Anyone else like how this show handles Shredder?

[NinjaMan]

Originally Posted by kolaida

Truth. Crimes of passion. Still, I wonder if that is the only thing that has been fueling him-- I'm sure its his main thing, but it seems like he was already doing some pretty evil stuff before discovering that Yoshi was still alive. I guess I could see how that would fuel someone for years, over a decade-- still, though, guy needs some serious therapy. Get some cbt on that guy, stat! xD

Anytime I think of complicated love affairs, my mind always goes back to several years ago about that whole astronaut affair thing with NASA-- like, how could people that intelligent become so... so crazy. But I guess that's life. I've had a few crazy moments myself (not that bad, though! xD)

Dude that NASA thing, I'm still shaking my head over that one lol. Glad to hear your moments weren't as bad LOL.

[Leofan26]

Originally Posted by Donatello19

That's what you say now, but if he appeared all the time it wouldn't seem as cool/special.

I'm with CyberCubed on this one, I really like him as he's very threatening and intimidating...but he does need some sort of personality outside of "must destroy the turtles and Splinter". Haven't seen Wormquake yet...waiting for it to air on TV, but I'm looking forward to seeing him again in that.

They could do what they did in the 2003 series though, I always thought that series handled him just fine.

[T-U-R-T-L-E POWA!]

I like how they handle him because he honestly seems like a very legitimate threat. He was a legit threat in the 87 show also, as far as that he could hold his own in a fight, but in this show it feels like they wouldn't be afraid to "go there" as far as letting the Turtles get actually hurt by him. He reminds me of the first movie Shredder which is a totally awesome Shredder.

[victory_angel]

I think he's intriguing because how flawed he is. He's essentially responsible for the death of the woman he loves. But he doesn't want to acknowledge his fault in the deed, so he blames Hamato Yoshi for her death because if he didn't 'poison' her mind he (the Shredder) would have gotten Teng Shen and everyone would have lived happily ever after.

This Shredder reminds me of a character from Gargoyles named Demona. Demona was essentially responsible for the death of her entire clan.

However when she is confronted with the results of what she had caused she wants vengeance on all humanity for the death of clan. She made a deal with the captain of the guards who made a deal with the Vikings. The vikings could sack Castle Wyvern if the gargoyles were left alone. However the leader of the vikings smashes the Gargoyles as they sleep so when Damona wakes that night it is to find her clan destroyed.

Demona: I will have vengeance for the betrayal of my clan, vengeance for my pain.
Seline: But who betrayed your clan?
Luna: And who caused this pain?
Demona: The Vikings destroyed my clan.
Seline: Who betrayed the castle to the Vikings?
Demona: The Hunters hunted us down.
Phoebe: Who created the Hunter?
Demona: Canmore destroyed the last of us.
Selene: Who betrayed MacBeth to Canmore?
Goliath: Your thirst for vengeance has only created more sorrow.

So to Oroku Saki since he could not accept that Teng Shen loved Hamato Yoshi and not him. So he would harass Hamato Yoshi repeatedly accusing him of stealing the woman he felt rightfully belonged to him and trying to convince Teng Shen she had made a mistake in not choosing him. During their final battle, Oroku Saki in inadvertently causes Teng Shen's death so in as a means of punishing his former friend he abducts Miwa and gives her the name of Oroku Karai and trains her to be a weapon all for the sake of avenging the death of the woman he loves.