the ot tmnt on blu ray in europe

[pferreira]

Originally Posted by rickwj324

I'm pretty certain the company that does these (and other complete series like He-man) is quite notorious for horrible quality. These are definitely SD videos and if I'm not mistaken they are GERMAN ONLY AUDIO!! I know the other series they've done have been this way.
I'm not sure if they are region-locked, but whether they are or aren't I'm quite sure these are not worth buying.

Rick

You do realise people have made a big thing about the OT looking better on KSM releases than Lionsgate's US boxsets? If anything these guys are getting praise for what they've done with their releases.

Sometimes i wish i were german, or atleast understand the language.

[IMJ]

Verrrryyyyy curious as to whether or not these will be new scans of the existing cells or film in HD, or if the Blu Ray discs are just being used as a mass storage medium to pack that many episodes into fewer discs.

Either way, I'd buy this if released in the U.S. because I haven't bought the DVD's.

[Ryanator008]

Originally Posted by AleXviD

But why? OT looks like crap as it is, no need to compress it even harder.

The episodes of Pokemon on my computer look as good as the DVDs. I'm not even sure that they're compressed, unless my computer program did it automatically.

[TheSkeletonMan939]

Originally Posted by Ryanator008

The episodes of Pokemon on my computer look as good as the DVDs. I'm not even sure that they're compressed, unless my computer program did it automatically.

How did you acquire these Pokemon episodes? From YouTube? If so, they're compressed. Did you rip them from your DVDs at a bitrate you chose? If so, they're compressed. Did you just download them from some site? If so, they're probably compressed.

You may not be able to tell the visual difference between a copy on your computer and a DVD, but it's there.

Here's an example. Take a look at this image of the Young Justice episode "Endgame". It's 1080p, from iTunes.

Look pretty good, right? It's HD, so why wouldn't it?

Let's look at a shot from a few minutes later, at a high-speed chase with lots of background action. Right here.

Ew. That's kind of yucky. Look at how pixelated it is. Is the rest of the episode like that? Nope, as we can see a few seconds later, everything else looks fine.

Now let's go back to the Flash.

My God, that looks terrible. Remember, this is a 1080p HD copy of the episode from iTunes. What could cause this? Compression. According to Mediainfo this has a general bitrate of 5398. That disgusting compression in the Flash sequences is in every second of the episode, but there's not enough going on in most sequences for the bits to be spread so thin. I'm no huge expert on this, but I think that's logical, no?

So the big question is whether the company will take advantage of the Blu-Ray's space by providing better-looking, cleaner copies of the OT episodes, or whether they'll cram in as many episodes as humanly possibly onto the discs at the same okay-looking quality the DVDs have.

[rickwj324]

Originally Posted by pferreira

You do realise people have made a big thing about the OT looking better on KSM releases than Lionsgate's US boxsets? If anything these guys are getting praise for what they've done with their releases.

Nope...never heard that! If so, great! How about the language? Is it German only?

UPDATE: It looks like the audio is definitely GERMAN ONLY according to the ksmfilm.de website:

Original title: Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles
Country: USA
Year: 1987
Release Date: 20/01/2014
Picture format: 4:3, 1.33:1
Audio format: German (Dolby Digital 2.0)
Subtitles: Unspecified
Genre: Animation
Running time: about 1232 min.

Maybe the pic quality will be decent (??), but the GERMAN ONLY audio is a definite deal-breaker for me.

[Ryanator008]

Originally Posted by TheSkeletonMan939

How did you acquire these Pokemon episodes? From YouTube? If so, they're compressed. Did you rip them from your DVDs at a bitrate you chose? If so, they're compressed. Did you just download them from some site? If so, they're probably compressed.

You may not be able to tell the visual difference between a copy on your computer and a DVD, but it's there.

Here's an example. Take a look at this image of the Young Justice episode "Endgame". It's 1080p, from iTunes.

Look pretty good, right? It's HD, so why wouldn't it?

Let's look at a shot from a few minutes later, at a high-speed chase with lots of background action. Right here.

Ew. That's kind of yucky. Look at how pixelated it is. Is the rest of the episode like that? Nope, as we can see a few seconds later, everything else looks fine.

Now let's go back to the Flash.

