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Autbot_Benz 08-14-2014 11:34 AM

Screen Junkies Video How TO Fix Turtles 2
 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1yY0tnsxtL0

TigerClaw 08-14-2014 12:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Autbot_Benz (Post 1332646)

That is a good video, They list everything that's needed to make the 2nd film better.

beeshaw 08-14-2014 01:15 PM

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Originally Posted by TigerClaw (Post 1332667)
That is a good video, They list everything that's needed to make the 2nd film better.

All good points were made....except for The Rock as Casey. :trolleye:

IndigoErth 08-14-2014 01:49 PM

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Originally Posted by beeshaw (Post 1332702)
All good points were made....except for The Rock as Casey. :trolleye:

*nod* Would be as blind of a choice as Knoxville.


Also... now I want a Berry Punch Crush t-shirt.

Bry 08-14-2014 01:50 PM

Aiiie, Nick Mundy.

I've... agreed with him a feeeew times in the past, but man does his shtick get tiresome. And "The Rock as Casey" is a legitimately awful idea.

The Marvel comparisons from the other dudes about how you can please (almost) everybody are right on the money, though. That all their competition insist on not taking notes is pretty idiotic.

massakre 08-14-2014 01:55 PM

Can someone touch on the key points from this vid? I can't view the video right now

beeshaw 08-14-2014 02:14 PM

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Originally Posted by massakre (Post 1332733)
Can someone touch on the key points from this vid? I can't view the video right now


More time for the Turtles, not as much April.

You've told your origin, now just don't mention it again. Don't retcon it, just move on...

Bring Fitchner/Sacks back to be THE Shredder and involve Krang as his boss. (Darth Vader/Emperor kind of dynamic)

Embrace the history. Bring in Dimension X, Bebop & Rocksteady, Casey Jones...yadda, yadda, yadda.

Nothing that hasn't been discussed on here honestly.

TigerClaw 08-14-2014 02:26 PM

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Originally Posted by beeshaw (Post 1332749)
More time for the Turtles, not as much April.

You've told your origin, now just don't mention it again. Don't retcon it, just move on...

Bring Fitchner/Sacks back to be THE Shredder and involve Krang as his boss. (Darth Vader/Emperor kind of dynamic)

Embrace the history. Bring in Dimension X, Bebop & Rocksteady, Casey Jones...yadda, yadda, yadda.

Nothing that hasn't been discussed on here honestly.

However, They forgot about Karai, She was underused in the movie, She should have a bigger role in the sequel.

IndigoErth 08-14-2014 02:27 PM

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Originally Posted by beeshaw (Post 1332749)
More time for the Turtles, not as much April.

Was thinking last night that for some of the film it would have been such an easy fix based on simple perspective. *facepalm* Case in point:
Spoiler:
When the Turtles ask/tell April to meet up with them. Instead of the camera focused on her - and making it look like it's an April movie and just getting glimpses of the Turtles in that scene - we should have instead seen the guys hanging out just shooting the breeze (much needed down time footage) while waiting for her to show up and gotten that scene from their perspective, not hers.

Bry 08-14-2014 02:41 PM

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Originally Posted by TigerClaw (Post 1332761)
However, They forgot about Karai, She was underused in the movie, She should have a bigger role in the sequel.

Didn't Raphael smash the truck she was in off a cliff? If so... she's probably dead.

Netkeeper 08-14-2014 02:42 PM

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Originally Posted by beeshaw (Post 1332702)
All good points were made....except for The Rock as Casey. :trolleye:

The Rock would be AWESOME as Casey.

DioLeo451 08-14-2014 02:47 PM

More turtle screentime more time with the brothers and Splinter and in the lair take away all their extra gear and instead just go for signature colored bandanas you know just keep it simple this sequel can work if done right

TigerClaw 08-14-2014 02:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Bry (Post 1332778)
Didn't Raphael smash the truck she was in off a cliff? If so... she's probably dead.

Yeah, But at the end, You can see her moving inside, So she's technically not dead.

ScrewtheMirageTMNT 08-14-2014 02:57 PM

I don't want sacks as shredder, I was never for the idea.

Galactus 08-14-2014 03:01 PM

"Let's have Fichtner be Shredder"

No..just no.

RaphaelinSTL 08-14-2014 03:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Bry (Post 1332729)
Aiiie, Nick Mundy.

I've... agreed with him a feeeew times in the past, but man does his shtick get tiresome. And "The Rock as Casey" is a legitimately awful idea.

The Marvel comparisons from the other dudes about how you can please (almost) everybody are right on the money, though. That all their competition insist on not taking notes is pretty idiotic.

Exactly, the Rock playing Casey Jones is a horrible....horrible idea. I didn't mind him in Pain & Gain (a surprisingly decent Bay film with a touch of dark Tarantino vibe) but I am just sick of Dwayne Johnson as an actor.

chrisdude 08-14-2014 03:27 PM

Why does this dude shout so much? But I agree with some of these points.

More Turtles - I don't feel like the turtles got shorted on screen time or focus. There's no math behind my feeling, I just didn't feel that way. But I totally agree that the turtles can carry a film more than they did.

Growth - There's merit to that. I can totally understand wanting this. It was interesting in TMNT. But I disagree. Perpetual fun-loving teenagers for the win.

Forget the Origin Story - YES. I'm so over it.

Get a Real Shredder - Noooo. Yeah, Shredder is supposed to be scary, but they've already established these huge, powerful turtles. So, I don't expect to see Saki, a ninja, take them on without help. (It would be bad ass if Saki was just that good, though.) But, honestly, I'd rather see the Crooked Ninja Turtle Gang than to have another movie about Shredder.
And I was okay with Eric Sachs Shredder, but bringing that idea back would just make other fans mad again, and I don't want to hear the whining.

Embrace the TMNT Universe - Yes please. Krang (or The Kraang) is my #1 hope for the sequel. If Shredder's working for him, that's whatever. Plus Neutrinos. Krang War is a best-case scenario, in my book.

The Rock as Casey Jones - I'll take it. By the same reasoning that I'm okay with the Shredder armor. The scale is larger. It would also work to use the Nickelodeon idea, and have Casey decked out with dangerous gear. Heck, do both. The Rock with explosives.

TigerClaw 08-14-2014 03:39 PM

I don't know about the Rock as Casey Jones, Isn't he a little too old for Megan Fox, if they play around with the romance angle between the characters? On top of that, Mikey would become Jealous if he say him hitting on her.

Blips 08-14-2014 06:02 PM

I agree with most of the points brought up in the video and the panel seems to have been won over by the Turtles themselves in the final film. The biggest point I agree with is the filmmakers using some of the wilder ideas from the cartoons: the Technodrome, Bebop, Rocksteady, etc.

As far as the Rock as Casey Jones, I think that's a terrible idea and it seems everyone else on that panel does too. Just watch their reactions. Nick Mundy who suggests the casting in the first place is a big fan of the Rock, which is apparent in this video where he gets to interview him.

Coola Yagami 08-14-2014 06:18 PM

No Turtles growing up until we get to know THESE turtles. We hardly knew these guys. Let's know em first before they get older. Save that for part 3.

The only way to fix it is rebooting it. When we have to flat out ignore the origin, it's time to reboot it. Too much damage has been done to just pretend there isn't a part 2 slapped on this thing.


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