The origin?

*CyberCubed* · 03-02-2012, 11:58 PM

Other than Splinter being Hamato Yoshi, has it been revealed that the origin will follow the Mirage/4kids or original cartoon origin or the new IDW series origin?

Meaning will the Turtles be back to ordinary pet story owned Turtles and train with Splinter for 15 years?

**Jester** · 03-03-2012, 12:07 AM

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Originally Posted by CyberCubed

Other than Splinter being Hamato Yoshi, has it been revealed that the origin will follow the Mirage/4kids or original cartoon origin or the new IDW series origin?

Nope .

*Kendamu* · 03-03-2012, 12:10 AM

From what I know, Saki and Yoshi had a duel in which Saki believed he had killed Yoshi. Yoshi then escaped to New York. Nothing was said about the Turtles, but Splinter's bio seems to imply that he and the Turtles have been living in the sewers together for a long time.

**Jester** · 03-03-2012, 12:15 AM

There's also some bit about Saki thinking his love was slain by Yoshi... not sure who that lost love is.
I wonder if it's Shen.

*ToTheNines* · 03-03-2012, 05:02 AM

Effed up love triangle lol.

Anyways, I've thought about this a lot and have no idea how they're going to go about it. If Shredder thinks Yoshi's dead, there's no way he's the one who mutated them (like in the FW toon). And if Splinter was a human first, the standard Mirage/4kids origin doesn't really work (although you could adjust it a tad I guess).

But so far, there's no indication that this new universe even has "ooze"... just that mutation chamber The Kraang have.

*gobo* · 03-03-2012, 11:01 AM

15 years ago, Shredder newbornnapped 4kids from a hospital nursery as candidates for his mutation machine. They all came out turtles, which he promptly flushed. Yoshi found them in the sewers, and decided to raise them. Then, while exploring the sewers one day, Yoshi ran into The Rat King. The Rat King wasn't very hospitable as the only thing he gave his guest was a curse to become a rat for the rest of his life.

Or so I've heard...

*ToTheNines* · 03-03-2012, 02:34 PM

You've been reading fan-fics haven't you?

*gobo* · 03-03-2012, 04:29 PM

Nah. That came off the top of my head. I just asked myself, "what would be really lame?"

*pannoni1* · 03-03-2012, 04:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Goongasnootch

From what I know, Saki and Yoshi had a duel in which Saki believed he had killed Yoshi. Yoshi then escaped to New York. Nothing was said about the Turtles, but Splinter's bio seems to imply that he and the Turtles have been living in the sewers together for a long time.

That leans toward the OT given that in the first episode, Shredder felt dismayed when he said "That fighting style. It's of the Foot. Can it be that Hamato Yoshi still lives?", meaning that Saki thought he had killed Yoshi. And in the OT, the turtles very well could have been living with Splinter for quite a long time, given that when he first fled, there may not have been much crime in the city until it kept getting worse to the point where April called it a fact of day to day life. Still, I'd like to see Tang Shen (what that lost love Jester is pointing about) get involved more here unlike the OT.

*Jephael* · 03-08-2012, 07:18 PM

Why don't we quit comparing origins already? Each universe has its own origin and its own set of rules. Granted there are some obvious paralells, but lets just call the Nickelodeon origin story the Nickelodeon origin story!

*ToTheNines* · 03-09-2012, 03:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Jephael

lets just call the Nickelodeon origin story the Nickelodeon origin story!

We'll call it that when we know what it is.

We have limited information, so we're just speculating on how it's gonna turn out. Continue with your fit though.

*Cowabunga Carl* · 03-10-2012, 10:00 AM

Every version has had a different origin. No two have been alike, some have been simular but still different. I expect the same here. It will be simular but it wont be the same.

*gobo* · 03-10-2012, 12:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Old Hob

No two have been alike, some have been simular but still different.

*ahem*
OT=TMNTA
2K3=Dreamwave

Maybe you just meant motion picture origins?

*ToTheNines* · 03-10-2012, 12:49 PM

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Originally Posted by gobo

OT=TMNTA
2K3=Dreamwave

TMNTA actually retconed the OT origin in issue #45.

*sdp* · 03-10-2012, 07:07 PM

I realized the other day no animated show has ever had an accurate Mirage origin and the Nick series is following that trend.

*CyberCubed* · 03-10-2012, 07:33 PM

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Originally Posted by sdp

I realized the other day no animated show has ever had an accurate Mirage origin and the Nick series is following that trend.

Considering Splinter was human and has a daughter I'd say so.

I hope the Turtles are pet store owned though. I'd rather not see
IDW's origin again.

