Bebop and Rocksteady went a 15 year gap between animated appearances

*CyberCubed* · 11-20-2011, 12:01 AM

Bebop and Rocksteady's final appearance in the series was in Season 8's, "Turtle Trek," which aired back in 1994.

As we know, they don't appear in Seasons 9-10 at all so they actually had their final appearance 2 years earlier than Shredder/Krang.

It would be 15 years until their next appearance, which was in 2009's, "Turtles Forever," where they make their return. Its honestly hard to imagine it really was 15 long years without seeing them.

Bebop and Rocksteady were in somewhere around 140+ episodes of the OT (I am guessing, not counting all the eps they weren't in), and were shoved down our throats from 1987-1994. Then they took a 15 year break until their next appearance.

Depending if Nick decides to use them or not, Bebop and Rocksteady could go a god knows how many years again without an appearance. I suppose we'll see if they ever appear in the Nick series.

*Powder* · 11-20-2011, 01:38 AM

Wow, never realized how long it had been since we'd last seen them. I do hope they come back in some form.

Keysi-Turtle · 11-20-2011, 05:14 AM

Krang may be incarnating again over at IDW comics in the TMNT reboot (there's a character called "General Krang" who we know next to nothing about yet; except that he's filthy rich and is funding Baxter Stockman's experiment to create a super-soldier serum; he appears to be human, but when it comes to talking brains, looks can be deceiving *cough* stomach control system *cough*)

Fact of the matter is, the OS is a classic that most everyone of the appropriate age fondly remembers. I guess the 2003 series was an effort to change that, but it failed in the respect of taking the OS's place (you'll notice that the 2003 TMNT is largely forgotten except among the more dedicated Turtle fans, such as those frequenting this forum).

I think the chances are pretty high that we'll be seeing new versions of Bebop and Rocksteady sooner rather than many years down the line.

*pannoni1* · 11-20-2011, 08:44 AM

I'm not sure if Irma will return, but she beats out Bebop & Rocksteady by five episodes as she made a brief cameo in TF as well. "State of Shock" was her final appearance. But I'd say the character with the longest delay was the Mousers (they'd appear in video games since their lone appearance in "A Thing About Rats"), but it took them 15 years and 2 months between TV appearances. Human Baxter comes pretty close at 14 years and 3 months.

The first thing I thought when I saw the title was the quote when Raphael said "and we'll check back with you in about 10 years" after R&B were trapped in the zoo cage, and that simply wasn't enough when you think about it!

*sdp* · 11-20-2011, 09:03 AM

I can't believe it's been 2 years since the turtles were bought by Viacom and we haven't seen anything really besides a few teasers. Sure in one year it'll be turtle things everywhere but it just seems like too long without news. For comparison Saban bought Power Rangers about a year after Viacom and the new PR season is almost a year old.

Anyways B&R are too popular I'm sure we'll see them in one way or an other.

Stingray69 · 11-20-2011, 02:49 PM

I'd love to see them back but only a little smarter and more of a match fighting wise for the turtles.

lethrhd · 11-27-2011, 05:37 PM

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Anyways B&R are too popular I'm sure we'll see them in one way or an other.

yea, i love em but im betting the only place we'll be seeing them is on the occasional nostalgia tee, hope im wrong

*Redeemer* · 11-27-2011, 05:57 PM

Hopefully we get to see, we already had a series without them which was a nice break. Hopefully they will return, but not as complete retards, but I would still like them to be humorous

*CyberCubed* · 11-28-2011, 11:49 PM

I think why people originally might have gotten sick of them is because we sat through them for 8 years in a row where they appeared in most episodes....and of course they would always get beat around or do stupid things. But after a 15 year gap people would miss them.

With a long break from their characters, they as well as Krang can/should be brought back to the franchise with new takes.

mikey22 · 12-08-2011, 10:46 PM

i just hope they arent stupid like they were in season 2

season 1 ot i enjoyed them because they still were strong and tough- they were more annoying in the other seasons.

BAXTER STOCKMAN 19 · 12-12-2011, 10:28 AM

and now they returned in IDW series. 2 years after their last apperance now we have them again!! But i prefer to see them in the new Nick tv series than in the comics. however i am very glad that idw decided to use them again!

*Cowabunga Carl* · 12-12-2011, 10:48 AM

Well like Baxter said they are back in IDW. So at least those who wanted them back have them in the comics if nothing else. I'm sure Nick will use them in the show as they are probably just as recognizable as the the Turtles themselves.

AcidBurn30 · 12-12-2011, 11:55 AM

well i was told the new 2012 are going to follow the comic books and the rapahel have Bebop and Rockstady in the comic books, but they're human for now..

