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THGhost 08-07-2014 05:07 PM

"Fans unhappy with changes" in the new movie
 
In an interview with Megan Fox she talked about fans being "unhappy with changes" made the mythology.

I have a question regarding this:

Changes to the mythology have been made to every iteration of TMNT ever since the original comics. So what exactly were fans expecting from this? A 100% remake of the comics or 80s cartoon? Don't be absurd.

Autbot_Benz 08-07-2014 05:09 PM

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Originally Posted by THGhost (Post 1324927)
In an interview with Megan Fox she talked about fans being "unhappy with changes" made the mythology.

I have a question regarding this:

Changes to the mythology have been made to every iteration of TMNT ever since the original comics. So what exactly were fans expecting from this? A 100% remake of the comics or 80s cartoon? Don't be absurd.

fans upset with changes sound like the nostalgic 80's cartoon and 90's movie turtle lovers who are stuck in a time warp. Just my Opinion

Ramboraph4life aka Matt 08-07-2014 05:13 PM

Well, I'd rather have Raphael be a bad-ass martial artist (ala Jason Statham or such) instead of an 'Incredible Hulk' guy who only does that...Super Turtle/Hulk stuff...and instead perhaps use his Martial arts (which he's done in Every Single Aspect in the past) and apparently was trained for over a decade in but doesn't really use (at least according to some folks who saw the film already and told me about it, and I trust their opinion, and others confirmed that).

So that's one change I wouldn't be happy with...Mikey being turned into 'he farts and that's funny' guy or 'getting his shell tightened' by seeing Megan Fox' would be another change I'd be unhappy with as well...

Plus, how many times do people have to say the same song & dance...some folks simply aren't fans of the new designs and they don't care about the 'it's more realistic' argument'. Their Opinions are not always going to be the same as your opinions.

If you, Megan Fox, and others like it? Cool. But if she (or anyone) thinks that every single person would be fine and dandy with it, then they are only fooling themselves.

Werecat 08-07-2014 05:14 PM

I don't mind changes and I don't think "those fans" dislike change either. They dislike the show because instead of improving the story line by filling plot holes and adding more complex characterization they choose to change the plot just for the sake of change. Changes should only be done if it fixes the plot hole or improves the character. Change should never corrupt the original experience.

TrickOrTreater 08-07-2014 05:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Autbot_Benz (Post 1324932)
fans upset with changes sound like the nostalgic 80's cartoon and 90's movie turtle lovers who are stuck in a time warp. Just my Opinion

Or people who are sick of douchebags ******** all over characters they love because the property isn't good enough for them in the first place.

The douchebags I'm talking about are Michael Bay and Jonathan Liebesman.

Now if you'll excuse me, I'm going to the library to rent a book about martial arts to become a ninja master.

terrorblade 08-07-2014 05:20 PM

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Originally Posted by TrickOrTreater (Post 1324945)
Now if you'll excuse me, I'm going to the library to rent a book about martial arts to become a ninja master.

Make sure that there will be no rat watching you because he might become a better ninja master than you.

TrickOrTreater 08-07-2014 05:24 PM

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Originally Posted by terrorblade (Post 1324949)
Make sure that there will be no rat watching you because he might become a better ninja master than you.

That'd just be incredibly silly. Who could possibly think of such a dumb idea.

http://i.imgur.com/HU9mVbC.gif?1

SwiftNinjaFox 08-07-2014 05:27 PM

Or maybe fans don't like the TYPE of changes made to the mythology?

A lot of people don't like the "every character is intertwined and their pasts are all connected" alterations. That's been a big gripe with the Spider-Man origin changes. Instead of random circumstances and an accident, there's an almost destiny aspect to it and a lot of people don't like that.

Even the IDW storyline keeps the completely accidental aspect, but from what I've glimpsed, the movie REALLY makes everything tightly connected between April, the turtles, Splinter, and how she relates to their past and origins.

I've even read some comments that seem to suggest there's no real indication of Hamato Yoshi/Oroku Saki history explored in the film. Dunno if that's true. I'll find out in 30 minutes. Well, starting in 30 minutes. :P

Shark_Blade 08-07-2014 05:28 PM

Can't deal with changes? Let it go, move on. :tcool:

SwiftNinjaFox 08-07-2014 05:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Shark_Blade (Post 1324957)
Can't deal with changes? Let it go, move on. :tcool:

Wouldn't that suggest nobody has the right to have an opinion on Coming Out of Their Shells, TMNT 3, or The Next Mutation as well? ;)

TurtleTitan97 08-07-2014 05:33 PM

Of course people are gonna upset by the changes. They turned the Foot, a ninja clan, into a paramilitary, Shredder into basically a robo-ninja, just like what happen to Silver Samurai in The Wolverine, and for some reason decided to go ahead and radically redesign the Turtles and put all this unnecessary junk on them when the could have just simply retain the classic elements of their designs. Personally, the Turtles in the OOTS video game would be my ideal design for a live action ninja turtles movies.

