Trailer set for Feb release. - Page 4

*TrickOrTreater* · 12-08-2013, 11:24 PM

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Originally Posted by BabyTurtles

no it's not.... negativity brings in bad feelings/energy which can be harmful in different ways (this can make you hate something that isn't really all that bad)

Yeah I don't buy into quasi-magical thinking.

Welmanshire · 12-09-2013, 12:15 AM

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Originally Posted by TrickOrTreater

Yeah I don't buy into quasi-magical thinking.

How is it a magical way of thinking? There are several scientific studies that have proven that positive thinking is not only good for mental health, but for physical health\longevity too.

http://www.theatlantic.com/health/ar...bility/256223/

But back on topic, I'm looking forward to seeing the trailer. It'll give us a good idea on the tone for the film.

~~Leo656~~ · 12-09-2013, 05:48 AM

I get what some folks are going for, but positive affirmations really do fall somewhere near "self-delusion" in that they really only affect the short-term mindset of the individual. You can't happy-think things that are objectively bad into being good, nor vice-versa. Just sayin'.

In this case, most people have very specific criteria for what they want in a TMNT movie. Most of them, in turn, have radically different wants/expectations based on what TMNT means to them. What I find telling, and indeed troubling, is that a large number of self-identifying "fans" - regardless of which TMNT incarnation they prefer - have already seen enough to be displeased about this movie.

For me, so far, it's back and forth. Honestly, I don't expect it to be very good. Yes, a lot of things turn out far greater than the sum of their parts, and in fact, almost every successful blockbuster movie ever made was earlier predicted to be (and indeed, put together as) a giant disaster, and were only great by complete accident. So no, we won't know for sure until it's finished. But one thing keeps nagging at me more than anything, and that's that I'm *almost* 100% sure there was no actual finished script. I would seriously bet that the movie was put together based off of some Frankenstein construction made of the less-offensive parts of the earlier, rejected script (you know, the one they were 100% going to film as recently as last year until the internet sh*t a brick?), and some wikipedia articles and Google images. They simply had NO time to commission, edit, and re-write an entirely new script in the window they had. I'm pretty sure, by now, that they made A LOT up on the fly as they were filming, and honestly, that turns out to be lousy almost every time. At best, it will be a rush-job that sacrifices plot for CGI action scenes. At worst, it could be Alien 3...

I think it will look great and, like a lot of these types of movies, will have broad mainstream appeal for kids and grown-ups who don't much care about anything past popcorn entertainment. But I think anyone expecting it to be satisfying on more than an eye-candy level will probably be let down. You can fix a lot of things along the way when you're making a big movie, but doing it without an actual script has, to my knowledge, never been done successfully. Since it's more likely to be a hodge-podge of various, unrelated bits of TMNT lore than anything consistent, it's altogether more likely it won't satisfy the way a committed, straight adaptation of Mirage or the OT would, because at least then the project would have a focus. And by putting all those unrelated bits together, it makes the movie even less of an original concept, further diluting it.

I just don't know. I was pleasantly surprised with "Man Of Steel", which I almost did want to dislike, but in the end it was good and gets better on repeat viewings. But that's Superman, and you have to actually set out with "screw it up" as the goal in order to so. There's a million potential ways to screw up TMNT. It's a bit of a corny premise, "selling" it and making it appealing takes a certain amount of care that I'm not sure the film's handlers are capable of.

ryukenden · 12-09-2013, 11:46 AM

Hope this is worth the wait as we finally see what the new Movie Turtles are going to look like.

*NinjaPug* · 12-12-2013, 07:24 PM

I saw some posts mentioning that we might get something during the Super Bowl. According to Deadline, there won't be a commercial for TMNT during the Super Bowl. Paramount just bought one 30 second spot that they will be using for Transformers 4.

http://m.deadline.com/2013/12/super-...ented-numbers/

*TigerClaw* · 12-12-2013, 10:16 PM

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Originally Posted by NinjaPug

I saw some posts mentioning that we might get something during the Super Bowl. According to Deadline, there won't be a commercial for TMNT during the Super Bowl. Paramount just bought one 30 second spot that they will be using for Transformers 4.

http://m.deadline.com/2013/12/super-...ented-numbers/

Well, Goes to show that Transformers is bigger then TMNT, But I really hope we see something for next year, whether it be in January or February.