My God, that looks terrible. Remember, this is a 1080p HD copy of the episode from iTunes. What could cause this? Compression. According to Mediainfo this has a general bitrate of 5398. That disgusting compression in the Flash sequences is in every second of the episode, but there's not enough going on in most sequences for the bits to be spread so thin. I'm no huge expert on this, but I think that's logical, no?

So the big question is whether the company will take advantage of the Blu-Ray's space by providing better-looking, cleaner copies of the OT episodes, or whether they'll cram in as many episodes as humanly possibly onto the discs at the same okay-looking quality the DVDs have.

Well that explains it.

[rickwj324]

How many people here would buy this even though the language is german-only?? I would import them in a second if they had an english track, but there's no way I could watch them in german. It's odd to not have the native language. Not all, but MOST releases of a movie or show released in countries other than it's native country will contain the native track even if it's not set as the primary track.

Originally Posted by rickwj324

How many people here would buy this even though the language is german-only?? I would import them in a second if they had an english track, but there's no way I could watch them in german. It's odd to not have the native language. Not all, but MOST releases of a movie or show released in countries other than it's native country will contain the native track even if it's not set as the primary track.

Ditto. I got my german alf dvds 'cuz they're unedited AND comes with the original english track as an option. It would be pointless to buy dvds you don't understand.

[saul]

The KSM DVD release of the OT had TWO files for each episode: 1 file was the edited German version, the other was the regular English version. I'm guessing the bluray will be the same.

The superior quality of the KSM DVD releases to the Lion's Gate US version has been well documented: http://forums.thetechnodrome.com/sho...902#post979902

The only downside to the DVD's was very very minor compression. If the only difference between the bluray and DVD is removal of the compression artifacts, then the bluray will be a sure winner.

[saul]

Looking at the Amazon listing for the KSM DVD's: http://www.amazon.de/Teenage-Mutant-...605129-9010128

They show both English and German for the audio. So unfortunately, unless it's a typo, it looks like the BluRay Amazon listing is German only.

[marcelangelo]

thats all true what you guys have said in those last comments..and so far I think it isn't really known what audio tracks will be on it in the end.I can only say I probably will check them out and report to you what the deal is with them.(I am living in germany...)
to alf and turtles I can only say even if you cannot understand the language with THESE particular two shows its worthwhile to check them out at least once, the synch is absolutely superb and mucho fun...I even like their german voices much better than their original voices(which is odd for me, I usually am overjoyed when I can see the english audio track of something american..).I always felt let down by the voice performance of fusco in alf, to my ears it sounds too monotonous and repetitive..in german alf is such a cool and rude individual it will make me laugh until I am no more

[rickwj324]

The stats directly from their website lists the following:

Original title: Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles
Country: USA
Year: 1987
Release Date: 20/01/2014
Picture format: 4:3, 1.33:1
Audio format: German (Dolby Digital 2.0)
Subtitles: Unspecified
Genre: Animation
Running time: about 1232 min.

That's the manufacturer's website, not amazon. I guess it could be wrong, but I'm not very hopeful.

[Aaronardo]

For god's sake, DVD companies, can't you release the 2k3 series on Blu-Ray?! It'd be much more worthwhile and much fewer people have the 2k3 series on DVD than the OT.

[rickwj324]

Originally Posted by ThatCollectorGuy

For god's sake, DVD companies, can't you release the 2k3 series on Blu-Ray?! It'd be much more worthwhile and much fewer people have the 2k3 series on DVD than the OT.

I sooooooo wish they would do that, or at leadt re-release the dvds in full seasons. I didnt see much of that show and would like to see in it's entirety.

[KGC]

Gorgeous!
Unfortunately in Italy was never released even a DVD, and I think that will never go out even the blu ray, incredible.

[Storm Eagle]

This thread hasn't been touched in a while, but I've recently learned that professional media distribution companies shouldn't be releasing things like this on Blu-ray unless they might be upgrading it to high definition and improving the audio. They are not to use Blu-rays for the purpose of mass storage. That goes against the Blu-ray licensing terms and companies could be prevented from creating future Blu-ray titles. So if even an overseas company gets away with such things, it's most likely because they have little to no respect for copyright or licensing law.

[FlogginMcMurryZombiePizza]

Or they have different views on copyright and licensing.
There's a reason why, example, the Japanese can use music or characters in their shows or anime but if it's to be imported here, the names and music must be altered or cut.

Different regions and countries have different views. Once that product is brought into another region or country, then it becomes a problem.
I dont know Europe's stance or rules on it.