TMNT Movie 2, Casey Jones, ...?
 

Hey guys,

Just wondering why they didn't integrate Casey Jones in the second live movie? I mean, was it because it didn't come along in the story line, the actor refused the role, took out his character as they found he was to " violent " for the second movie ( as we all know, it was mostly directed to a younger audience), etc.

I was just wondering if anybody knew something I don't.

Thanks,
Ron

Apparently parents complained he was too reminiscent of Jason Voorhees or something.

Because we needed Keno, the pizza delivery boy!

Jason Voorhees
 

Who cares? I didn't even know who Jason Voorhees was at that time, just thought Casey Jones was the original.

Haha! Now that would have been interesting....:lol:
You could have Shredder as Hannibal Lecter! They have a similar face-plate...

Isn't it true that with the 2nd movie they were trying to focus on the original ninja turtles cartoon before the episode that introduced Casey Jones? That's why the turtles didn't use their weapons and Michelangelo made so many jokes?

1989
 

Casey Jones first appeared in the 1987 cartoon during season 3 (1989) with the episode "Casey Jones: Outlaw Hero". But that episode didn't play a very important role in that cartoon.

You guys have any proof for these claims or are they assumptions? You don't often see the format of a successful movie changed just because a few people complained. Controversy breeds more ticket sales.

Very true, and I'm sure that much of this is indeed speculation. But how much of the early 90s do you recall, Spit? Things were more than just a little PC and it seems that any lame ass parental/religious/what-have-you group with a ridiculous complaint tended to get their way. Even big business bowed down before the moral crusaders much of the time.

The third
 

And it was even worse in the third with the lack of the TMNT's weapon use.

Not enough I guess. I don't remember it being that bad, course my memories of the early 90's are fuzzy. All I know is kids movies and shows got away with a hell of a lot more then they do now.

Heck Mikey's nunchucks were 86ed because of parental complaints, and it wasn't even Americans. I'm sure that the movie was toned down due to complaints from soccer moms, but I'm not sure that's why TMNT 2 lacked Casey.

Yeah, the only turtle that used his weapon against the foot soldiers was Donatello. Also, he used it against Tokka. Also at the lab with the foot, Leo uses those training sticks against the foot and not his swords.

Fighting did happen (obviously) but very brief.

I thought TMNT III brought back weapon use?

Violence
 

Yes, but it was never in such a violent way as Mirage. And "Next Mutation" had not much weapon use.

If you watch "Behind the Shells" (which I used to have on VHS), I vaguely remember PL saying something about parents complaining about weapons and violence.

Leo used his swords in the mall, but he threw them into the ceiling. Fail!

TMNT III and Next Mutation were, overall, lesser quality than the first 2 movies. Could the absence of weapon use be blamed on a smaller budget? Crappier costumes which didn't allow for weapons manipulation? Actors who didn't have the ability to wield weapons, and no one to train them? Maybe there were logistical problems in addition to parental outcry.

Elias Koteas is most likely responsible for no Casey in the second movie. The turn around for the second movie was like a year from the first one. Elias had 4 other movies in 1990 besides turtles. He probably couldn't make room in his schedule for TMNT 2. TMNT 3 came out a couple years later so he was able to do that one.