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Yeah I don't buy into quasi-magical thinking.
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How is it a magical way of thinking? There are several scientific studies that have proven that positive thinking is not only good for mental health, but for physical health\longevity too.
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I get what some folks are going for, but positive affirmations really do fall somewhere near "self-delusion" in that they really only affect the short-term mindset of the individual. You can't happy-think things that are objectively bad into being good, nor vice-versa. Just sayin'.
In this case, most people have very specific criteria for what they want in a TMNT movie. Most of them, in turn, have radically different wants/expectations based on what TMNT means to them. What I find telling, and indeed troubling, is that a large number of self-identifying "fans" - regardless of which TMNT incarnation they prefer - have already seen enough to be displeased about this movie. For me, so far, it's back and forth. Honestly, I don't expect it to be very good. Yes, a lot of things turn out far greater than the sum of their parts, and in fact, almost every successful blockbuster movie ever made was earlier predicted to be (and indeed, put together as) a giant disaster, and were only great by complete accident. So no, we won't know for sure until it's finished. But one thing keeps nagging at me more than anything, and that's that I'm *almost* 100% sure there was no actual finished script. I would seriously bet that the movie was put together based off of some Frankenstein construction made of the less-offensive parts of the earlier, rejected script (you know, the one they were 100% going to film as recently as last year until the internet sh*t a brick?), and some wikipedia articles and Google images. They simply had NO time to commission, edit, and re-write an entirely new script in the window they had. I'm pretty sure, by now, that they made A LOT up on the fly as they were filming, and honestly, that turns out to be lousy almost every time. At best, it will be a rush-job that sacrifices plot for CGI action scenes. At worst, it could be Alien 3... I think it will look great and, like a lot of these types of movies, will have broad mainstream appeal for kids and grown-ups who don't much care about anything past popcorn entertainment. But I think anyone expecting it to be satisfying on more than an eye-candy level will probably be let down. You can fix a lot of things along the way when you're making a big movie, but doing it without an actual script has, to my knowledge, never been done successfully. Since it's more likely to be a hodge-podge of various, unrelated bits of TMNT lore than anything consistent, it's altogether more likely it won't satisfy the way a committed, straight adaptation of Mirage or the OT would, because at least then the project would have a focus. And by putting all those unrelated bits together, it makes the movie even less of an original concept, further diluting it. I just don't know. I was pleasantly surprised with "Man Of Steel", which I almost did want to dislike, but in the end it was good and gets better on repeat viewings. But that's Superman, and you have to actually set out with "screw it up" as the goal in order to so. There's a million potential ways to screw up TMNT. It's a bit of a corny premise, "selling" it and making it appealing takes a certain amount of care that I'm not sure the film's handlers are capable of. |
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Hope this is worth the wait as we finally see what the new Movie Turtles are going to look like.
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I saw some posts mentioning that we might get something during the Super Bowl. According to Deadline, there won't be a commercial for TMNT during the Super Bowl. Paramount just bought one 30 second spot that they will be using for Transformers 4.
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established franchise vs new film idea, of course they push the more expensive advertising at transformers
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which is interesting cause that is the 4th Transformers movie, and the new TMNT reboot being the 5th movie.
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If you're counting this movie with the other TMNT movies, then you really should count the original 1986 Transformers movie. In which case, it's 5th time around for both franchises.
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On an even more technical level, Turtles Forever was the 5th movie, and this upcoming flick is the 6th.
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I'm counting only films released theatrically, movies that were made just for TV don't count actually.
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Turtles Forever was going to get a theatrical release, a limited one that is, but still....
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What the hell... I was SURE it would premire on the Super Bowl..... ugh
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Super Bowl ads cost a bazillion dollars and are generally only for promoting something guaranteed to make huge money. There's no way the studio was ever going to spend that much money to promote a movie that, by the look of every piece of information that we know about it, is going to be another "Lone Ranger" at best.
Meanwhile, the Transformers franchise has proven you can put robot dogs humping on-screen and it will still make a billion dollars. If you were only going to promote one of your studio's films, you have to pick the one that's actually going to make money. That's just common sense. |
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As for the TMNT movie I cannot wait for the release good/bad as it may be. I have other incarnations to fall back on and this movie will not "rape my childhood", like others have said to that effect. I grew up on the cartoon and movies in the 1990's, then the 2003 series and original comics came to light later. The story of four teenage ninja fighting mutant turtles will always have a special place in my mind. It may have always been a silly concept, but you have got to love these guys and they know how to party it up. So grab a Pizza, kick some foot ninja butt, skateboard the sewers, and sit back down and get ready for another movie theater release of a TMNT presentation. I'm ready? Are you? Last edited by darthwahl56; 12-16-2013 at 03:00 AM. |
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I'm kinda excited for a new take on the turtles! XD I mean I love Shredder being a Japanese ninja, but as long as he's still a crazy foe for the turtles then I'll be content *_* just put some turtles in it and I'll give it a shot~
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What's got me disgruntled is that for me and my wife, a night out to the movies is like almost a $40 investment these days. Like a lot of people, that limits our going out to just a few times a year, and sadly pretty much erases any chance of going to see a movie we aren't already guaranteed to like. It's too much money to justify spending on anything we may be disappointed by.
But some things are must-see just because of what they're based on, TMNT being one of those things. And I *want* it to be good, I definitely want to have a good time when we do go see it. But neither one of us is really in love with what we've seen so far and thus aren't as excited for it as we should be. It would suck if it was like Transformers II, where once it was over it was like "Yeah, should've waited for the DVD on that one." It's weird in that I'm not sure, exactly, what I'd prefer they do with it rather than what they are. I just know I've been underwhelmed by some of what I've seen so far and am distrustful of how secretive they're being in an age where studios with a "sure thing" market it loudly for about a year in advance, making sure the entire world knows this movie exists and will rule you. All they've said so far is "trust us", with a few photos of the lair, the van, and April. Compared to, like, "Man of Steel", which WB was so sure would be a hit that 8 months in advance you had seen pretty much everything except the full movie itself. I can't shake the feeling the studio's only being so secretive with TMNT because they don't think it's going to play well. I'unno. We'll see. |
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William Fichtner even said they made changes to the script while filming.
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