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Jephael 11-19-2012 08:49 AM

Do you prefer the VHS or DVD copy of Secret of the Ooze?
 
Ordinarily I prefer to watch both the original and third films on DVD, but when Secret of the Ooze was released, they made a small goof with the DVD conversion. Orignally in the scene where Rahzar is twirling Michaelangelo around he calls out "Hey, Leo!", though for some dumb reason the line got muted out. Due to that little snafu, I tend to rely more on my VHS copy of that film than the DVD. Does anyone else feel the same way?

chrisdude 11-19-2012 10:49 AM

I guess if there's an error, there's an error. That one, I never noticed. But there really aren't any advantages to VHS. They have to be rewound and they degrade over time. I'm sure my TMNT tapes are collecting dust in the attic.

Drose18 11-19-2012 10:57 AM

I just bought the blu ray version.

gobo 11-19-2012 12:42 PM

Can't say I've ever noticed. I just got the Bluray too, so I'll be checking on that later.

zodiac brave 11-19-2012 12:57 PM

i just watched my secret of the ooze dvd last night and, yeah, mikey doesn't say the line. doesn't really bother me as its a totally inconsequential "mistake". until i get the blu-ray, i'll keep watching the dvd as its too much trouble hooking up the vcr and dragging out my vhs from storage.

CyberCubed 11-19-2012 04:13 PM

After watching it on blu-ray I can't go back, the quality of the video is just so awful even on the DVD version.

TheSkeletonMan939 11-19-2012 06:15 PM

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Originally Posted by CyberCubed (Post 1023759)
After watching it on blu-ray I can't go back, the quality of the video is just so awful even on the DVD version.

I found the BR quality to be so-so. While film grain is normal is most movies, it was monstrous in the TMNT films. The company didn't even bother to ink in the blacks during Splinter's flashbacks in the first film.

LeoNerdo 11-19-2012 08:08 PM

Yeah the Blu-ray is as good as it has looked on home video. It could be so much better though if it had a little restoration work done. I thought the 5.1 audio tracks were great though for being as old as the movies are.

Drose18 11-19-2012 08:26 PM

My blu ray just shipped from Best buy ill probably get it soon. One question does blu ray have any special features?

sgtfbomb 11-20-2012 06:30 AM

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Originally Posted by LeoNerdo (Post 1023853)
Yeah the Blu-ray is as good as it has looked on home video. It could be so much better though if it had a little restoration work done. I thought the 5.1 audio tracks were great though for being as old as the movies are.

I thought that the movies looked better than they have ever looked. Yes, they could look better. However, I do think that a lot of the grain from the first film comes from either stylistic choices (the flashbacks), film stock, and lighting. If you take a camera, and shoot something with limited lighting, you will get a lot of gain. The problem is, if you take out grain, you actually lose detail, which is why people make a big deal about DNR, which tends to make for an unnatural, glossy look. However, besides the flashback scenes, the grain in the first movie isn't nearly as bad as it used to be. I recall that scene where Casey runs up to the warehouse looking worse on the VHS and DVD than the TV broadcasts. The grain was still there.

I don't know what people are talking about with the other two films. They look good, though I do think that there were some instances of EE, digital sharpening, and contrast. Granted, I don't have the sharp eye that many of HD enthusiasts have, but I think it is fair to say that these films do look better than they did on DVD. Just look at these screenshots!

http://www.blu-ray.com/movies/Teenag...6/#Screenshots

Frankly, this is probably the best these films are ever going to look. I hope not. I would love to see an awesome restoration of the first film.

pannoni1 11-20-2012 07:15 AM

VHS for the sake of nostalgia. It was the TMNT movie I watched most on VHS, and despite the degraded quality, I still have and is my preference. Let's not forget the Burger King commercial, too.

d_osborn 11-20-2012 08:01 AM

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Originally Posted by sgtfbomb (Post 1023921)
However, I do think that a lot of the grain from the first film comes from either stylistic choices (the flashbacks), film stock, and lighting.

it was a combination of style and budget. the film was also supposed to be a darker (photographic exposure, not tone). golden harvest requested that the film stock be pushed during processing, or lightened up, which also adds grain.

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Originally Posted by Jephael (Post 1023610)
Ordinarily I prefer to watch both the original and third films on DVD, but when Secret of the Ooze was released, they made a small goof with the DVD conversion. Orignally in the scene where Rahzar is twirling Michaelangelo around he calls out "Hey, Leo!", though for some dumb reason the line got muted out. Due to that little snafu, I tend to rely more on my VHS copy of that film than the DVD. Does anyone else feel the same way?

What you gain in the audio snafu, you lose drastically in 4:3 pan & scan. unless you're a nostalgia nut or haven't upgraded, I can't imagine a good reason why someone would want to watch VHS over DVD/BR. The BR especially looks gorgeous.

Jephael 11-20-2012 09:04 AM

To be fair my VHS copy is still in pretty good shape. Maybe someday it'll wear out, but as long as it's still viewable I can enjoy it. As I said earlier I do prefer the DVD copies of the other two live action films.

Turns 11-20-2012 10:15 AM

I don't usually watch either since the 2nd movie was my least favorite but when I do its DVD all the way.

Rise1184 11-20-2012 11:25 AM

Interesting.. I never noticed that. I have both, so regardless, I'm happy with any quality.

Ravenxl7 11-21-2012 03:55 AM

I have to admit, I never noticed that. I have both a DVD and a VHS copy. I'm actually rather proud of the fact that the VHS still works, given how much I watched it growing up.

I might even end-up having two copies of it on DVD. When I bought the copy I have now I could only find the SotO DVD, and it's still the only one I have. I'm considering buying the 4-pack Walmart has for thirteen bucks. Anyways, getting off topic, so I'll be going...

Bob 11-21-2012 12:14 PM

I will rather superior picture quality to one worthless little line any day of the week.

alliance 11-30-2012 12:39 AM

I gotta ask this...in your VCR Copy did it start getting alil fuzzy right after when Mikey kissed the manhole cover after saying "man im so glad to see you" during the tokka razar fight??

tmntpower1988 11-30-2012 02:53 AM

So I wasn't imagining things when I didn't notice the line in the DVD version :lol: It doesn't bother me if the line is missing though, it's one of those lines that gets stuck in my head and keeps repeating over and over again about a million times. The DVD version gets my vote.

eoireitum7 12-02-2012 02:24 AM

Ah, VHS! Maybe they will correct it at some point. At least they aren't drastically changing the originals like they did with the star wars trilogy. I cringe every time I see spirit scene now on DVD. Bah


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