - knowing where to place the lines most effectively, and good line quality.

And rotoscoping is also not to be confused with reference, which is shooting film of an actor to get an idea of how a certain action works, but not tracing it to make the final animation. Most animated films use this at least somewhere, and it's no more cheating than is looking at a picture of a okapi before trying to draw one.

07-15-2006, 01:18 AM	#1
Brodie Certified Teacher Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Bizarro Metropolis Posts: 6,495	A Scanner Darkly Has anyone gotten a chance to see this movie? I saw it tonight and enjoyed it. It was done very well, I usually dig Richard Linklater's stuff (Before Sunrise, Before Sunset). It's better animated than The Waking Life, and has a more coherent story. It's really interesting. Thoughts? __________________ Stupendous Monster

07-15-2006, 03:44 AM	#3
Dr. Doom Allons-y! Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Castle Doom Posts: 4,535	I really wanna see it too. __________________ I love you, Pickle.

07-15-2006, 11:56 AM	#5
Brodie Certified Teacher Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Bizarro Metropolis Posts: 6,495	The movie has had like 3 different release dates. If you go to the website, you can find out if it opens near you. It opened July 7th, in major cities. Then the 14th in other cities (Syracuse for me), and it should open worldwide next week, I think. __________________ Stupendous Monster

07-15-2006, 03:33 PM	#7
Brodie Certified Teacher Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Bizarro Metropolis Posts: 6,495	I dunno, this one is easier to watch, and i think animated better. Although I have a gripe with Waking Life, for using Ethan Hawke and the girl from Before Sunrise and Sunset in the movie. Especially as those characters. __________________ Stupendous Monster

07-16-2006, 08:59 AM	#9
Anarchistguy Mad Scientist Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Canada (This country is too peaceful, Something's up...) Posts: 2,137	It IS animation. Believe it or not, the old 1940 Superman cartoons were animated using similar ways. __________________ M.D.K. Maim! Destroy! Kill!!! "When my time comes, I wanna be buried face down, so those who don't like me can kiss my ass!"

07-15-2006, 01:31 AM	#2
DrSpengler Foot Elite Join Date: May 2003 Posts: 4,842	I didn't know it was already out! Looks like I've got something to do this weekend.

07-15-2006, 11:34 AM	#4
Peanut Second Gear Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: The New World Posts: 15,422	I didn't know it was out until yesterday. No theatres around me are showing it, so I'll probably never see it until it comes to DVD.

07-15-2006, 12:04 PM	#6
Space Lieutenant Josh Hench Mutant Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Village of Rock'n Kick-Ass Posts: 492	"Waking Life" is still a cooler looking movie. I think I read in "Wired" or something that Linklater used the same program to rotoscope both of them.

07-16-2006, 01:38 AM	#8
Masked Ninja Doodles TMNT for fun Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: sploshin' through some sewer... Posts: 2,137	I don't think you could call this "animation"... it's just filtered film footage. Either way, I don't think I'll see it.

07-16-2006, 09:34 PM	#12
Brodie Certified Teacher Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Bizarro Metropolis Posts: 6,495	You guys have to give this flick a shot, if its a Keanu thing, you barelly see him. And when you do, he barelly talks. But then again, I forget that I'm on the drome, and flicks like this get nay sayed for movies like AVP, or Pirates of the Carribean. __________________ Stupendous Monster

07-17-2006, 02:35 AM	#14
Dr. Doom Allons-y! Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Castle Doom Posts: 4,535	Everyone's opinion is wrong except mine. There, it's settled. __________________ I love you, Pickle.

07-17-2006, 01:01 PM	#17
Space Lieutenant Josh Hench Mutant Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Village of Rock'n Kick-Ass Posts: 492	I always figured that whether it was wrong or not, mine is the only opinion that matters.

07-17-2006, 01:40 PM	#18
Raven follower of Jesus Join Date: Feb 2003 Posts: 6,212	I'll be seeing this, it looks great. I'm not a huge fan of Reeves but I do like some of the movies he has started in. I like the whole concept of the film, a man loosing his mind and starts to loose grasp of realilty. __________________ TMNT Future Despair Deviant Offical Ultimate Ninja Turtles Site!

07-17-2006, 05:02 PM	#19
DrSpengler Foot Elite Join Date: May 2003 Posts: 4,842	Saw it the other day. Here's my review: http://www.filmsy.com/reviews/a-scanner-darkly/ Thought it was pretty good. Reminded me a lot of Naked Lunch, Videodrome and Jacob's Ladder.