**Jester** · 03-10-2012, 08:59 PM

I see nothing wrong with comparing origins, i mean, it's about the only way we can discuss it until more details are released.

It's like A, with bits of B and not much from C and so on.

*ToTheNines* · 03-11-2012, 03:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Jester

I see nothing wrong with comparing origins, i mean, it's about the only way we can discuss it until more details are released.

It's like A, with bits of B and not much from C and so on.

Stop being so damned sensitive Jester!

**Jester** · 03-11-2012, 03:16 AM

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Originally Posted by ToTheNines

Stop being so damned sensitive Jester!

*Cowabunga Carl* · 03-11-2012, 10:45 AM

I never read Dreamweave, did they really just take the OT origin?

03-02-2012, 11:58 PM	#1
CyberCubed Overlord Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 43,806	The origin? Other than Splinter being Hamato Yoshi, has it been revealed that the origin will follow the Mirage/4kids or original cartoon origin or the new IDW series origin? Meaning will the Turtles be back to ordinary pet story owned Turtles and train with Splinter for 15 years?

03-03-2012, 11:01 AM	#6
gobo Wacky Action Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: on Earth Posts: 12,784	15 years ago, Shredder newbornnapped 4kids from a hospital nursery as candidates for his mutation machine. They all came out turtles, which he promptly flushed. Yoshi found them in the sewers, and decided to raise them. Then, while exploring the sewers one day, Yoshi ran into The Rat King. The Rat King wasn't very hospitable as the only thing he gave his guest was a curse to become a rat for the rest of his life. Or so I've heard... __________________ Live and let live... or go to hell.

03-03-2012, 04:29 PM	#8
gobo Wacky Action Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: on Earth Posts: 12,784	Nah. That came off the top of my head. I just asked myself, "what would be really lame?" __________________ Live and let live... or go to hell.

03-08-2012, 07:18 PM	#10
Jephael That whack job behind you Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Carlisle, Pennsylvania Posts: 8,143	Why don't we quit comparing origins already? Each universe has its own origin and its own set of rules. Granted there are some obvious paralells, but lets just call the Nickelodeon origin story the Nickelodeon origin story! __________________ "I like it. Simple, but effective!" Raphael; The Mean Machines - 1988

03-10-2012, 07:07 PM	#15
sdp Detoxed Member Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Tokio, Italy Posts: 11,188	I realized the other day no animated show has ever had an accurate Mirage origin and the Nick series is following that trend. __________________ *Trapt* *urself Page MiscRave!!!* Click to join The Drome Discord server

03-03-2012, 12:10 AM	#3
Kendamu Sewerhead Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Canada Posts: 2,890	From what I know, Saki and Yoshi had a duel in which Saki believed he had killed Yoshi. Yoshi then escaped to New York. Nothing was said about the Turtles, but Splinter's bio seems to imply that he and the Turtles have been living in the sewers together for a long time.

03-03-2012, 12:15 AM	#4
Jester Rat-faced Dude-guy Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Arkansas Posts: 26,296	There's also some bit about Saki thinking his love was slain by Yoshi... not sure who that lost love is. I wonder if it's Shen. __________________ "Clearly, you're Ninja Turtling incorrectly." - Leo656

03-03-2012, 05:02 AM	#5
ToTheNines Col. Stinkmeaner Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 19,220	Effed up love triangle lol. Anyways, I've thought about this a lot and have no idea how they're going to go about it. If Shredder thinks Yoshi's dead, there's no way he's the one who mutated them (like in the FW toon). And if Splinter was a human first, the standard Mirage/4kids origin doesn't really work (although you could adjust it a tad I guess). But so far, there's no indication that this new universe even has "ooze"... just that mutation chamber The Kraang have.

03-03-2012, 02:34 PM	#7
ToTheNines Col. Stinkmeaner Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 19,220	You've been reading fan-fics haven't you?

03-10-2012, 10:00 AM	#12
Cowabunga Carl Mad Scientist Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Salt Lake City Posts: 2,384	Every version has had a different origin. No two have been alike, some have been simular but still different. I expect the same here. It will be simular but it wont be the same.

03-10-2012, 08:59 PM	#17
Jester Rat-faced Dude-guy Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Arkansas Posts: 26,296	I see nothing wrong with comparing origins, i mean, it's about the only way we can discuss it until more details are released. It's like A, with bits of B and not much from C and so on. __________________ "Clearly, you're Ninja Turtling incorrectly." - Leo656

03-11-2012, 10:45 AM	#20
Cowabunga Carl Mad Scientist Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Salt Lake City Posts: 2,384	I never read Dreamweave, did they really just take the OT origin?