So... um... Bishop...
 

I caught the middle of the episodes today.... and Bishop is some good guy Utron who basically looks like all the other human Utroms but with shades....? What of all did I miss?

The Utrom's here are a peaceful, more intelligent tribe of Kraang. Bishop was not a villain here, but his fighting style was familiar and the fact that his mission is to stop the Kraang keeps him in line enough with his source material.

I'm glad he wasn't the ruthless, alien obsessed villain he used to be, since the Kraang are so dumb that 2k3 Bishop would mop the floor with them. I do hope he and the rest of the Utroms link up with the EPF in season 4 though.

Spoilers in case nobody saw the episode still
 

I have to say, I can be fine with recreations of Hun and Zog, but I really don't like this being Bishop. I already am disappointed in Nolan North voicing him (personally believe someone else should have done it to be unique), but why turn the complex villain of the 2003 series into another alien? I get it's based on the book that was published, but seriously this is not a decision I agree with.

Though I'm interested in seeing the Utroms again, this feels like a disappointment addition to the roster. Although everyone can finally shut up about Bishop, I am nonetheless annoyed this is how they bring him in. The reveal with the actual chess piece was cool though. :)

You know that book was based off of the episode scripts, right?

Yes, I am aware of that. Still a great episode and by far the best of the third season.

Bishop being what he is I'm honestly disappointed in. He just doesn't stand out too much, especially with the other Normans we've seen, glasses or not. I'll probably get accustomed to it, but it's extremely jarring to me personally much more than Hun.

Personally, I quite liked this version of Bishop.

I get the feeling Bishop is a nod to 2k3 Shredder. Just like Shredder was an Utrom in 4kids, now Nick's Bishop is an Utrom.

Personally I think it works really well. He looks and acts exactly like Bishop (unlike Nick's Hun), and he'll probably lead the EPF too.

I like this move. I never saw it coming, it's a very unique turn on the character, & it adds another layer of Mirage (utroms) to the mythos.

Plus it aims to appeal to whiny 4kids fans without necessarily giving in entirely. I like that.

I actually like his he was handled, unlike Hun. Though I'm mostly interested in the fact he pointed out Kraang Sub Prime was once an Utrom as well. I'd been wondering why he seemed so different that the other Kraang.

Getting kinda sick of the lazy designs here. Slap some shades on one of the countless Kraang drones we're seen since episode 1, call him Bishop and call it a day. Use Bradford's human form, just color the arms metallic, call him Chrome Dome and call it a day. I'm wonder when all is said and done, how many of these lazy re-use characters we're gonna get. Maybe put a new hat on the tea part girl and call her Shadow.

I actually asked Brandon Auman that since Bishop is an Utrom in this series and not a government agent hell bent on expunging the Earth of all alien life.
Would Dirk Savage be closer to filling Bishops 2k3 role.

And he answered
"Wait and see if Bishop comes back. ;)" So we may see the original bishop we know and love or rather loath.

What on earth? Bishop's design looked exactly like the Kraang droids from day 1. Its not a re-used design, Bishop also said they based the drones on his first one. And he looks exactly like him.

Calling it lazy makes me think you missed the entire point and it flew over your head.

It's not a matter of lazy, they have to make the best of their resources due to budget constraints. That being said, I think all of these moves have been clever regardless of that, but especially because of it.

You understand cartoons aren't real right? The Kraang didn't actually steal his suit, the writers made that up when they were developing season 3.

1) I think he missed the sunglasses. 2) Bishop said The Kraang copied his suit. 3) There are other shows that further evolve someone or something's history, that are not even planned from the beginning. For example, Adventure Time's I Remember You.

Even more interesting to add is the relationship Subprime and Bishop had in their past(seeing as Bishop called KSP brother where this was simply because they have been both Utroms or simply because they are really blood related.) I also wondered why Bishop stayed back with the Utroms while KSP turned back to the Kraang. A huge headscratcher for me to be honest and i truly hope their relationship will be given a bit more substance :)

Another thing that bugged me however on Bishop was that he looked like a generic Kraang, even Kraang Subprime got a unique design while Bishop was rather bland to be honest. Also this is more wishful thinking as fact but wouldn't it be cool if Bishop has the same Tattoo as KSP just on the other side? I think this would be a nice touch but that's just me :)

I thought it was unexpected and I enjoyed it. I'm curious to see what they do with him in the future.

Having not watched a lot of 2k3 and hearing you guys on here talk about Bishop non-stop for years, I really liked the way they included him and the fact that they did at all. I love his design and the reveal that he was a good guy and a new incarnation of Utroms. I like how they are still paying homage to previous turtleverses.

You should watch the 2k3 series as a whole. Its still one of the strongest written TMNT cartoons.

I have always planned on watching most if not all of it, but I haven't got around to it yet. I watched it religiously for the first 2 seasons when they were first airing and I loved it. By the time it got around to FF, I had completely lost interest.