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Andrew NDB 05-17-2009 08:11 PM

"If you're a TMNT fan, you're a fanatic and have to buy all the toys!" (Newsarama)
 
http://www.newsarama.com/tv/090514-a...s-tmnt-25.html

It's the video that's linked there that's a little angering.

"If you're a TMNT fan, you're hardcore, a fanatic, and you want everything!"

Who the f*** does this guy think he is?

CyberCubed 05-17-2009 08:15 PM

Hm, he called April a "old toon creation" whereas he really should have said "reporter April," not April herself.

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Originally Posted by article
As it stands, the original series did last a very impressive nine seasons, first in syndication then on CBS. While the next shot at a Turtles revival will be live-action, don't be surprised if, sooner or later, the Turtles come back in some new animated incarnation. In the meantime, Lionsgate continues to put out the original series in DVD form.

Hm...this almost sounds as if the guy didn't even know about the 4kids TMNT cartoon, which lasted 7 seasons.

Roseangelo 05-17-2009 08:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Andrew NDB (Post 692889)
http://www.newsarama.com/tv/090514-a...s-tmnt-25.html

It's the video that's linked there that's a little angering.

"If you're a TMNT fan, you're hardcore, a fanatic, and you want everything!"

Who the f*** does this guy think he is?

As much as I disagree with this statement, isn't that rather truthful about how TMNT fans are judged? Being the biggest TMNT fan basically boils down to who's the most materialistic.

TristanHuwJones 05-17-2009 09:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Roseangelo (Post 692896)
As much as I disagree with this statement, isn't that rather truthful about how TMNT fans are judged? Being the biggest TMNT fan basically boils down to who's the most materialistic.

If you look at things materialistically though. I'm sure there are people out there that are bigger TMNT fans who only own the comics than those who have to have everything out there with the brand name on it.

The whole handling of TMNT related articles over at Newsarama is completely woeful, and the problem is that the general populace of posters over there get lulled into it all. The response over at Mark Millar's forums to the TMNT is great, and I don't think I've seen a single 'dromer over there. See, if more of us were posting over there, I guarantee you that ignorant outlook would change in a snap. Matt Brady scours the boards there, and if people make a shitstink about how things are portrayed over there, it's changed very quickly.

ToTheNines 05-17-2009 09:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Andrew NDB (Post 692889)
"If you're a TMNT fan, you're hardcore, a fanatic, and you want everything!"

I think I heard that in the season 7 bonus feature. It's pretty ridiculous, I just rolled my eyes for an hour or so and got over it.

Machias Banshee 05-17-2009 09:53 PM

Eh... that's what most fandoms are becoming these days. Collect all the cards, all the action figures, all the pokemon monsters...

Generalizing about the fandom is really unfair. Not all fans fill their houses with action figures, or paint their attics to look like sewers or get tattoos or whatever.... they're seeing the extreme cases and posting mostly about that. What about the rest of us?

There's some who have only a few things, but really love the whole TMNT legacy. Then you have those that collect everything they can get their hands on, and they're not satisfied with Anything in the franchise. These shows only portray the extreme 20 percent. There's 80% left to explore and understand.

Jester 05-17-2009 09:55 PM

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Originally Posted by ToTheNines (Post 692913)
I think I heard that in the season 7 bonus feature. It's pretty ridiculous, I just rolled my eyes for an hour or so and got over it.

An hour? Took me 3 seconds.

Archon_Turtle 05-17-2009 10:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Machias Banshee (Post 692916)
These shows only portray the extreme 20 percent. There's 80% left to explore and understand.

But it is that 20% that the general populace (particularly the primary target demographic for these DVDs) will find interesting. Especially when you have like 10 minutes or less of run time. I'm not saying its right, im not saying its just, I'm just saying that, in the case of these "crazy fan" shows (Totally Obsessed, etc) or DVD special features, that this angle is the most marketable to the widest consumer base.

Machias Banshee 05-17-2009 10:56 PM

Well yeah, for ratings, you don't want something boring. I mean just regular portrayal and understanding of fans. Like... not all Star Trek fans dress up as Vulcans and memorize Klingon language. That's the typical type of fan we see on TV, but it's not the norm.

