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Leonardo_Warrior_Turtle 12-21-2006 09:11 PM

4kids is clearly up to something with the Lost Season.
 
Okay....4kids is obviously trying to confuse us all with what they want to do.

First off, they retool TMNT into this kid-friendly "spin-off" called Fast Forward. Bascially ignoring the foundations they set in stone in the season 4 finale 'Ninja Tribunal'.

Next, they actually reveal that animation and work has been done on the Lost Season episodes and will be completed. A DVD set of the episodes is announced. They end up putting some of the episodes On Demand. Turtles fans rejoice! 2k3 isn't dead...or is it?

Then, they stop putting the Lost Season episodes On Demand. The DVD set is officially postponed in the US to get ready for the Fast Forward release. So is that "postponed" or "cancelled"? Well, actually it's coming in March....in Austraila and New Zealand. Oh no! Will 4kids actually finish the Lost Season episodes for us to see?

Then, we hear that the first season of Fast Forward get's broken into two parts. (The first half just finished airing.) The DVD set is forthcoming. What's going on?

Well, 'The Journal' comes along and shakes EVERYTHING up. With some things that actually tie into the Lost Season episodes we already seen but not everyone has! (Remember, the Lost Season episodes were not aired like any other TMNT 2k3 episodes were. So not everyone saw them.) My point is that if they were actually going to complete can the Ninja Tribunal episodes, then why would they show stuff that obviously take place afterwards in an episode of Fast Forward?

My theory is this. And their are probably a few who share this. Since season one of Fast Forward got hacked into two pieces, perhaps 4kids WILL air all the Lost Season episodes sometime early next year. It adds up! This episode gives that theory more juice than ever before! I mean, just add up the math! The probability just skyrocketed! Maybe we don't have to wait for March to import after all. Could the Lost Season be heading our way starting in January? This episode clearly points us into that distinctive direction.

ThemanthatwouldbeRaphael 12-21-2006 11:05 PM

Or they could just be assholes who dont know whwat to do with a great property.

Still, your views are nice.

Spitfire 12-22-2006 04:02 AM

Well when they made the 100th episode the Don Monster one and not Tales Of Yoshi like it was supposed to be I figured they had their head up their asses. The the order of DVD episodes suggests so as well.

gobo 12-22-2006 08:30 AM

But, all the anti-4Kids sentiments will only make them less willing to cooperate with the fans. Don't you think?

CyberCubed 12-22-2006 11:15 AM

I'm still amazed that people think 4kids won't want to make money off the Lost season.

Do you know how much money they spent on the animation, scripts and editing on those 12 episodes? Why in the world would they waste that money if they didn't want to sell them?

They'll be released eventually on a DVD boxset, (along with the finale of Season 4 since that's not on DVD yet), or aired on TV, or both.

ThemanthatwouldbeRaphael 12-22-2006 12:43 PM

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Originally Posted by gobo (Post 449469)
But, all the anti-4Kids sentiments will only make them less willing to cooperate with the fans. Don't you think?

It's not like they're gonna come in here and see this, they're too afraid of the fans.

gobo 12-22-2006 12:58 PM

Point taken...
*heads back to his desk at 4Kids Entertainment*
:goof:

iris 12-22-2006 02:04 PM

Leo Warrior Turtle, I had thought of that too, since it would be a waste to have made the episodes and not market it to the 'States in some way, but 4Kids is very unpredictable.
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Originally Posted by gobo (Post 449509)
Point taken...
*heads back to his desk at 4Kids Entertainment*
:goof:

:teek:

Wait, if you're not at your own desk, whose computer are you using? LOL

I really wish they hadn't named their company "4Kids". That name really aggravates me-- and no, it's not because I'm a so-called adult. [/random complaint]

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Originally Posted by ThemanthatwouldbeRaphael (Post 449501)
It's not like they're gonna come in here and see this, they're too afraid of the fans.

Nah, companies often pay attention to forums, but they tend not to look too far past their own. If ninjaturtles.com had its own forums, they'd look at that too. The reason they pay more attention these days? In addition to market research, journalists look at forums, and sometimes quote them in their articles.

Spitfire 12-22-2006 03:52 PM

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Originally Posted by CyberCubed (Post 449486)
I'm still amazed that people think 4kids won't want to make money off the Lost season.

Do you know how much money they spent on the animation, scripts and editing on those 12 episodes? Why in the world would they waste that money if they didn't want to sell them?

They'll be released eventually on a DVD boxset, (along with the finale of Season 4 since that's not on DVD yet), or aired on TV, or both.

I thought Laird sprung the bill for TLS because 4Kids wouldn't

gobo 12-22-2006 09:10 PM

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Originally Posted by iris (Post 449515)
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Originally Posted by gobo (Post 449509)
Point taken...
*heads back to his desk at 4Kids Entertainment*
:goof:

:teek:

Wait, if you're not at your own desk, whose computer are you using? LOL

:evil: :evil: :flaming: :evil: :evil: :flaming: :evil: :evil:

Warhorse 12-22-2006 09:14 PM

You think 4kids is waiting to see what the release of the new movie will do to the TMNT franchise?

iris 12-22-2006 09:57 PM

I think they'd be stupid not to-- if they're thinking of dropping TMNT.

