"If you're a TMNT fan, you're a fanatic and have to buy all the toys!" (Newsarama)

*Andrew NDB* · 05-17-2009, 07:11 PM

http://www.newsarama.com/tv/090514-a...s-tmnt-25.html

It's the video that's linked there that's a little angering.

"If you're a TMNT fan, you're hardcore, a fanatic, and you want everything!"

Who the f*** does this guy think he is?

*CyberCubed* · 05-17-2009, 07:15 PM

Hm, he called April a "old toon creation" whereas he really should have said "reporter April," not April herself.

Quote:

Originally Posted by article

As it stands, the original series did last a very impressive nine seasons, first in syndication then on CBS. While the next shot at a Turtles revival will be live-action, don't be surprised if, sooner or later, the Turtles come back in some new animated incarnation. In the meantime, Lionsgate continues to put out the original series in DVD form.

Hm...this almost sounds as if the guy didn't even know about the 4kids TMNT cartoon, which lasted 7 seasons.

*Roseangelo* · 05-17-2009, 07:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Andrew NDB

http://www.newsarama.com/tv/090514-a...s-tmnt-25.html

It's the video that's linked there that's a little angering.

"If you're a TMNT fan, you're hardcore, a fanatic, and you want everything!"

Who the f*** does this guy think he is?

As much as I disagree with this statement, isn't that rather truthful about how TMNT fans are judged? Being the biggest TMNT fan basically boils down to who's the most materialistic.

TristanHuwJones · 05-17-2009, 08:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Roseangelo

As much as I disagree with this statement, isn't that rather truthful about how TMNT fans are judged? Being the biggest TMNT fan basically boils down to who's the most materialistic.

If you look at things materialistically though. I'm sure there are people out there that are bigger TMNT fans who only own the comics than those who have to have everything out there with the brand name on it.

The whole handling of TMNT related articles over at Newsarama is completely woeful, and the problem is that the general populace of posters over there get lulled into it all. The response over at Mark Millar's forums to the TMNT is great, and I don't think I've seen a single 'dromer over there. See, if more of us were posting over there, I guarantee you that ignorant outlook would change in a snap. Matt Brady scours the boards there, and if people make a shitstink about how things are portrayed over there, it's changed very quickly.

*ToTheNines* · 05-17-2009, 08:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Andrew NDB

"If you're a TMNT fan, you're hardcore, a fanatic, and you want everything!"

I think I heard that in the season 7 bonus feature. It's pretty ridiculous, I just rolled my eyes for an hour or so and got over it.

**Machias Banshee** · 05-17-2009, 08:53 PM

Eh... that's what most fandoms are becoming these days. Collect all the cards, all the action figures, all the pokemon monsters...

Generalizing about the fandom is really unfair. Not all fans fill their houses with action figures, or paint their attics to look like sewers or get tattoos or whatever.... they're seeing the extreme cases and posting mostly about that. What about the rest of us?

There's some who have only a few things, but really love the whole TMNT legacy. Then you have those that collect everything they can get their hands on, and they're not satisfied with Anything in the franchise. These shows only portray the extreme 20 percent. There's 80% left to explore and understand.

**Jester** · 05-17-2009, 08:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ToTheNines

I think I heard that in the season 7 bonus feature. It's pretty ridiculous, I just rolled my eyes for an hour or so and got over it.

An hour? Took me 3 seconds.

Archon_Turtle · 05-17-2009, 09:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Machias Banshee

These shows only portray the extreme 20 percent. There's 80% left to explore and understand.

But it is that 20% that the general populace (particularly the primary target demographic for these DVDs) will find interesting. Especially when you have like 10 minutes or less of run time. I'm not saying its right, im not saying its just, I'm just saying that, in the case of these "crazy fan" shows (Totally Obsessed, etc) or DVD special features, that this angle is the most marketable to the widest consumer base.

**Machias Banshee** · 05-17-2009, 09:56 PM

Well yeah, for ratings, you don't want something boring. I mean just regular portrayal and understanding of fans. Like... not all Star Trek fans dress up as Vulcans and memorize Klingon language. That's the typical type of fan we see on TV, but it's not the norm.

*Andrew NDB* · 05-17-2009, 10:10 PM

It wouldn't bother me if not for the fact that I truly believe that's what these sh*theads believe... and then when someone who doesn't know any better will watch that thing on Newsarama and go, "Oh jeeze... the TMNT fans are all really like that? Yikes!"

**Jester** · 05-17-2009, 10:14 PM

I see your point. It almost to me is more offensive in that they see the Turtles as only a merchandising juggernaut and nothing more.

Archon_Turtle · 05-17-2009, 10:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Andrew NDB

It wouldn't bother me if not for the fact that I truly believe that's what these sh*theads believe... and then when someone who doesn't know any better will watch that thing on Newsarama and go, "Oh jeeze... the TMNT fans are all really like that? Yikes!"

To be honest I doubt very much that most non-fandom people would even pause to think about that line. At least I personally feel that this particular issue is being blown out of proportion in regard to who out there is going to care or even stop to think about it. Of course, you're all entitled to your opinions.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jester

I see your point. It almost to me is more offensive in that they see the Turtles as only a merchandising juggernaut and nothing more.

Agreed. It is disconcerting that these kinds of blanket statements and theories are coming from the mouths of the people responsible for the brand. You heard him, they are essentially driven by their marketing department.

*Andrew NDB* · 05-17-2009, 10:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jester

I see your point. It almost to me is more offensive in that they see the Turtles as only a merchandising juggernaut and nothing more.

There is that too, isn't there?

