Screen Junkies Video How TO Fix Turtles 2

*Autbot_Benz* · 08-14-2014, 11:34 AM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1yY0tnsxtL0

*TigerClaw* · 08-14-2014, 12:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Autbot_Benz

That is a good video, They list everything that's needed to make the 2nd film better.

beeshaw · 08-14-2014, 01:15 PM

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Originally Posted by TigerClaw

That is a good video, They list everything that's needed to make the 2nd film better.

All good points were made....except for The Rock as Casey.

*IndigoErth* · 08-14-2014, 01:49 PM

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Originally Posted by beeshaw

All good points were made....except for The Rock as Casey.

*nod* Would be as blind of a choice as Knoxville.

Also... now I want a Berry Punch Crush t-shirt.

*Bry* · 08-14-2014, 01:50 PM

Aiiie, Nick Mundy.

I've... agreed with him a feeeew times in the past, but man does his shtick get tiresome. And "The Rock as Casey" is a legitimately awful idea.

The Marvel comparisons from the other dudes about how you can please (almost) everybody are right on the money, though. That all their competition insist on not taking notes is pretty idiotic.

massakre · 08-14-2014, 01:55 PM

Can someone touch on the key points from this vid? I can't view the video right now

beeshaw · 08-14-2014, 02:14 PM

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Originally Posted by massakre

Can someone touch on the key points from this vid? I can't view the video right now

More time for the Turtles, not as much April.

You've told your origin, now just don't mention it again. Don't retcon it, just move on...

Bring Fitchner/Sacks back to be THE Shredder and involve Krang as his boss. (Darth Vader/Emperor kind of dynamic)

Embrace the history. Bring in Dimension X, Bebop & Rocksteady, Casey Jones...yadda, yadda, yadda.

Nothing that hasn't been discussed on here honestly.

*TigerClaw* · 08-14-2014, 02:26 PM

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Originally Posted by beeshaw

More time for the Turtles, not as much April.

You've told your origin, now just don't mention it again. Don't retcon it, just move on...

Bring Fitchner/Sacks back to be THE Shredder and involve Krang as his boss. (Darth Vader/Emperor kind of dynamic)

Embrace the history. Bring in Dimension X, Bebop & Rocksteady, Casey Jones...yadda, yadda, yadda.

Nothing that hasn't been discussed on here honestly.

However, They forgot about Karai, She was underused in the movie, She should have a bigger role in the sequel.

*IndigoErth* · 08-14-2014, 02:27 PM

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Originally Posted by beeshaw

More time for the Turtles, not as much April.

Was thinking last night that for some of the film it would have been such an easy fix based on simple perspective. *facepalm* Case in point:

Spoiler:

*Bry* · 08-14-2014, 02:41 PM

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Originally Posted by TigerClaw

However, They forgot about Karai, She was underused in the movie, She should have a bigger role in the sequel.

Didn't Raphael smash the truck she was in off a cliff? If so... she's probably dead.

*Netkeeper* · 08-14-2014, 02:42 PM

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Originally Posted by beeshaw

All good points were made....except for The Rock as Casey.

The Rock would be AWESOME as Casey.

DioLeo451 · 08-14-2014, 02:47 PM

More turtle screentime more time with the brothers and Splinter and in the lair take away all their extra gear and instead just go for signature colored bandanas you know just keep it simple this sequel can work if done right

*TigerClaw* · 08-14-2014, 02:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Bry

Didn't Raphael smash the truck she was in off a cliff? If so... she's probably dead.

Yeah, But at the end, You can see her moving inside, So she's technically not dead.

ScrewtheMirageTMNT · 08-14-2014, 02:57 PM

I don't want sacks as shredder, I was never for the idea.

*Galactus* · 08-14-2014, 03:01 PM

"Let's have Fichtner be Shredder"

No..just no.

*RaphaelinSTL* · 08-14-2014, 03:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Bry

Aiiie, Nick Mundy.

I've... agreed with him a feeeew times in the past, but man does his shtick get tiresome. And "The Rock as Casey" is a legitimately awful idea.

The Marvel comparisons from the other dudes about how you can please (almost) everybody are right on the money, though. That all their competition insist on not taking notes is pretty idiotic.

Exactly, the Rock playing Casey Jones is a horrible....horrible idea. I didn't mind him in Pain & Gain (a surprisingly decent Bay film with a touch of dark Tarantino vibe) but I am just sick of Dwayne Johnson as an actor.

*chrisdude* · 08-14-2014, 03:27 PM

Why does this dude shout so much? But I agree with some of these points.

More Turtles - I don't feel like the turtles got shorted on screen time or focus. There's no math behind my feeling, I just didn't feel that way. But I totally agree that the turtles can carry a film more than they did.

Growth - There's merit to that. I can totally understand wanting this. It was interesting in TMNT. But I disagree. Perpetual fun-loving teenagers for the win.

Forget the Origin Story - YES. I'm so over it.

Get a Real Shredder - Noooo. Yeah, Shredder is supposed to be scary, but they've already established these huge, powerful turtles. So, I don't expect to see Saki, a ninja, take them on without help. (It would be bad ass if Saki was just that good, though.) But, honestly, I'd rather see the Crooked Ninja Turtle Gang than to have another movie about Shredder.
And I was okay with Eric Sachs Shredder, but bringing that idea back would just make other fans mad again, and I don't want to hear the whining.

Embrace the TMNT Universe - Yes please. Krang (or The Kraang) is my #1 hope for the sequel. If Shredder's working for him, that's whatever. Plus Neutrinos. Krang War is a best-case scenario, in my book.

The Rock as Casey Jones - I'll take it. By the same reasoning that I'm okay with the Shredder armor. The scale is larger. It would also work to use the Nickelodeon idea, and have Casey decked out with dangerous gear. Heck, do both. The Rock with explosives.