*The Boston Ninja Turtle* · 12-13-2013, 10:56 AM

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Originally Posted by TigerClaw

Well, Goes to show that Transformers is bigger then TMNT, But I really hope we see something for next year, whether it be in January or February.

are you surprised?

established franchise vs new film idea, of course they push the more expensive advertising at transformers

*TigerClaw* · 12-13-2013, 11:49 AM

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Originally Posted by The Boston Ninja Turtle

are you surprised?

established franchise vs new film idea, of course they push the more expensive advertising at transformers

which is interesting cause that is the 4th Transformers movie, and the new TMNT reboot being the 5th movie.

*Discogod* · 12-13-2013, 12:05 PM

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Originally Posted by TigerClaw

which is interesting cause that is the 4th Transformers movie, and the new TMNT reboot being the 5th movie.

If you're counting this movie with the other TMNT movies, then you really should count the original 1986 Transformers movie. In which case, it's 5th time around for both franchises.

*Powder* · 12-13-2013, 07:19 PM

On an even more technical level, Turtles Forever was the 5th movie, and this upcoming flick is the 6th.

*TigerClaw* · 12-13-2013, 07:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Powder

On an even more technical level, Turtles Forever was the 5th movie, and this upcoming flick is the 6th.

I'm counting only films released theatrically, movies that were made just for TV don't count actually.

John Pannozzi · 12-13-2013, 08:12 PM

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Originally Posted by TigerClaw

I'm counting only films released theatrically, movies that were made just for TV don't count actually.

Turtles Forever was going to get a theatrical release, a limited one that is, but still....

CrazySquirrel · 12-14-2013, 12:41 AM

What the hell... I was SURE it would premire on the Super Bowl..... ugh

~~Leo656~~ · 12-15-2013, 02:00 AM

Super Bowl ads cost a bazillion dollars and are generally only for promoting something guaranteed to make huge money. There's no way the studio was ever going to spend that much money to promote a movie that, by the look of every piece of information that we know about it, is going to be another "Lone Ranger" at best.

Meanwhile, the Transformers franchise has proven you can put robot dogs humping on-screen and it will still make a billion dollars. If you were only going to promote one of your studio's films, you have to pick the one that's actually going to make money. That's just common sense.

TurtleMikey · 12-15-2013, 04:47 PM

edit.

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darthwahl56 · 12-16-2013, 02:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Leo656

Super Bowl ads cost a bazillion dollars and are generally only for promoting something guaranteed to make huge money. There's no way the studio was ever going to spend that much money to promote a movie that, by the look of every piece of information that we know about it, is going to be another "Lone Ranger" at best.

Meanwhile, the Transformers franchise has proven you can put robot dogs humping on-screen and it will still make a billion dollars. If you were only going to promote one of your studio's films, you have to pick the one that's actually going to make money. That's just common sense.

Lone Ranger was still a fun movie. I saw it twice. Of course I also like western themes and just action/adventure in general. Also look at Gijoe Retaliation for a guarantee on the next sure fire thing. It was on the Super bowl ads for two years and it was held back because the studio showed little to no faith in the movie's success in the summer of 2012. It made money in theaters in March of 2013, but it was not promoted with any reassurance that it would be good from Paramount.

As for the TMNT movie I cannot wait for the release good/bad as it may be. I have other incarnations to fall back on and this movie will not "rape my childhood", like others have said to that effect. I grew up on the cartoon and movies in the 1990's, then the 2003 series and original comics came to light later. The story of four teenage ninja fighting mutant turtles will always have a special place in my mind. It may have always been a silly concept, but you have got to love these guys and they know how to party it up.

So grab a Pizza, kick some foot ninja butt, skateboard the sewers, and sit back down and get ready for another movie theater release of a TMNT presentation. I'm ready? Are you?

*BabyTurtles* · 12-16-2013, 03:00 AM

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Originally Posted by darthwahl56

So grab a Pizza, kick some foot ninja butt, skateboard the sewers, and sit back down and get ready for another movie theater release of a TMNT presentation. I'm ready? Are you?