*Roseangelo* · 05-17-2009, 10:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jester

I see your point. It almost to me is more offensive in that they see the Turtles as only a merchandising juggernaut and nothing more.

Isn't that all Mirage sees them as anyways?

Archon_Turtle · 05-17-2009, 10:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Roseangelo

Isn't that all Mirage sees them as anyways?

I don't know that that statement is applicable to the entirety of Mirage. But what is one more blanket statement on top of the pile in this thread

Dragon Turtle · 05-17-2009, 10:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Andrew NDB

http://www.newsarama.com/tv/090514-a...s-tmnt-25.html

It's the video that's linked there that's a little angering.

"If you're a TMNT fan, you're hardcore, a fanatic, and you want everything!"

Who the f*** does this guy think he is?

He actually says:

"It seems like if you're a collector of Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles, you are a hardcore fan of the brand"

Which is true actually, it doesn't necessarily mean he's saying "if you don't buy the toys, you're not a true fan".

Archon_Turtle · 05-17-2009, 10:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dragon Turtle

He actually says:

"It seems like if you're a collector of Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles, you are a hardcore fan of the brand"

Which is true actually, it doesn't necessarily mean he's saying "if you don't buy the toys, you're not a true fan".

But wait, what about all those people who collect ninja turtle action figures that... arent.... fans.... waaaaait a minute!

TristanHuwJones · 05-17-2009, 11:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Roseangelo

Isn't that all Mirage sees them as anyways?

That's a gross generalisation right there.

*VaughnMichael* · 05-17-2009, 11:40 PM

This entire short on the new TMNT dvd made me agrivated and roll my eyes I mostly said that's it? I couldn't believe how short it was.
Also showing a crap load of new toys when the thing talks about vintage I wanna see vintage.
And those guys at Playmates serioiusly wow, I thought they where stupid and out of touch before but after watching the doc. I think they have not one single clue about the current toy market at all.
Put me in there and I'd hire a staff of people who know their sh1t and clean that mess up in 1 day.
The only good thing now is I have names and faces to direct my anger at.

*Spitfire* · 05-18-2009, 01:36 AM

You can have all the turtles stuff under the sun it doesn't make you anymore of a fan then someone who has nothing, a few comic books, or the DVDs. Having things to show your a fan is nice but you don't need them as proof. You can know everything about turtles and not own everything.

I happen to own all the comics and have a fair amount of toys but I would views myself as just as big of a fan even if I didn't.

05-17-2009, 07:11 PM	#1
Andrew NDB Weed Whacker Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Auburn, WA Posts: 34,262	"If you're a TMNT fan, you're a fanatic and have to buy all the toys!" (Newsarama) http://www.newsarama.com/tv/090514-a...s-tmnt-25.html It's the video that's linked there that's a little angering. "If you're a TMNT fan, you're hardcore, a fanatic, and you want everything!" Who the f*** does this guy think he is?

05-17-2009, 10:14 PM	#11
Jester Rat-faced Dude-guy Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Arkansas Posts: 26,293	I see your point. It almost to me is more offensive in that they see the Turtles as only a merchandising juggernaut and nothing more. __________________ "Clearly, you're Ninja Turtling incorrectly." - Leo656

05-18-2009, 01:36 AM	#20
Spitfire Writer • Director Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 12,035	You can have all the turtles stuff under the sun it doesn't make you anymore of a fan then someone who has nothing, a few comic books, or the DVDs. Having things to show your a fan is nice but you don't need them as proof. You can know everything about turtles and not own everything. I happen to own all the comics and have a fair amount of toys but I would views myself as just as big of a fan even if I didn't. __________________ Check out my online portfolio http://www.christopherpelletier.com/

05-17-2009, 08:53 PM	#6
Machias Banshee Super Moderator Join Date: Dec 2001 Posts: 17,163	Eh... that's what most fandoms are becoming these days. Collect all the cards, all the action figures, all the pokemon monsters... Generalizing about the fandom is really unfair. Not all fans fill their houses with action figures, or paint their attics to look like sewers or get tattoos or whatever.... they're seeing the extreme cases and posting mostly about that. What about the rest of us? There's some who have only a few things, but really love the whole TMNT legacy. Then you have those that collect everything they can get their hands on, and they're not satisfied with Anything in the franchise. These shows only portray the extreme 20 percent. There's 80% left to explore and understand.

05-17-2009, 09:56 PM	#9
Machias Banshee Super Moderator Join Date: Dec 2001 Posts: 17,163	Well yeah, for ratings, you don't want something boring. I mean just regular portrayal and understanding of fans. Like... not all Star Trek fans dress up as Vulcans and memorize Klingon language. That's the typical type of fan we see on TV, but it's not the norm.

05-17-2009, 10:10 PM	#10
Andrew NDB Weed Whacker Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Auburn, WA Posts: 34,262	It wouldn't bother me if not for the fact that I truly believe that's what these sh*theads believe... and then when someone who doesn't know any better will watch that thing on Newsarama and go, "Oh jeeze... the TMNT fans are all really like that? Yikes!"

05-17-2009, 11:40 PM	#19
VaughnMichael I'm Baaaaaaccck! Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Pittsburgh, PA Posts: 11,833	This entire short on the new TMNT dvd made me agrivated and roll my eyes I mostly said that's it? I couldn't believe how short it was. Also showing a crap load of new toys when the thing talks about vintage I wanna see vintage. And those guys at Playmates serioiusly wow, I thought they where stupid and out of touch before but after watching the doc. I think they have not one single clue about the current toy market at all. Put me in there and I'd hire a staff of people who know their sh1t and clean that mess up in 1 day. The only good thing now is I have names and faces to direct my anger at.