*TigerClaw* · 08-14-2014, 03:39 PM

I don't know about the Rock as Casey Jones, Isn't he a little too old for Megan Fox, if they play around with the romance angle between the characters? On top of that, Mikey would become Jealous if he say him hitting on her.

Blips · 08-14-2014, 06:02 PM

I agree with most of the points brought up in the video and the panel seems to have been won over by the Turtles themselves in the final film. The biggest point I agree with is the filmmakers using some of the wilder ideas from the cartoons: the Technodrome, Bebop, Rocksteady, etc.

As far as the Rock as Casey Jones, I think that's a terrible idea and it seems everyone else on that panel does too. Just watch their reactions. Nick Mundy who suggests the casting in the first place is a big fan of the Rock, which is apparent in this video where he gets to interview him.

*Coola Yagami* · 08-14-2014, 06:18 PM

No Turtles growing up until we get to know THESE turtles. We hardly knew these guys. Let's know em first before they get older. Save that for part 3.

The only way to fix it is rebooting it. When we have to flat out ignore the origin, it's time to reboot it. Too much damage has been done to just pretend there isn't a part 2 slapped on this thing.

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08-14-2014, 03:27 PM	#17
chrisdude Foot Elite Join Date: Aug 2012 Location: North Carolina Posts: 2,708	Why does this dude shout so much? But I agree with some of these points. More Turtles - I don't feel like the turtles got shorted on screen time or focus. There's no math behind my feeling, I just didn't feel that way. But I totally agree that the turtles can carry a film more than they did. Growth - There's merit to that. I can totally understand wanting this. It was interesting in TMNT. But I disagree. Perpetual fun-loving teenagers for the win. Forget the Origin Story - YES. I'm so over it. Get a Real Shredder - Noooo. Yeah, Shredder is supposed to be scary, but they've already established these huge, powerful turtles. So, I don't expect to see Saki, a ninja, take them on without help. (It would be bad ass if Saki was just that good, though.) But, honestly, I'd rather see the Crooked Ninja Turtle Gang than to have another movie about Shredder. And I was okay with Eric Sachs Shredder, but bringing that idea back would just make other fans mad again, and I don't want to hear the whining. Embrace the TMNT Universe - Yes please. Krang (or The Kraang) is my #1 hope for the sequel. If Shredder's working for him, that's whatever. Plus Neutrinos. Krang War is a best-case scenario, in my book. The Rock as Casey Jones - I'll take it. By the same reasoning that I'm okay with the Shredder armor. The scale is larger. It would also work to use the Nickelodeon idea, and have Casey decked out with dangerous gear. Heck, do both. The Rock with explosives. __________________ PSN/Miiverse: MikeFarber

08-14-2014, 03:39 PM	#18
TigerClaw Mutant Tiger Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Hialeah, Florida, USA Posts: 14,161	I don't know about the Rock as Casey Jones, Isn't he a little too old for Megan Fox, if they play around with the romance angle between the characters? On top of that, Mikey would become Jealous if he say him hitting on her. __________________ Follow me on my Tiktok https://www.tiktok.com/@tygerclaw305

08-14-2014, 06:18 PM	#20
Coola Yagami Overlord Join Date: Jan 2004 Posts: 15,685	No Turtles growing up until we get to know THESE turtles. We hardly knew these guys. Let's know em first before they get older. Save that for part 3. The only way to fix it is rebooting it. When we have to flat out ignore the origin, it's time to reboot it. Too much damage has been done to just pretend there isn't a part 2 slapped on this thing. __________________ "I was down with TMNT once, but then they changed what TMNT was. Now what I was down with is no longer TMNT and what TMNT now is seems weird and scary. And it'll happen to YOU." Check out my blog for Comic Reviews and other things. https://markepicblogofrandomness.blogspot.com/ I also started The AEW Crew, the All Elite Wrestling Fan Club! https://www.facebook.com/groups/637508120044168/

08-14-2014, 11:34 AM	#1
Autbot_Benz Hellblazer Join Date: Jun 2014 Location: Ventura California Posts: 9,171	Screen Junkies Video How TO Fix Turtles 2 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1yY0tnsxtL0 __________________ I respect what FW cartoon did for the turtles franchise but it is the most overrated and hard to watch of the 3 turtles cartoons.

08-14-2014, 01:55 PM	#6
massakre Foot Soldier Join Date: Jan 2014 Location: Indiana Posts: 182	Can someone touch on the key points from this vid? I can't view the video right now

08-14-2014, 02:47 PM	#12
DioLeo451 Hench Mutant Join Date: May 2014 Posts: 492	More turtle screentime more time with the brothers and Splinter and in the lair take away all their extra gear and instead just go for signature colored bandanas you know just keep it simple this sequel can work if done right

08-14-2014, 02:57 PM	#14
ScrewtheMirageTMNT Hench Mutant Join Date: Jul 2014 Posts: 493	I don't want sacks as shredder, I was never for the idea.

08-14-2014, 03:01 PM	#15
Galactus Foot Elite Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 3,009	"Let's have Fichtner be Shredder" No..just no.

08-14-2014, 06:02 PM	#19
Blips Thug Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 53	I agree with most of the points brought up in the video and the panel seems to have been won over by the Turtles themselves in the final film. The biggest point I agree with is the filmmakers using some of the wilder ideas from the cartoons: the Technodrome, Bebop, Rocksteady, etc. As far as the Rock as Casey Jones, I think that's a terrible idea and it seems everyone else on that panel does too. Just watch their reactions. Nick Mundy who suggests the casting in the first place is a big fan of the Rock, which is apparent in this video where he gets to interview him.