Ramboraph4life aka Matt 08-07-2014 05:36 PM

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Originally Posted by SwiftNinjaFox (Post 1324959)
Wouldn't that suggest nobody has the right to have an opinion on Coming Out of Their Shells, TMNT 3, or The Next Mutation as well? ;)

And the alien/Shredder in the 2003 Cartoon.

It's not just 'it's different, and that's it'.

The Context of it, personal tastes, types of changes, and many more are part of the equation as well...

Werecat 08-07-2014 05:38 PM

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Originally Posted by TrickOrTreater (Post 1324953)
That'd just be incredibly silly. Who could possibly think of such a dumb idea.

http://i.imgur.com/HU9mVbC.gif?1

I guess all animals are dumb since they learn from watching. Especially apes, how dare they learn just from watching. Don't the apes know they need an education system and multiple teachers in order to teach them to hit one block all fancy like!

TrickOrTreater 08-07-2014 05:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Werecat (Post 1324969)
I guess all animals are dumb since they learn from watching. Especially apes, how dare they learn just from watching. Don't the apes know they need an education system and multiple teachers in order to teach them to hit one block all fancy like!

Sigh.

Spoilers for anybody who cares:

Spoiler:
Apparently the Splinter in this new movie learned martial arts from a book. Not Hamato yoshi. What you just said would make sense if I was railing against Splinter learning his skills from Hamato Yoshi and not some f*cking book he found. As it is now you're just rambling incoherently.

THGhost 08-07-2014 05:45 PM

How about Hamato Yoshi either being a member of the Foot Ninja Clan with a pet rat, or actually being the pet rat of a member of the Foot Ninja Clan? :P

TrickOrTreater 08-07-2014 05:47 PM

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Originally Posted by THGhost (Post 1324976)
How about Hamato Yoshi either being a member of the Foot Ninja Clan with a pet rat, or actually being the pet rat of a member of the Foot Ninja Clan? :P

Literally either one of those would have been better.

Werecat 08-07-2014 05:51 PM

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Originally Posted by TrickOrTreater (Post 1324972)
Sigh.

Spoilers for anybody who cares:

Spoiler:
Apparently the Splinter in this new movie learned martial arts from a book. Not Hamato yoshi. What you just said would make sense if I was railing against Splinter learning his skills from Hamato Yoshi and not some f*cking book he found. As it is now you're just rambling incoherently.

Do you like not read or watch any science article at all? I am guessing no because the thought of imitating is absurd. Well guess what. Everything that exists today is absurd! Experts said radios would never exist. Experts said the atomic bomb would never go off. Experts said the internet would never exist.

Now todays experts are wise enough to not be so pessimistic because now they understand the three laws!

1 When a distinguished but elderly scientist states something is possible, he is almost certainly right. When he states that something is impossible, he is very probably wrong.
2 The only way of discovering the limits of the possible is to venture a little way past them into the impossible
3 Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic.

Perhaps the lore of the turtle bros doesn't need a pessimistic mindset. Instead the lore requires a curious mind who is willing to make sense of the absurd.

Edit: Also do you not understand I am not being serious. I do not treat TMNT like politics, that is just silly.

TrickOrTreater 08-07-2014 05:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Werecat (Post 1324986)
Do you like not read or watch any science article at all? I am guessing no because the thought of imitating is absurd. Well guess what. Everything that exists today is absurd! Experts said radios would never exist. Experts said the atomic bomb would never go off. Experts said the internet would never exist.

Now todays experts are wise enough to not be so pessimistic because now they understand the three laws!

1 When a distinguished but elderly scientist states something is possible, he is almost certainly right. When he states that something is impossible, he is very probably wrong.
2 The only way of discovering the limits of the possible is to venture a little way past them into the impossible
3 Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic.

Perhaps the lore of the turtle bros doesn't need a pessimistic mindset. Instead the lore requires a curious mind who is willing to make sense of the absurd.

Edit: Also do you not understand I am being not being serious. I do not treat TMNT like politics, that is just silly.

What is happening.

Xiewin 08-07-2014 05:56 PM

I heard that the script was rewritten 4 times? Is this true? if so, no wonder the movie turned out to be a mess.

terrorblade 08-07-2014 05:57 PM

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Originally Posted by TrickOrTreater (Post 1324987)
What is happening.

Real life ninja turtles.
http://i.imgur.com/vwMin.gif


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