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ZariusTwo 09-29-2008 09:05 PM

Anyone Think "Corproate Raiders" Was A Commentary On Scientology?
 
I just finished watching it again, and if what I think of it now is accurate, it's shot up from number six in my top ten to number two. The whole quasi Xenu-esque "Grand Arising", weathly members, brainwashing....

..Sensetive subject of course, so tread carefully

Scandia 09-29-2008 09:21 PM

Any and every cult in general. Not necessarily Scientology specifically.

Jester 09-29-2008 09:40 PM

It's all about Scientology. It's a well know fact that Clint Eastwood was once a big man in the faith, thus Casey being brain washed.


That was a joke, btw. :P

ZariusTwo 09-29-2008 10:27 PM

What cult isnt?:lol:

Original TMNT Cartoon Fan 09-30-2008 07:36 AM

Propaganda
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ZariusTwo (Post 637137)
What cult isnt?:lol:

It look like it's about propaganda and brainwashing in general, whatever it's religious, political, economic or philosophic. Brainwashing is in much science fiction. But it's also about capitalism.

KROW 09-30-2008 07:03 PM

Watching it for the first time, no. I was just thrilled to see Casey again. Watching it later in syndication, still no. But, after seeing it again as recently as last week, I did pick up the similarities... and found them damn funny.

As far as the episode being a direct commentary on Scientology, I really couldn't say.

Mr._Mutant_Man 09-30-2008 11:19 PM

I doubt it was addressing Scientology exactly. Scientology has not really been a hot issue for very long, only for about the last few years when Tom Cruise started acting crazy.

ZariusTwo 10-01-2008 01:48 AM

Actually, it's been a recurringly frequent big deal. They had a small boost in the 1980s

Original TMNT Cartoon Fan 10-01-2008 06:52 AM

1990's
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr._Mutant_Man (Post 637441)
I doubt it was addressing Scientology exactly. Scientology has not really been a hot issue for very long, only for about the last few years when Tom Cruise started acting crazy.

Wasn't scientology a hot issue in the 1990's (even if this episode first aired in 1989).

Drtooth 10-01-2008 09:26 AM

Off hand, maybe....

I took a lot of it as a commentary on corporate America.... you know, how companies are bought up by larger companies, and they change their practices to something that's not so wholesome...

Spoiler:
What really makes me doubt it is that they didn't go apescat and try to shut down Mirage, Fred Wolf Films, or the syndication distributer.

Original TMNT Cartoon Fan 10-01-2008 10:06 AM

Political
 
It's one of the more political episodes, but all "good VS evil" fictional stories are somehow political, since the bad guys always want to rule the world).

ToTheNines 10-01-2008 02:37 PM

Lol, I never would have made this connection, but I do agree Zarius. David Wise wrote it, if anyone ever gets an interview with him we should ask.

ZariusTwo 10-01-2008 07:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by J 1982 (Post 637510)
It's one of the more political episodes, but all "good VS evil" fictional stories are somehow political, since the bad guys always want to rule the world).

Actually, the events of "The Big Blow-Out" all but gurantee Krang's Taliban were gonna waste the world.

Jelly Bean 10-01-2008 10:26 PM

er, I guess I'll be a boob and ask what "Scientology" is. because I have no idea what the meaning is or how it's talked about.

ZariusTwo 10-01-2008 10:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jelly Bean (Post 637645)
er, I guess I'll be a boob and ask what "Scientology" is. because I have no idea what the meaning is or how it's talked about.

Wow. Just...wow.

It's only the most hated religion/cult in the world right now




Original TMNT Cartoon Fan 10-02-2008 06:55 AM

Jim Jones
 
But in the 1970's and 1980's a lot of sects were around, like http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jim_Jones. (Many young people entered the sects). And in the 1990's a lot of sects were around like that Comet Hale-Bopp sect and many millennium sects. It has always existed.

Drtooth 10-02-2008 01:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ToTheNines (Post 637566)
Lol, I never would have made this connection, but I do agree Zarius. David Wise wrote it, if anyone ever gets an interview with him we should ask.

Yeah... but if he reveals that it was, there's a very good chance he could be blacklisted or something.

I'm gonna have to watch this again later and check it out, now that I k now what to look for....

Though:

Spoiler:
If it really was a commentary, they should have had a random celebrity shilling like crazy for Octopus Inc.... sounds like a good fan fic to me...

Original TMNT Cartoon Fan 10-02-2008 03:56 PM

Shredderville
 
And "Shredderville" can be seen as a commentary on dictatorship states.

Mr._Mutant_Man 10-05-2008 12:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Drtooth (Post 637496)
Off hand, maybe....

I took a lot of it as a commentary on corporate America.... you know, how companies are bought up by larger companies, and they change their practices to something that's not so wholesome...

Spoiler:
What really makes me doubt it is that they didn't go apescat and try to shut down Mirage, Fred Wolf Films, or the syndication distributer.

I agree. It was probably an exaggeration of the effects of corporate America. Kind of an embellished way to say that in everyone's attempts to make it to the top they may become "brainwashed" by the pursuit of getting up the corporate ladder.

Original TMNT Cartoon Fan 10-06-2008 06:50 AM

Other 1980's shows
 
Is their any plot like this in any other 1980's shows (cartoons)?


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