Anyone Think "Corproate Raiders" Was A Commentary On Scientology?

*ZariusTwo* · 09-29-2008, 09:05 PM

I just finished watching it again, and if what I think of it now is accurate, it's shot up from number six in my top ten to number two. The whole quasi Xenu-esque "Grand Arising", weathly members, brainwashing....

..Sensetive subject of course, so tread carefully

*Scandia* · 09-29-2008, 09:21 PM

Any and every cult in general. Not necessarily Scientology specifically.

**Jester** · 09-29-2008, 09:40 PM

It's all about Scientology. It's a well know fact that Clint Eastwood was once a big man in the faith, thus Casey being brain washed.

That was a joke, btw.

*ZariusTwo* · 09-29-2008, 10:27 PM

What cult isnt?

*Original TMNT Cartoon Fan* · 09-30-2008, 07:36 AM

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Originally Posted by ZariusTwo

What cult isnt?

It look like it's about propaganda and brainwashing in general, whatever it's religious, political, economic or philosophic. Brainwashing is in much science fiction. But it's also about capitalism.

*KROW* · 09-30-2008, 07:03 PM

Watching it for the first time, no. I was just thrilled to see Casey again. Watching it later in syndication, still no. But, after seeing it again as recently as last week, I did pick up the similarities... and found them damn funny.

As far as the episode being a direct commentary on Scientology, I really couldn't say.

*Mr._Mutant_Man* · 09-30-2008, 11:19 PM

I doubt it was addressing Scientology exactly. Scientology has not really been a hot issue for very long, only for about the last few years when Tom Cruise started acting crazy.

*ZariusTwo* · 10-01-2008, 01:48 AM

Actually, it's been a recurringly frequent big deal. They had a small boost in the 1980s

*Original TMNT Cartoon Fan* · 10-01-2008, 06:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Mr._Mutant_Man

I doubt it was addressing Scientology exactly. Scientology has not really been a hot issue for very long, only for about the last few years when Tom Cruise started acting crazy.

Wasn't scientology a hot issue in the 1990's (even if this episode first aired in 1989).

*Drtooth* · 10-01-2008, 09:26 AM

Off hand, maybe....

I took a lot of it as a commentary on corporate America.... you know, how companies are bought up by larger companies, and they change their practices to something that's not so wholesome...

Spoiler:

*Original TMNT Cartoon Fan* · 10-01-2008, 10:06 AM

It's one of the more political episodes, but all "good VS evil" fictional stories are somehow political, since the bad guys always want to rule the world).

*ToTheNines* · 10-01-2008, 02:37 PM

Lol, I never would have made this connection, but I do agree Zarius. David Wise wrote it, if anyone ever gets an interview with him we should ask.

*ZariusTwo* · 10-01-2008, 07:12 PM

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Originally Posted by J 1982

It's one of the more political episodes, but all "good VS evil" fictional stories are somehow political, since the bad guys always want to rule the world).

Actually, the events of "The Big Blow-Out" all but gurantee Krang's Taliban were gonna waste the world.

Jelly Bean · 10-01-2008, 10:26 PM

er, I guess I'll be a boob and ask what "Scientology" is. because I have no idea what the meaning is or how it's talked about.

*ZariusTwo* · 10-01-2008, 10:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Jelly Bean

er, I guess I'll be a boob and ask what "Scientology" is. because I have no idea what the meaning is or how it's talked about.

Wow. Just...wow.

It's only the most hated religion/cult in the world right now

*Original TMNT Cartoon Fan* · 10-02-2008, 06:55 AM

But in the 1970's and 1980's a lot of sects were around, like http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jim_Jones. (Many young people entered the sects). And in the 1990's a lot of sects were around like that Comet Hale-Bopp sect and many millennium sects. It has always existed.

*Drtooth* · 10-02-2008, 01:34 PM

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Originally Posted by ToTheNines

Lol, I never would have made this connection, but I do agree Zarius. David Wise wrote it, if anyone ever gets an interview with him we should ask.

Yeah... but if he reveals that it was, there's a very good chance he could be blacklisted or something.

I'm gonna have to watch this again later and check it out, now that I k now what to look for....

Though:

Spoiler:

*Original TMNT Cartoon Fan* · 10-02-2008, 03:56 PM

And "Shredderville" can be seen as a commentary on dictatorship states.

*Mr._Mutant_Man* · 10-05-2008, 12:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Drtooth

Off hand, maybe....

I took a lot of it as a commentary on corporate America.... you know, how companies are bought up by larger companies, and they change their practices to something that's not so wholesome...

Spoiler:

I agree. It was probably an exaggeration of the effects of corporate America. Kind of an embellished way to say that in everyone's attempts to make it to the top they may become "brainwashed" by the pursuit of getting up the corporate ladder.

