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Ninturtle 11-21-2015 05:32 PM

Am I the only one who doesn't like it when the turtles meet dinosaurs in the cartoons
 
I honestly don't like when the turtles meet dinosaurs, the dinosaurs are so inaccurate it bothers me . I tne 2003 dinosaurs looked like they were reconstructed in the 1920s. The 2012 HSH special looked like it used Jurassic Park for science ( it isn't even close ) , Raptors and T-Rex weren't feathered , Pteradon had a beak with teeth like shape, ect. . Is this just me or do others share my gripe.

Prowler 11-21-2015 05:34 PM

I personally don't mind.

Tetsu Deinonychus 11-21-2015 05:55 PM

I think pop-culture is going to need a lot more time to get used to the idea that Dinosaurs had feathers.

Innacurate or not, the image of dinosaurs as scaley reptilian beasts has been cemented by decades of film and television as "what dinosaurs look like" and the new view of them as giant monster birds with feathers is going to need more time to catch on.

I don't mind if TMNT cartoons go with "classic" over accurate, but that's just me.

CyberCubed 11-21-2015 07:20 PM

Why would the TMNT not meet dinosaurs because its not accurate?

Ninturtle 11-21-2015 08:02 PM

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Originally Posted by CyberCubed (Post 1520899)
Why would the TMNT not meet dinosaurs because its not accurate?

It just bothers me because it doesn't feel like they're meeting dinosaurs just fake out dated completely scaly representations of dinosaurs. It really takes away from the experience. I'm not saying they shouldn't do it as it sells toys , but it'd be really nice if they made them accurate like IDW did from what I've seen.

sdp 11-21-2015 08:55 PM

It bothers you that some creatures which we still don't know what they looked like don't look like what we now think they look like which is something that changes all the time but all the pseudo-science they use is fine?


The only one you could criticize is the Nick show since we now know most of them are feathered but even then when you see that Jurassic World didn't take the risk it's difficult to think that they were going to. Now I for one love feathered dinosaurs, I used to hate the idea like most of the people do now but after seeing some kick ass depictions of them I embrace them with open arms. Before the first Jurassic Park we thought dinosaurs were still slow dumb lizards and it was Jurassic Park that changed people's minds and shortly after we stopped seeing the "old" depiction of dinosaurs like the tripod T-Rex, sadly Jurassic World didn't go that route but we just need a something big to expose the general audience and others will follow.

Powder 11-21-2015 09:20 PM

I don't mind, but I'm not a huge dinosaur fan, per se. I love seeing them appear in pop culture, but as an overweight American, the historical & scientific aspects of their being is admittedly of little interest to me. Besides, TMNT's never been terribly accurate to any of the things it draws influence from, be it asian culture or even the turtle species itself. We've also got races of Dinosaur aliens & the like to consider, so their world clearly plays by different rules anyway.

OrangeNinja1987 11-21-2015 09:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Ninturtle (Post 1520864)
I honestly don't like when the turtles meet dinosaurs, the dinosaurs are so inaccurate it bothers me . I tne 2003 dinosaurs looked like they were reconstructed in the 1920s. The 2012 HSH special looked like it used Jurassic Park for science ( it isn't even close ) , Raptors and T-Rex weren't feathered , Pteradon had a beak with teeth like shape, ect. . Is this just me or do others share my gripe.

I'm going to be a paleontologist. I love seeing dinosaurs in shows and movies, but them being inaccurate is really bothersome. They are almost never done right and seems like no one takes paleontology as a serious science and anyone who complains about huge inaccuracies in paleontology are seen as people who haven't grown out of the dino phase in childhood or crazy nitpickers.
That being said, I actually loved the Half Shell Heroes special. While the dinosaurs weren't feathered, they did them better than any movie/show I've seen in a long time. The pterosaurs weren't teethed (common mistake) and it was actually called a Pterandon (high-five, TMNT!). Donatello actually pointed out that T.rex had great eyesight and that raptors were very smart and adaptable. I liked the touch of the small dinosaurs, because those are often ignored. And all of the dinosaurs stood in the correct posture!
Besides the feathers, my only question is why was there a T.rex 100-million-years ago instead of in its correct time 65-million-years ago? They could have said it was an Allosaurus, which is very similar and lived closer to that time. And too bad they got the Spinosaurus wrong, but since that was a robot I can forgive it a little.

