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CyberCubed 03-02-2012 11:58 PM

The origin?
 
Other than Splinter being Hamato Yoshi, has it been revealed that the origin will follow the Mirage/4kids or original cartoon origin or the new IDW series origin?

Meaning will the Turtles be back to ordinary pet story owned Turtles and train with Splinter for 15 years?

Jester 03-03-2012 12:07 AM

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Originally Posted by CyberCubed (Post 919656)
Other than Splinter being Hamato Yoshi, has it been revealed that the origin will follow the Mirage/4kids or original cartoon origin or the new IDW series origin?

Nope .

Kendamu 03-03-2012 12:10 AM

From what I know, Saki and Yoshi had a duel in which Saki believed he had killed Yoshi. Yoshi then escaped to New York. Nothing was said about the Turtles, but Splinter's bio seems to imply that he and the Turtles have been living in the sewers together for a long time.

Jester 03-03-2012 12:15 AM

There's also some bit about Saki thinking his love was slain by Yoshi... not sure who that lost love is.
I wonder if it's Shen.

ToTheNines 03-03-2012 05:02 AM

Effed up love triangle lol.

Anyways, I've thought about this a lot and have no idea how they're going to go about it. If Shredder thinks Yoshi's dead, there's no way he's the one who mutated them (like in the FW toon). And if Splinter was a human first, the standard Mirage/4kids origin doesn't really work (although you could adjust it a tad I guess).

But so far, there's no indication that this new universe even has "ooze"... just that mutation chamber The Kraang have.

gobo 03-03-2012 11:01 AM

15 years ago, Shredder newbornnapped 4kids from a hospital nursery as candidates for his mutation machine. They all came out turtles, which he promptly flushed. Yoshi found them in the sewers, and decided to raise them. Then, while exploring the sewers one day, Yoshi ran into The Rat King. The Rat King wasn't very hospitable as the only thing he gave his guest was a curse to become a rat for the rest of his life.

Or so I've heard... :tshifty:

ToTheNines 03-03-2012 02:34 PM

You've been reading fan-fics haven't you?

gobo 03-03-2012 04:29 PM

Nah. That came off the top of my head. I just asked myself, "what would be really lame?" :D

pannoni1 03-03-2012 04:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Goongasnootch (Post 919659)
From what I know, Saki and Yoshi had a duel in which Saki believed he had killed Yoshi. Yoshi then escaped to New York. Nothing was said about the Turtles, but Splinter's bio seems to imply that he and the Turtles have been living in the sewers together for a long time.

That leans toward the OT given that in the first episode, Shredder felt dismayed when he said "That fighting style. It's of the Foot. Can it be that Hamato Yoshi still lives?", meaning that Saki thought he had killed Yoshi. And in the OT, the turtles very well could have been living with Splinter for quite a long time, given that when he first fled, there may not have been much crime in the city until it kept getting worse to the point where April called it a fact of day to day life. Still, I'd like to see Tang Shen (what that lost love Jester is pointing about) get involved more here unlike the OT.

Jephael 03-08-2012 07:18 PM

Why don't we quit comparing origins already? Each universe has its own origin and its own set of rules. Granted there are some obvious paralells, but lets just call the Nickelodeon origin story the Nickelodeon origin story!

ToTheNines 03-09-2012 03:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Jephael (Post 921801)
lets just call the Nickelodeon origin story the Nickelodeon origin story!

We'll call it that when we know what it is.

We have limited information, so we're just speculating on how it's gonna turn out. Continue with your fit though.

Cowabunga Carl 03-10-2012 10:00 AM

Every version has had a different origin. No two have been alike, some have been simular but still different. I expect the same here. It will be simular but it wont be the same.

gobo 03-10-2012 12:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Old Hob (Post 922273)
No two have been alike, some have been simular but still different.

*ahem*
OT=TMNTA
2K3=Dreamwave

Maybe you just meant motion picture origins?

ToTheNines 03-10-2012 12:49 PM

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Originally Posted by gobo (Post 922303)
OT=TMNTA
2K3=Dreamwave

TMNTA actually retconed the OT origin in issue #45.

sdp 03-10-2012 07:07 PM

I realized the other day no animated show has ever had an accurate Mirage origin and the Nick series is following that trend.

CyberCubed 03-10-2012 07:33 PM

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Originally Posted by sdp (Post 922428)
I realized the other day no animated show has ever had an accurate Mirage origin and the Nick series is following that trend.

Considering Splinter was human and has a daughter I'd say so.

I hope the Turtles are pet store owned though. I'd rather not see
IDW's origin again.

Jester 03-10-2012 08:59 PM

I see nothing wrong with comparing origins, i mean, it's about the only way we can discuss it until more details are released.

It's like A, with bits of B and not much from C and so on.

ToTheNines 03-11-2012 03:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Jester (Post 922482)
I see nothing wrong with comparing origins, i mean, it's about the only way we can discuss it until more details are released.

It's like A, with bits of B and not much from C and so on.

Stop being so damned sensitive Jester!

Jester 03-11-2012 03:16 AM

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Originally Posted by ToTheNines (Post 922536)
Stop being so damned sensitive Jester!


:cry:

Cowabunga Carl 03-11-2012 10:45 AM

I never read Dreamweave, did they really just take the OT origin?


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