*Powder* · 12-12-2011, 05:29 PM

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Originally Posted by AcidBurn30

well i was told the new 2012 are going to follow the comic books and the rapahel have Bebop and Rockstady in the comic books, but they're human for now..

The new 2012 what? I wouldn't count on anything following any version of the comics.

BAXTER STOCKMAN 19 · 12-13-2011, 06:33 AM

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Originally Posted by AcidBurn30

well i was told the new 2012 are going to follow the comic books and the rapahel have Bebop and Rockstady in the comic books, but they're human for now..

Nick has said that they will not follow any comics, it will be totaly different than IDW comics. where did youl learn that?

*ZariusTwo* · 12-13-2011, 09:46 AM

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Originally Posted by AcidBurn30

well i was told the new 2012 are going to follow the comic books

Who told you? DO enligten us, because 90% of people who say that are usually people who are really saying "I made this s*it up but I'm passing off as second-hand information to cover up the fact I know f*ck all"

*ToTheNines* · 12-13-2011, 06:05 PM

Bebop had a cameo in "Future Shellshock" and Rocksteady was heavily referenced to in "Samurai Tourists".

*MikeandRaph87* · 12-20-2011, 12:11 PM

Bebop was just a reference just like Gen briefly wearing Rocksteady's signature outfit.

It was too long between appearances for such popular character campy and bumbling or not. I have always wanted to see these two with a little blood on their hands and see what can be done with them beyond the '87 series. I believe Laird missed the mark in dismissing them instead of retooling them. We may have cameos of them in human form but they may not become Bebop the mutant warthog or Rocksteady the mutant rhino. They could be two punks drawn to look like them and be a nod just like the humaniod warthog was in the first episode of the Flashforward season. Lets hope the IDW creative team is taking its time developing a new version of these two awesome characters. Its best to establish them as human punks and gradually work them into a threatening pair of mutants that the TMNT must face in IDW continuity.

*CyberCubed* · 12-20-2011, 12:23 PM

The 4kids series is probably what Peter Laird wanted the original cartoon to be, so I don't mind him not using old-toon characters in it.

However now that we went an entire series without them, it would be nice to have them back.

11-20-2011, 12:01 AM	#1
CyberCubed Overlord Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 43,880	Bebop and Rocksteady went a 15 year gap between animated appearances Bebop and Rocksteady's final appearance in the series was in Season 8's, "Turtle Trek," which aired back in 1994. As we know, they don't appear in Seasons 9-10 at all so they actually had their final appearance 2 years earlier than Shredder/Krang. It would be 15 years until their next appearance, which was in 2009's, "Turtles Forever," where they make their return. Its honestly hard to imagine it really was 15 long years without seeing them. Bebop and Rocksteady were in somewhere around 140+ episodes of the OT (I am guessing, not counting all the eps they weren't in), and were shoved down our throats from 1987-1994. Then they took a 15 year break until their next appearance. Depending if Nick decides to use them or not, Bebop and Rocksteady could go a god knows how many years again without an appearance. I suppose we'll see if they ever appear in the Nick series.

11-20-2011, 08:44 AM	#4
pannoni1 Foot Elite Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: USA Posts: 3,447	I'm not sure if Irma will return, but she beats out Bebop & Rocksteady by five episodes as she made a brief cameo in TF as well. "State of Shock" was her final appearance. But I'd say the character with the longest delay was the Mousers (they'd appear in video games since their lone appearance in "A Thing About Rats"), but it took them 15 years and 2 months between TV appearances. Human Baxter comes pretty close at 14 years and 3 months. The first thing I thought when I saw the title was the quote when Raphael said "and we'll check back with you in about 10 years" after R&B were trapped in the zoo cage, and that simply wasn't enough when you think about it! __________________ http://forums.thetechnodrome.com/sho...d.php?t=37065- MY WANT LIST TMNT FAN CLUB LINK: http://sot.ag/gCjK/ 30 years of Turtle Power! Last edited by pannoni1; 11-20-2011 at 10:53 AM.