*Original TMNT Cartoon Fan* · 10-06-2008, 06:50 AM

Is their any plot like this in any other 1980's shows (cartoons)?

09-29-2008, 09:05 PM	#1
ZariusTwo Overlord Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Britain, DINO THUNDER...POWER UP! Posts: 22,479	Anyone Think "Corproate Raiders" Was A Commentary On Scientology? I just finished watching it again, and if what I think of it now is accurate, it's shot up from number six in my top ten to number two. The whole quasi Xenu-esque "Grand Arising", weathly members, brainwashing.... ..Sensetive subject of course, so tread carefully __________________ Spider-Man: The Rescue Spider-Man: The Galloping Cat Spider-Man: Scarlet Mirror Doctor Who: Child of the Daleks

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Scandia Mad Scientist Join Date: May 2007 Location: Florida Posts: 2,265	Any and every cult in general. Not necessarily Scientology specifically. __________________ Turtles fight with honor!!!

09-29-2008, 09:40 PM	#3
Jester Rat-faced Dude-guy Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Arkansas Posts: 26,300	It's all about Scientology. It's a well know fact that Clint Eastwood was once a big man in the faith, thus Casey being brain washed. That was a joke, btw. __________________ "Clearly, you're Ninja Turtling incorrectly." - Leo656

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ZariusTwo Overlord Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Britain, DINO THUNDER...POWER UP! Posts: 22,479	What cult isnt? __________________ Spider-Man: The Rescue Spider-Man: The Galloping Cat Spider-Man: Scarlet Mirror Doctor Who: Child of the Daleks

09-30-2008, 07:03 PM	#6
KROW Meat-n-Potatoes Man Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: State's Anus, NY Posts: 6,472	Watching it for the first time, no. I was just thrilled to see Casey again. Watching it later in syndication, still no. But, after seeing it again as recently as last week, I did pick up the similarities... and found them damn funny. As far as the episode being a direct commentary on Scientology, I really couldn't say. __________________ - Optimus Acid Trip - Cult of a Half-Shell - Raiden's Bitter Tongue - *I don't try to be funny; I fail at it naturally.*

09-30-2008, 11:19 PM	#7
Mr._Mutant_Man Mad Scientist Join Date: Dec 2003 Posts: 2,340	I doubt it was addressing Scientology exactly. Scientology has not really been a hot issue for very long, only for about the last few years when Tom Cruise started acting crazy.

10-01-2008, 01:48 AM	#8
ZariusTwo Overlord Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Britain, DINO THUNDER...POWER UP! Posts: 22,479	Actually, it's been a recurringly frequent big deal. They had a small boost in the 1980s __________________ Spider-Man: The Rescue Spider-Man: The Galloping Cat Spider-Man: Scarlet Mirror Doctor Who: Child of the Daleks

10-01-2008, 09:26 AM	#10
Drtooth Foot Elite Join Date: Dec 2003 Posts: 4,439	Off hand, maybe.... I took a lot of it as a commentary on corporate America.... you know, how companies are bought up by larger companies, and they change their practices to something that's not so wholesome... Spoiler: What really makes me doubt it is that they didn't go apescat and try to shut down Mirage, Fred Wolf Films, or the syndication distributer. __________________ [Insert mildly amusing banner here]

10-01-2008, 10:06 AM	#11
Original TMNT Cartoon Fan Overlord Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Sweden Posts: 10,481	Political It's one of the more political episodes, but all "good VS evil" fictional stories are somehow political, since the bad guys always want to rule the world).

10-01-2008, 02:37 PM	#12
ToTheNines Col. Stinkmeaner Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 19,341	Lol, I never would have made this connection, but I do agree Zarius. David Wise wrote it, if anyone ever gets an interview with him we should ask.

10-02-2008, 06:55 AM	#16
Original TMNT Cartoon Fan Overlord Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Sweden Posts: 10,481	Jim Jones But in the 1970's and 1980's a lot of sects were around, like http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jim_Jones. (Many young people entered the sects). And in the 1990's a lot of sects were around like that Comet Hale-Bopp sect and many millennium sects. It has always existed.

10-02-2008, 03:56 PM	#18
Original TMNT Cartoon Fan Overlord Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Sweden Posts: 10,481	Shredderville And "Shredderville" can be seen as a commentary on dictatorship states.

10-06-2008, 06:50 AM	#20
Original TMNT Cartoon Fan Overlord Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Sweden Posts: 10,481	Other 1980's shows Is their any plot like this in any other 1980's shows (cartoons)? Last edited by Original TMNT Cartoon Fan; 10-08-2008 at 07:08 AM.