Andrew NDB 05-17-2009 11:10 PM

It wouldn't bother me if not for the fact that I truly believe that's what these sh*theads believe... and then when someone who doesn't know any better will watch that thing on Newsarama and go, "Oh jeeze... the TMNT fans are all really like that? Yikes!"

Jester 05-17-2009 11:14 PM

I see your point. It almost to me is more offensive in that they see the Turtles as only a merchandising juggernaut and nothing more.

Archon_Turtle 05-17-2009 11:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Andrew NDB (Post 692930)
It wouldn't bother me if not for the fact that I truly believe that's what these sh*theads believe... and then when someone who doesn't know any better will watch that thing on Newsarama and go, "Oh jeeze... the TMNT fans are all really like that? Yikes!"

To be honest I doubt very much that most non-fandom people would even pause to think about that line. At least I personally feel that this particular issue is being blown out of proportion in regard to who out there is going to care or even stop to think about it. Of course, you're all entitled to your opinions.

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Originally Posted by Jester (Post 692931)
I see your point. It almost to me is more offensive in that they see the Turtles as only a merchandising juggernaut and nothing more.

Agreed. It is disconcerting that these kinds of blanket statements and theories are coming from the mouths of the people responsible for the brand. You heard him, they are essentially driven by their marketing department.

Andrew NDB 05-17-2009 11:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Jester (Post 692931)
I see your point. It almost to me is more offensive in that they see the Turtles as only a merchandising juggernaut and nothing more.

There is that too, isn't there?

Roseangelo 05-17-2009 11:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Jester (Post 692931)
I see your point. It almost to me is more offensive in that they see the Turtles as only a merchandising juggernaut and nothing more.

Isn't that all Mirage sees them as anyways?

Archon_Turtle 05-17-2009 11:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Roseangelo (Post 692934)
Isn't that all Mirage sees them as anyways?

I don't know that that statement is applicable to the entirety of Mirage. But what is one more blanket statement on top of the pile in this thread :-P

Dragon Turtle 05-17-2009 11:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Andrew NDB (Post 692889)
http://www.newsarama.com/tv/090514-a...s-tmnt-25.html

It's the video that's linked there that's a little angering.

"If you're a TMNT fan, you're hardcore, a fanatic, and you want everything!"

Who the f*** does this guy think he is?


He actually says:

"It seems like if you're a collector of Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles, you are a hardcore fan of the brand"

Which is true actually, it doesn't necessarily mean he's saying "if you don't buy the toys, you're not a true fan".

Archon_Turtle 05-17-2009 11:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Dragon Turtle (Post 692937)
He actually says:

"It seems like if you're a collector of Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles, you are a hardcore fan of the brand"

Which is true actually, it doesn't necessarily mean he's saying "if you don't buy the toys, you're not a true fan".

But wait, what about all those people who collect ninja turtle action figures that... arent.... fans.... waaaaait a minute!

TristanHuwJones 05-18-2009 12:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Roseangelo (Post 692934)
Isn't that all Mirage sees them as anyways?

That's a gross generalisation right there.

VaughnMichael 05-18-2009 12:40 AM

This entire short on the new TMNT dvd made me agrivated and roll my eyes I mostly said that's it? I couldn't believe how short it was.
Also showing a crap load of new toys when the thing talks about vintage I wanna see vintage.
And those guys at Playmates serioiusly wow, I thought they where stupid and out of touch before but after watching the doc. I think they have not one single clue about the current toy market at all.
Put me in there and I'd hire a staff of people who know their sh1t and clean that mess up in 1 day.
The only good thing now is I have names and faces to direct my anger at.:evilgrin::lol:

Spitfire 05-18-2009 02:36 AM

You can have all the turtles stuff under the sun it doesn't make you anymore of a fan then someone who has nothing, a few comic books, or the DVDs. Having things to show your a fan is nice but you don't need them as proof. You can know everything about turtles and not own everything.

I happen to own all the comics and have a fair amount of toys but I would views myself as just as big of a fan even if I didn't.


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