I am~ I'm just chilling till it starts

I'm kinda excited for a new take on the turtles! XD I mean I love Shredder being a Japanese ninja, but as long as he's still a crazy foe for the turtles then I'll be content *_*

just put some turtles in it and I'll give it a shot~

~~Leo656~~ · 12-16-2013, 06:43 AM

What's got me disgruntled is that for me and my wife, a night out to the movies is like almost a $40 investment these days. Like a lot of people, that limits our going out to just a few times a year, and sadly pretty much erases any chance of going to see a movie we aren't already guaranteed to like. It's too much money to justify spending on anything we may be disappointed by.

But some things are must-see just because of what they're based on, TMNT being one of those things. And I *want* it to be good, I definitely want to have a good time when we do go see it. But neither one of us is really in love with what we've seen so far and thus aren't as excited for it as we should be. It would suck if it was like Transformers II, where once it was over it was like "Yeah, should've waited for the DVD on that one."

It's weird in that I'm not sure, exactly, what I'd prefer they do with it rather than what they are. I just know I've been underwhelmed by some of what I've seen so far and am distrustful of how secretive they're being in an age where studios with a "sure thing" market it loudly for about a year in advance, making sure the entire world knows this movie exists and will rule you. All they've said so far is "trust us", with a few photos of the lair, the van, and April. Compared to, like, "Man of Steel", which WB was so sure would be a hit that 8 months in advance you had seen pretty much everything except the full movie itself. I can't shake the feeling the studio's only being so secretive with TMNT because they don't think it's going to play well.

I'unno. We'll see.

thebrownranger · 12-17-2013, 01:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Leo656

But one thing keeps nagging at me more than anything, and that's that I'm *almost* 100% sure there was no actual finished script. I would seriously bet that the movie was put together based off of some Frankenstein construction made of the less-offensive parts of the earlier, rejected script (you know, the one they were 100% going to film as recently as last year until the internet sh*t a brick?), and some wikipedia articles and Google images. They simply had NO time to commission, edit, and re-write an entirely new script in the window they had. I'm pretty sure, by now, that they made A LOT up on the fly as they were filming, and honestly, that turns out to be lousy almost every time. At best, it will be a rush-job that sacrifices plot for CGI action scenes. At worst, it could be Alien 3...

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Originally Posted by Leo656

I just know I've been underwhelmed by some of what I've seen so far and am distrustful of how secretive they're being in an age where studios with a "sure thing" market it loudly for about a year in advance, making sure the entire world knows this movie exists and will rule you. All they've said so far is "trust us", with a few photos of the lair, the van, and April.

I really hope this is not the case.

NYShell · 12-17-2013, 12:51 PM

William Fichtner even said they made changes to the script while filming.

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~~Leo656~~ Banned Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: nWo Country Posts: 27,703	I get what some folks are going for, but positive affirmations really do fall somewhere near "self-delusion" in that they really only affect the short-term mindset of the individual. You can't happy-think things that are objectively bad into being good, nor vice-versa. Just sayin'. In this case, most people have very specific criteria for what they want in a TMNT movie. Most of them, in turn, have radically different wants/expectations based on what TMNT means to them. What I find telling, and indeed troubling, is that a large number of self-identifying "fans" - regardless of which TMNT incarnation they prefer - have already seen enough to be displeased about this movie. For me, so far, it's back and forth. Honestly, I don't expect it to be very good. Yes, a lot of things turn out far greater than the sum of their parts, and in fact, almost every successful blockbuster movie ever made was earlier predicted to be (and indeed, put together as) a giant disaster, and were only great by complete accident. So no, we won't know for sure until it's finished. But one thing keeps nagging at me more than anything, and that's that I'm almost 100% sure there was no actual finished script. I would seriously bet that the movie was put together based off of some Frankenstein construction made of the less-offensive parts of the earlier, rejected script (you know, the one they were 100% going to film as recently as last year until the internet sht a brick?), and some wikipedia articles and Google images. They simply had NO time to commission, edit, and re-write an entirely new script in the window they had. I'm pretty sure, by now, that they made A LOT up on the fly as they were filming, and honestly, that turns out to be lousy almost every time. At best, it will be a rush-job that sacrifices plot for CGI action scenes. At worst, it could be Alien 3... I think it will look* great and, like a lot of these types of movies, will have broad mainstream appeal for kids and grown-ups who don't much care about anything past popcorn entertainment. But I think anyone expecting it to be satisfying on more than an eye-candy level will probably be let down. You can fix a lot of things along the way when you're making a big movie, but doing it without an actual script has, to my knowledge, never been done successfully. Since it's more likely to be a hodge-podge of various, unrelated bits of TMNT lore than anything consistent, it's altogether more likely it won't satisfy the way a committed, straight adaptation of Mirage or the OT would, because at least then the project would have a focus. And by putting all those unrelated bits together, it makes the movie even less of an original concept, further diluting it. I just don't know. I was pleasantly surprised with "Man Of Steel", which I almost did want to dislike, but in the end it was good and gets better on repeat viewings. But that's Superman, and you have to actually set out with "screw it up" as the goal in order to so. There's a million potential ways to screw up TMNT. It's a bit of a corny premise, "selling" it and making it appealing takes a certain amount of care that I'm not sure the film's handlers are capable of.