11-20-2011, 09:03 AM	#5
sdp Detoxed Member Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Tokio, Italy Posts: 11,221	I can't believe it's been 2 years since the turtles were bought by Viacom and we haven't seen anything really besides a few teasers. Sure in one year it'll be turtle things everywhere but it just seems like too long without news. For comparison Saban bought Power Rangers about a year after Viacom and the new PR season is almost a year old. Anyways B&R are too popular I'm sure we'll see them in one way or an other. __________________ *Trapt* *urself Page MiscRave!!!* Click to join The Drome Discord server

11-27-2011, 05:57 PM	#8
Redeemer Technodrome Technician Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: third earth Posts: 4,737	Hopefully we get to see, we already had a series without them which was a nice break. Hopefully they will return, but not as complete retards, but I would still like them to be humorous __________________ GT:Reedeamer *THE TECHNODROME REDESIGN 2015* http://forums.thetechnodrome.com/showthread.php?t=51594

12-20-2011, 12:11 PM	#18
MikeandRaph87 Jedi Master Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: JLA Satellite Headquarters Posts: 11,189	Bebop was just a reference just like Gen briefly wearing Rocksteady's signature outfit. It was too long between appearances for such popular character campy and bumbling or not. I have always wanted to see these two with a little blood on their hands and see what can be done with them beyond the '87 series. I believe Laird missed the mark in dismissing them instead of retooling them. We may have cameos of them in human form but they may not become Bebop the mutant warthog or Rocksteady the mutant rhino. They could be two punks drawn to look like them and be a nod just like the humaniod warthog was in the first episode of the Flashforward season. Lets hope the IDW creative team is taking its time developing a new version of these two awesome characters. Its best to establish them as human punks and gradually work them into a threatening pair of mutants that the TMNT must face in IDW continuity. __________________ Michelangelo: This looks like a job for the Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles! Raphael: Sheesh, Mikey this ain't a cartoon!

11-20-2011, 01:38 AM	#2
Powder 40 Years of TMNT Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Shell-Ri-La Posts: 26,956	Wow, never realized how long it had been since we'd last seen them. I do hope they come back in some form.

11-20-2011, 05:14 AM	#3
Keysi-Turtle Random Punk Join Date: Nov 2011 Posts: 23	Krang may be incarnating again over at IDW comics in the TMNT reboot (there's a character called "General Krang" who we know next to nothing about yet; except that he's filthy rich and is funding Baxter Stockman's experiment to create a super-soldier serum; he appears to be human, but when it comes to talking brains, looks can be deceiving cough stomach control system cough) Fact of the matter is, the OS is a classic that most everyone of the appropriate age fondly remembers. I guess the 2003 series was an effort to change that, but it failed in the respect of taking the OS's place (you'll notice that the 2003 TMNT is largely forgotten except among the more dedicated Turtle fans, such as those frequenting this forum). I think the chances are pretty high that we'll be seeing new versions of Bebop and Rocksteady sooner rather than many years down the line.

11-20-2011, 02:49 PM	#6
Stingray69 Stone Warrior Join Date: Sep 2011 Posts: 916	I'd love to see them back but only a little smarter and more of a match fighting wise for the turtles.

11-28-2011, 11:49 PM	#9
CyberCubed Overlord Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 43,880	I think why people originally might have gotten sick of them is because we sat through them for 8 years in a row where they appeared in most episodes....and of course they would always get beat around or do stupid things. But after a 15 year gap people would miss them. With a long break from their characters, they as well as Krang can/should be brought back to the franchise with new takes.

12-08-2011, 10:46 PM	#10
mikey22 Stone Warrior Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: IL Posts: 682	i just hope they arent stupid like they were in season 2 season 1 ot i enjoyed them because they still were strong and tough- they were more annoying in the other seasons.

12-12-2011, 10:28 AM	#11
BAXTER STOCKMAN 19 Stone Warrior Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Greece Posts: 661	and now they returned in IDW series. 2 years after their last apperance now we have them again!! But i prefer to see them in the new Nick tv series than in the comics. however i am very glad that idw decided to use them again!

12-12-2011, 10:48 AM	#12
Cowabunga Carl Mad Scientist Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Salt Lake City Posts: 2,384	Well like Baxter said they are back in IDW. So at least those who wanted them back have them in the comics if nothing else. I'm sure Nick will use them in the show as they are probably just as recognizable as the the Turtles themselves.

12-12-2011, 11:55 AM	#13
AcidBurn30 Foot Soldier Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: california Posts: 155	well i was told the new 2012 are going to follow the comic books and the rapahel have Bebop and Rockstady in the comic books, but they're human for now..

12-13-2011, 06:05 PM	#17
ToTheNines Col. Stinkmeaner Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 19,363	Bebop had a cameo in "Future Shellshock" and Rocksteady was heavily referenced to in "Samurai Tourists".

12-20-2011, 12:23 PM	#19
CyberCubed Overlord Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 43,880	The 4kids series is probably what Peter Laird wanted the original cartoon to be, so I don't mind him not using old-toon characters in it. However now that we went an entire series without them, it would be nice to have them back.