Tetsu Deinonychus 11-22-2015 09:53 AM

I'm watching it now.

Honestly, I think you'd have more of a point if this had a realistic and detailed art style. But, this animation is so stylized and caricaturized that I'm not sure how much "accuracy" is possible. It's kinda like complaining that the Simpsons aren't anatomically correct.

plastroncafe 11-22-2015 11:02 AM

I don't know that it bothers me, but I will say that I'd love more accurate depictions of dinosaurs.

Ninturtle 11-22-2015 01:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Tetsu Deinonychus Power-5 (Post 1521081)
I'm watching it now.

Honestly, I think you'd have more of a point if this had a realistic and detailed art style. But, this animation is so stylized and caricaturized that I'm not sure how much "accuracy" is possible. It's kinda like complaining that the Simpsons aren't anatomically correct.

I was refering to the lack of feathers , they could easily add feathers without affecting the art style. The art style inaccuracies weren't ones I complained about.

GoldMutant 11-22-2015 01:50 PM

I might not be a huge expert on the dinosaur field, but what I think is the Triceratons might be too advanced in the dinosaur genetics and structure as they are human like. Maybe the actual appearance of them at first were based on original dinosaurs, but they adapted over time and became more human like in thinking overtime. Probably best the Triceratons at one point are shown as actual dinosaur appearances before becoming the beings they are now.

pennydreadful 11-22-2015 03:36 PM

Well, it doesn't really bother me because it's a cartoon... but then my avatar is of an unrealistic dino anyway. :lol:

TigerClaw 11-22-2015 03:37 PM

I don't mind it at all.

the day will come when a movie comes out, with an accurate depiction of Dinosaurs.

But then they would discover another thing, and the Dinosaurs as we know now, would become inaccurate.

Wesley 11-23-2015 09:38 AM

I don't mind. I thought they looked alright in the tv shows and films that I've watched. I don't know much about dinosaurs, though, so I guess that's why I'm not bothered.

grizzlyaddams 11-23-2015 01:19 PM

Just look at Pixars upcoming "The Good Dinosaur."

If Pixar won't do it, who will?!

Ninturtle 11-23-2015 06:02 PM

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Originally Posted by OrangeNinja1987 (Post 1520969)
I'm going to be a paleontologist. I love seeing dinosaurs in shows and movies, but them being inaccurate is really bothersome. They are almost never done right and seems like no one takes paleontology as a serious science and anyone who complains about huge inaccuracies in paleontology are seen as people who haven't grown out of the dino phase in childhood or crazy nitpickers.
That being said, I actually loved the Half Shell Heroes special. While the dinosaurs weren't feathered, they did them better than any movie/show I've seen in a long time. The pterosaurs weren't teethed (common mistake) and it was actually called a Pterandon (high-five, TMNT!). Donatello actually pointed out that T.rex had great eyesight and that raptors were very smart and adaptable. I liked the touch of the small dinosaurs, because those are often ignored. And all of the dinosaurs stood in the correct posture!
Besides the feathers, my only question is why was there a T.rex 100-million-years ago instead of in its correct time 65-million-years ago? They could have said it was an Allosaurus, which is very similar and lived closer to that time. And too bad they got the Spinosaurus wrong, but since that was a robot I can forgive it a little.

The Pteradon kind of had a tooth shape beak which was inaccurate, I know Pteradon didn't have teeth ( I could see how you got that from the wording of my sentence ). I guess they used the T .rex because it's super popular. I like how they didn't call the Raptors Velociraptors because Velociraptors are like 1 and a half feet tall.


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