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Originally Posted by gobo (Post 449588)
:evil: :evil: :flaming: :evil: :evil: :flaming: :evil: :evil:

Wha... er... what I meant to say was... um... boy you really must have a lot of offices and computers to go with your high-level position at 4KE! :embarass: :sweatdro:

gobo 12-22-2006 10:16 PM

:lol: :P :D

tortugapower 12-22-2006 11:08 PM

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Originally Posted by ThemanthatwouldbeRaphael (Post 449501)
It's not like they're gonna come in here and see this, they're too afraid of the fans.

HA! Nope!

There are probably a number of 4Kids people who look at these boards - and they may even post once in awhile!

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Originally Posted by gobo (Post 449509)
Point taken...
*heads back to his desk at 4Kids Entertainment*
:goof:

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Originally Posted by gobo (Post 449597)
:lol: :P :D

HA! Jokes! I get jokes!
Spoiler:
Seriously get up you're in my chair and i have stuff to do.


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Originally Posted by Warhorse (Post 449589)
You think 4kids is waiting to see what the release of the new movie will do to the TMNT franchise?

Yes.

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Originally Posted by Leonardo_Warrior_Turtle (Post 449411)
Okay....4kids is obviously trying to confuse us all with what they want to do.

My theory is this. And their are probably a few who share this. Since season one of Fast Forward got hacked into two pieces, perhaps 4kids WILL air all the Lost Season episodes sometime early next year. It adds up! This episode gives that theory more juice than ever before! I mean, just add up the math! The probability just skyrocketed! Maybe we don't have to wait for March to import after all. Could the Lost Season be heading our way starting in January? This episode clearly points us into that distinctive direction.

They are not trying to confuse us, their plate is full with a number of other things right now (other shows, Fast Forward and the movie to start...) and these episodes were written before the decision to pull the "Lost Season" was made final.

It will not be out in January. It will get released one way or another though.

I think there is a much larger issue at hand here however:

They should re-release TMNT cereal. Picking out all the marshmellows in a box of lucky charms and mixing them with chex is not the same (and a hassle).



Also ninja turtle pies. DELICIOUS!

gobo 12-23-2006 12:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tortugapower (Post 449612)
Quote:

Originally Posted by gobo (Post 449509)
Point taken...
*heads back to his desk at 4Kids Entertainment*
:goof:

HA! Jokes! I get jokes!
Spoiler:
Seriously get up you're in my chair and i have stuff to do.

"Why y'all gotta waste my flava? Damn!"
Let's play 'guess the quote'! ^_^

X 12-23-2006 01:21 PM

Gobo that would be from Can't Hardly Wait. Seth Greens line. Pretty funny line, don't know if I like the movie as much as I did when it first hit theatres when I was 18 or 19.

-X-

ThemanthatwouldbeRaphael 12-23-2006 02:05 PM

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Originally Posted by tortugapower (Post 449612)
HA! Nope!

There are probably a number of 4Kids people who look at these boards - and they may even post once in awhile!

Oh, well, um, did I call you guys assholes? Well, uh, what I meant was....that you guys are........eh, I got nothing. Sorry.

clockstomper 12-23-2006 02:52 PM

If they do end up using the Lost Season the show is over. It'll be a free way to milk the franchise for 6 to 8 months. They probably won't pay for further production of the series.

It's for the best I guess...after a season of pastel colors and censorship, there's no way they'd be allowed go back to the way things were.

As for 4Kids, they've made it clear from the other shows they've ruined that they only care about the bottom line. If you want to save the show, write to Peter Laird and tell him the show is worth fighting for! Also, make sure the movie succeeds...show 4Kids this is a profitable franchise when done right!

MrPliggins 12-26-2006 05:59 PM

It's true they care about the bottom line. It's a pretty simple idea really. New episodes aren't being produced at the moment. They aren't ready to produce new episodes because they are still unsure whether they want to cancel or not.
Hey wait- they can split the FF season...that'll give 'em another year to decide...or wait- they can cancel the release of TLS... which they could use if they need even more time to decide. Yeah, good idea...

Chris 12-30-2006 11:36 PM

I think that Leonardo_Warrior_Turtle is right.

I've said it before but I think 4Kids could have split Fast Forward and pulled Lost Season from DVD so they can air the LS episodes next year to coincide with the new movie.

If they don't do this then there will be a LOT of repeats between now and the start of Season 6/FF Season 2.

I'm thinking something like this;
Sept-Dec 06 - FF Season 1
Feb 07 - FF Season 1 DVD
Mar 07 - TMNT Movie
Mar-Apr 07 - Lost Season
Sept 07 - Lost Season DVD (or earlier or later depending on when Movie DVD released)
Sept-Dec 07 - FF Season 2
Feb 08 - FF Season 2 DVD


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