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CyberCubed 09-30-2012 07:27 PM

Is Nick's Raphael the most similar to past incarnations so far?
 
While Nick's Leonardo, Donatello, and Michelangelo all have slight changes to their personalities and characters to make them stand out a bit more compared to past incarnations, anyone else feel as if Raph's not that much different?

He was still shown to be quick to anger and lose his patience in the episodes, and he seemed to get annoyed with both Mikey (for being silly) and Leonardo (for being a leader) as usual. I think the only reason they gave Raph a pet turtle to confide in is because they didn't change much about him otherwise.

I guess this is pretty much why Nick's Raphael doesn't stand out as much as the other 3 Turtles so far, he seems to be the least changed from the past while the others all have something new about them.

TurtleTitan97 09-30-2012 07:32 PM

I don't really mind that he's like the other past versions of Raph.

Powder 09-30-2012 07:37 PM

He does seem to retain more of his former selves than the other turtles, but I think there are some things that set him apart. For example, even though they're playing up the whole tough guy thing, they're not dumbing him down a bit like 2k3 kinda did. He's quick to act, but he's still sharp. & the way he's voiced doesn't make him seem cocky but rather confident. He's got... whatever they called swag before swag came along (hate that word).

Jester 09-30-2012 07:52 PM

Also I think the fact that his soft spot is so visible with Spike helps to mellow him out compared to other Raphs. That and like Powder said, Astin's voice being lest stereotypical New Yorker kinda lightens him up and makes him less cocky.

oldmanwinters 09-30-2012 08:00 PM

I do like the fact that (at least at this point) Raphael appears to be a slightly more competent and effective leader than Leonardo. It will be nice to see Leo grow into his role, instead of just assuming his brothers will follow him by default.

Slade 09-30-2012 08:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Powder (Post 1004164)
He does seem to retain more of his former selves than the other turtles, but I think there are some things that set him apart. For example, even though they're playing up the whole tough guy thing, they're not dumbing him down a bit like 2k3 kinda did. He's quick to act, but he's still sharp. & the way he's voiced doesn't make him seem cocky but rather confident. He's got... whatever they called swag before swag came along (hate that word).

This and I hate that word too.


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Originally Posted by Jester (Post 1004179)
Also I think the fact that his soft spot is so visible with Spike helps to mellow him out compared to other Raphs. That and like Powder said, Astin's voice being lest stereotypical New Yorker kinda lightens him up and makes him less cocky.

And this.

Though we've only seen one hour of him so far, I get the feeling Nick's version of Raph won't be as much of a hothead as 2k3, but I do see him as being a smartass like Fred Wolf.

sdp 09-30-2012 08:56 PM

He isn't too different but at least he isn't as annoying as in 2k3, his personality has been pretty well balanced so far. If he can stay like that without it being overplayed like in a few incarnations it'll be fine.

Coola Yagami 09-30-2012 08:59 PM

I kinda see Raph as a bit of a bully to the others, but it's more evened out since he picks on all 3 of his brothers and not just Mike.

I also seem to like that this time his angry attitude seems more genuine. Like I don't know... in this incarnation it feels more like 'that's how he is'... while in other incarnations they overdo it so much you're left wondering 'why is he so angry all the time???' and never get a clear answer.

zkarlette 10-01-2012 12:41 AM

So far I really like this version of Raph he sort of reminds me of the 4 kids version but a tad toned down. I really think Sean Astin is doing an excellent job.
His pet turtle makes him look so cute.

Allio 10-01-2012 12:44 AM

I actually think, this Raphael could actually grow up to be like the Raphael from the TMNT movie...

same with Leonardo and Mikey...

so there is that answer

BubblyShell22 10-01-2012 06:41 AM

I agree that Raph is a bit the same as in other incarnations, but I think he's different in that while he's quick to anger and impatience, he does have a softer side with Spike. Spike brings out something different in him, and that's what I like about him. I do think there will be a lot of conflict between Raph and Leo for a little while, but I'm okay with that.

amigaice 10-01-2012 07:02 AM

Both me and my kids loved the pet turtle Raph had. There also was a scene right in the middle of a fight both him and mikey made silly faces at the bad guys. So Raph does have a lighter side. The first thing my kids noticed though was the crack in his shell and they laughed any time those silly animations where used.

Powder 10-01-2012 01:21 PM

Who the hell is Ralph?

BubblyShell22 10-01-2012 04:23 PM

Ralph is the fat kid from The Simpsons. Raph is the Ninja Turtle we're talking about here, not Ralph Wiggum. This mistake is made so much, it irks me.

TheJ-manTurtleMan 10-01-2012 05:00 PM

Yes, I think he is the most similar, but I think he's more similar to the OT Raphael. I'm so glad they brought back the sarcastic witty Raph, but still keeping a little touch of the tough guy anger. Also losing the New York accent helps a lot

chrisdude 10-01-2012 05:27 PM

Maybe it's not Raphael being kept the same, but all of the other turtles being spotlighted a bit more?

I mean, with Mikey making his own discovery not being believed, Donnie and April, and Leo trying to be a leader, maybe there just wasn't enough to time give Raph his own subplot.

ComicBookBoy 10-01-2012 10:01 PM

Raph is still my favorite character. I espescially like how he was stronger than Leo. He seems to be a lot less angry and gung-ho about things than the 2003 Raph. I think the 2003 Raph was too hot headed and the 1987 Raph was way too comical, but I think that this Raph is a bit of a combination. And I like it.

blackaerin 10-01-2012 10:46 PM

Can't put my finger on it, but this Raph seems a bit more...intense.
Sure he's a lot calmer than 2k3 Raph, he actually smiles and acts like a kid and isn't grumpy and uptight 24/7. I do like that he's a bit of a smartass to Donatello, it seems that they're more prone to squabbling while Leo's a bit more passive. And hey, he's even revealed to have a softer side through Spike.

But everytime he fights an enemy, he looks like a thread waiting to snap at any moment.
The way he stabs at the robots and his face when he "hacks" the lock, the way he breaks the robot's arm, and where he's grabbing Snakeweed.
He has the potential to be, in Leo's words "seriously twisted" and I agree with Allio that I can very easily see this Raph growing up into 2007 Raph.
Maybe not now, but eventually something's going to set him off.
I do hope that this show explores this repressed anger more and not just leave it as "Oh la de da, it's just Raph being Raph." (Looking at the episode synopsis, hopefully this will be shown in next week's episode.)

Avatar Yuffie 10-02-2012 08:33 AM

It's really interesting Raph gets a pet, instead of Mikey. He seems to fight with ALL his brothers, Don surprisingly is rather snappish, instead of asserting his alpha-ness and getting Dad's approval with Leo.

And I really like the fact he's implied to be the best fighter of the four, so again his jealousy with Leo will hopefully NOT be used to shape his character in this continuity. Hopefully.

FoxZerro 10-02-2012 08:54 AM

Raph seems more reasonable so far. I loved the interaction with Donatello in the beginning when he gave him the chance to drop his staff, and then ended up beating him with it. I imagine that it probably would have been better for Donatello if he had dropped his Bo.

What I hope happens is the Mikey's best friend aspect of the character. It was definitely hinted at when they both made funny faces at the Krang during the fight. As much as I love Don and Mikey being best friends in the Movie and Don and Raph's friendship in the OT. I have always totally understood and supported Mike and Raph being best friends.


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