12-09-2013, 11:46 AM	#64
ryukenden Hench Mutant Join Date: Dec 2009 Posts: 383	Hope this is worth the wait as we finally see what the new Movie Turtles are going to look like.

12-12-2013, 07:24 PM	#65
NinjaPug Foot Elite Join Date: Mar 2012 Posts: 4,390	I saw some posts mentioning that we might get something during the Super Bowl. According to Deadline, there won't be a commercial for TMNT during the Super Bowl. Paramount just bought one 30 second spot that they will be using for Transformers 4. http://m.deadline.com/2013/12/super-...ented-numbers/

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Powder 40 Years of TMNT Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Shell-Ri-La Posts: 26,956	On an even more technical level, Turtles Forever was the 5th movie, and this upcoming flick is the 6th.

12-14-2013, 12:41 AM	#73
CrazySquirrel Foot Soldier Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Massachusetts Posts: 147	What the hell... I was SURE it would premire on the Super Bowl..... ugh

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~~Leo656~~ Banned Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: nWo Country Posts: 27,703	Super Bowl ads cost a bazillion dollars and are generally only for promoting something guaranteed to make huge money. There's no way the studio was ever going to spend that much money to promote a movie that, by the look of every piece of information that we know about it, is going to be another "Lone Ranger" at best. Meanwhile, the Transformers franchise has proven you can put robot dogs humping on-screen and it will still make a billion dollars. If you were only going to promote one of your studio's films, you have to pick the one that's actually going to make money. That's just common sense.

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12-16-2013, 06:43 AM	#78
~~Leo656~~ Banned Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: nWo Country Posts: 27,703	What's got me disgruntled is that for me and my wife, a night out to the movies is like almost a $40 investment these days. Like a lot of people, that limits our going out to just a few times a year, and sadly pretty much erases any chance of going to see a movie we aren't already guaranteed to like. It's too much money to justify spending on anything we may be disappointed by. But some things are must-see just because of what they're based on, TMNT being one of those things. And I want it to be good, I definitely want to have a good time when we do go see it. But neither one of us is really in love with what we've seen so far and thus aren't as excited for it as we should be. It would suck if it was like Transformers II, where once it was over it was like "Yeah, should've waited for the DVD on that one." It's weird in that I'm not sure, exactly, what I'd prefer they do with it rather than what they are. I just know I've been underwhelmed by some of what I've seen so far and am distrustful of how secretive they're being in an age where studios with a "sure thing" market it loudly for about a year in advance, making sure the entire world knows this movie exists and will rule you. All they've said so far is "trust us", with a few photos of the lair, the van, and April. Compared to, like, "Man of Steel", which WB was so sure would be a hit that 8 months in advance you had seen pretty much everything except the full movie itself. I can't shake the feeling the studio's only being so secretive with TMNT because they don't think it's going to play well. I'unno. We'll see.