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MaximeLoonatic 08-20-2013 05:08 PM

I don't like that Karai it's Miwa
 
In my opinion the plot that Karai it's Splinter's daughter it broke her character; if at the ence she found out about it, how she would react? It would mean that she's good? Neutrual? She supposed to be one of the most dangerous and meanest villians of the turtles; there's shouldn't be any chance for her to be good

ObiWanFan4life 08-20-2013 05:09 PM

How does that ruin her character?

PApagreg 08-20-2013 05:12 PM

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Originally Posted by MaximeLoonatic (Post 1145015)
In my opinion the plot that Karai it's Splinter's daughter it broke her character; if at the ence she found out about it, how she would react? It would mean that she's good? Neutrual? She supposed to be one of the most dangerous and meanest villians of the turtles; there's shouldn't be any chance for her to be good

Well most incarnations make her neutral not really full blown evil

Bossa Nova 08-20-2013 05:23 PM

Karai tends to be most interesting when she's a conflicted, somewhat "neutral" character. If she's a full-blown villain or pure evil she runs the risk of becoming as flat as the Shredder. I'm not crazy about Karai being Miwa either, for a whole slew of other reasons, though I do admit it does amuse me on the whole LeoxKarai front.

Coola Yagami 08-20-2013 06:28 PM

The original Karai also had honor and had a truce with the turtles, and kept that truce. So she wasn't exactly 'pure evil' then either.

Shark_Blade 08-20-2013 06:56 PM

Are you one of those LeoxKarai shippers?

Electric 08-20-2013 07:50 PM

it keeps her interesting. karai as a character who's more interesting when shes neutral. for example, 2k3, karai was interesting when she was conflicted, but then in season 4 became flat when she had a weak motive to just be evil. (still havent finished season 5 yet)

its also ironic for us, since from now on, karai scenes will have us viewing her as splinters daughter, while she has no clue, and while shredder avoids telling her

snake 08-20-2013 07:51 PM

It makes her a better character, and it could lead to some interesting development, such as her questioning herself.

FlogginMcMurryZombiePizza 08-20-2013 07:59 PM

the character is still fairly new to me. My first exposure to her was the 2007 film.
I hadn't watched the 4Kids show, really, and I didn't see her in the comics ('cus the comics were hard to find and I didn't know to look for them 'cus the local shops didn't really have TMNT titles).

It's interesting all the different takes on the characters there have been.
Saki/Shredder, Splinter/Yoshi, who the Turtles are, Karai/Miwa.
Almost everytime a new cartoon or comic launches, something changes. Right now in IDW, Splinter and the Turtles are reincarnated from previous lives.

But I do like the dynamic of Karai really being Yoshi's daughter, raised by Shredder to use against her own father. That's just... dark.

Electric 08-20-2013 08:06 PM

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Originally Posted by FlogginMcMurryZombiePizza (Post 1145126)
the character is still fairly new to me. My first exposure to her was the 2007 film.

in my opinion, that was the most boring karai ive ever seen. since she wasnt the main villain in the movie her character kinda got a "backseat". You dont really get to see her neutral side, of walking the line with the turtles. instead she just rides in a van with casey and april
you should really consider watching 4kids sometime! im not saying it will be incredible, some people like it, some dont, but if nothing else it gives you a different version of each character

PApagreg 08-20-2013 08:18 PM

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Originally Posted by FlogginMcMurryZombiePizza (Post 1145126)
the character is still fairly new to me. My first exposure to her was the 2007 film.

in my opinion, that was the most boring karai ive ever seen. since she wasnt the main villain in the movie her character kinda got a "backseat". You dont really get to see her neutral side, of walking the line with the turtles. instead she just rides in a van with casey and april
you should really consider watching 4kids sometime! im not saying it will be incredible, some people like it, some dont, but if nothing else it gives you a different version of each character

She was also the Yamcha of Karais since she got her a$$ kicked by April

Eiko 08-20-2013 08:34 PM

I love that Karai is Miwa in the nick show. To me she has always been a quite boring character this time around tho she is more interesting plus it gives the Shredder/Splinter rivalry more of a story.

ShellCast 08-20-2013 10:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Eiko (Post 1145151)
I love that Karai is Miwa in the nick show. To me she has always been a quite boring character this time around tho she is more interesting plus it gives the Shredder/Splinter rivalry more of a story.

I agree with this too. I thought it was a great spin on what we already know (or don't really know) about her. Like others here said, she has never really been nailed down as this or that, the character has differed quite a bit through the mediums. To me, the reveal of her as Splinters daughter just...works.

FlogginMcMurryZombiePizza 08-21-2013 03:19 AM

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Originally Posted by ElectricN (Post 1145135)

She was also the Yamcha of Karais since she got her a$$ kicked by April

Yamcha's my favorite :(

PApagreg 08-21-2013 03:32 AM

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Originally Posted by PApagreg (Post 1145145)

Yamcha's my favorite :(

Somethings tell me you are not gonna like tfs abridge

BubblyShell22 08-21-2013 07:56 AM

I like that Karai is Miwa as it gives her more of a backstory and more character development as she questions who she really is. 2K3 Karai was interesting until after Shredder was exiled and then she just took his place and did a horrible job of trying to be her father all over again. At least this Karai doesn't totally blindly follow Shredder and now she has even more reasons to really think about where her loyalties lie.

I really think that once Leo finds out about her, he's going to try and persuade her to join them and Splinter so he can have his daughter back.

pingclang 08-21-2013 09:55 AM

You kidding me? The Kirai/Miwa reveal was awesome. Predictable, but awesome. Instead having her as just another ninja daughter for Shredder, she's a brainwashed Miwa? Badass. Nothing disappointing about it.

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Originally Posted by BubblyShell22 (Post 1145336)
I really think that once Leo finds out about her, he's going to try and persuade her to join them and Splinter so he can have his daughter back.

That will be a lot of fun to watch.

ABrown 08-21-2013 02:30 PM

I kinda like the whole Miwa/Karai bit. I'll take her story over a mutant-of-the-week story any day.

BubblyShell22 08-21-2013 04:33 PM

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Originally Posted by pingclang (Post 1145386)
You kidding me? The Kirai/Miwa reveal was awesome. Predictable, but awesome. Instead having her as just another ninja daughter for Shredder, she's a brainwashed Miwa? Badass. Nothing disappointing about it.



That will be a lot of fun to watch.

Yes, it will, and I'll enjoy watching it if it happens.

Powder 08-21-2013 06:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Eiko (Post 1145151)
I love that Karai is Miwa in the nick show. To me she has always been a quite boring character this time around tho she is more interesting plus it gives the Shredder/Splinter rivalry more of a story.

This sums it up perfectly.


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