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CyberCubed 11-20-2011 12:01 AM

Bebop and Rocksteady went a 15 year gap between animated appearances
 
Bebop and Rocksteady's final appearance in the series was in Season 8's, "Turtle Trek," which aired back in 1994.

As we know, they don't appear in Seasons 9-10 at all so they actually had their final appearance 2 years earlier than Shredder/Krang.

It would be 15 years until their next appearance, which was in 2009's, "Turtles Forever," where they make their return. Its honestly hard to imagine it really was 15 long years without seeing them.

Bebop and Rocksteady were in somewhere around 140+ episodes of the OT (I am guessing, not counting all the eps they weren't in), and were shoved down our throats from 1987-1994. Then they took a 15 year break until their next appearance.

Depending if Nick decides to use them or not, Bebop and Rocksteady could go a god knows how many years again without an appearance. I suppose we'll see if they ever appear in the Nick series.

Powder 11-20-2011 01:38 AM

Wow, never realized how long it had been since we'd last seen them. I do hope they come back in some form.

Keysi-Turtle 11-20-2011 05:14 AM

Krang may be incarnating again over at IDW comics in the TMNT reboot (there's a character called "General Krang" who we know next to nothing about yet; except that he's filthy rich and is funding Baxter Stockman's experiment to create a super-soldier serum; he appears to be human, but when it comes to talking brains, looks can be deceiving *cough* stomach control system *cough*)

Fact of the matter is, the OS is a classic that most everyone of the appropriate age fondly remembers. I guess the 2003 series was an effort to change that, but it failed in the respect of taking the OS's place (you'll notice that the 2003 TMNT is largely forgotten except among the more dedicated Turtle fans, such as those frequenting this forum).

I think the chances are pretty high that we'll be seeing new versions of Bebop and Rocksteady sooner rather than many years down the line.

pannoni1 11-20-2011 08:44 AM

I'm not sure if Irma will return, but she beats out Bebop & Rocksteady by five episodes as she made a brief cameo in TF as well. "State of Shock" was her final appearance. But I'd say the character with the longest delay was the Mousers (they'd appear in video games since their lone appearance in "A Thing About Rats"), but it took them 15 years and 2 months between TV appearances. Human Baxter comes pretty close at 14 years and 3 months.

The first thing I thought when I saw the title was the quote when Raphael said "and we'll check back with you in about 10 years" after R&B were trapped in the zoo cage, and that simply wasn't enough when you think about it!

sdp 11-20-2011 09:03 AM

I can't believe it's been 2 years since the turtles were bought by Viacom and we haven't seen anything really besides a few teasers. Sure in one year it'll be turtle things everywhere but it just seems like too long without news. For comparison Saban bought Power Rangers about a year after Viacom and the new PR season is almost a year old.

Anyways B&R are too popular I'm sure we'll see them in one way or an other.

Stingray69 11-20-2011 02:49 PM

I'd love to see them back but only a little smarter and more of a match fighting wise for the turtles.

lethrhd 11-27-2011 05:37 PM

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Anyways B&R are too popular I'm sure we'll see them in one way or an other.
yea, i love em but im betting the only place we'll be seeing them is on the occasional nostalgia tee, hope im wrong

Redeemer 11-27-2011 05:57 PM

Hopefully we get to see, we already had a series without them which was a nice break. Hopefully they will return, but not as complete retards, but I would still like them to be humorous

CyberCubed 11-28-2011 11:49 PM

I think why people originally might have gotten sick of them is because we sat through them for 8 years in a row where they appeared in most episodes....and of course they would always get beat around or do stupid things. But after a 15 year gap people would miss them.

With a long break from their characters, they as well as Krang can/should be brought back to the franchise with new takes.

mikey22 12-08-2011 10:46 PM

i just hope they arent stupid like they were in season 2

season 1 ot i enjoyed them because they still were strong and tough- they were more annoying in the other seasons.

BAXTER STOCKMAN 19 12-12-2011 10:28 AM

and now they returned in IDW series. 2 years after their last apperance now we have them again!! But i prefer to see them in the new Nick tv series than in the comics. however i am very glad that idw decided to use them again!

Cowabunga Carl 12-12-2011 10:48 AM

Well like Baxter said they are back in IDW. So at least those who wanted them back have them in the comics if nothing else. I'm sure Nick will use them in the show as they are probably just as recognizable as the the Turtles themselves.

AcidBurn30 12-12-2011 11:55 AM

well i was told the new 2012 are going to follow the comic books and the rapahel have Bebop and Rockstady in the comic books, but they're human for now..

Powder 12-12-2011 05:29 PM

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Originally Posted by AcidBurn30 (Post 892885)
well i was told the new 2012 are going to follow the comic books and the rapahel have Bebop and Rockstady in the comic books, but they're human for now..

The new 2012 what? I wouldn't count on anything following any version of the comics.

BAXTER STOCKMAN 19 12-13-2011 06:33 AM

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Originally Posted by AcidBurn30 (Post 892885)
well i was told the new 2012 are going to follow the comic books and the rapahel have Bebop and Rockstady in the comic books, but they're human for now..

Nick has said that they will not follow any comics, it will be totaly different than IDW comics. where did youl learn that?

ZariusTwo 12-13-2011 09:46 AM

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Originally Posted by AcidBurn30 (Post 892885)
well i was told the new 2012 are going to follow the comic books

Who told you? DO enligten us, because 90% of people who say that are usually people who are really saying "I made this s*it up but I'm passing off as second-hand information to cover up the fact I know f*ck all"

ToTheNines 12-13-2011 06:05 PM

Bebop had a cameo in "Future Shellshock" and Rocksteady was heavily referenced to in "Samurai Tourists".

MikeandRaph87 12-20-2011 12:11 PM

Bebop was just a reference just like Gen briefly wearing Rocksteady's signature outfit.

It was too long between appearances for such popular character campy and bumbling or not. I have always wanted to see these two with a little blood on their hands and see what can be done with them beyond the '87 series. I believe Laird missed the mark in dismissing them instead of retooling them. We may have cameos of them in human form but they may not become Bebop the mutant warthog or Rocksteady the mutant rhino. They could be two punks drawn to look like them and be a nod just like the humaniod warthog was in the first episode of the Flashforward season. Lets hope the IDW creative team is taking its time developing a new version of these two awesome characters. Its best to establish them as human punks and gradually work them into a threatening pair of mutants that the TMNT must face in IDW continuity.

CyberCubed 12-20-2011 12:23 PM

The 4kids series is probably what Peter Laird wanted the original cartoon to be, so I don't mind him not using old-toon characters in it.

However now that we went an entire series without them, it would be nice to have them back.


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