Anyone else like how this show handles Shredder?

*NinjaMan* · 03-03-2014, 07:44 PM

This show handles Shredder the same way Superman the Animated series handled Darkseid. They used him sparingly but when he showed up, stuff got real. It makes Shredder such a credible/scary threat without having him get beat every episode like the 87 series where he really wasn't a threat.

Gabriel GP · 03-03-2014, 07:57 PM

Yes and no. On the begining of the show I was becoming a huge fan of nick's shredder. But when I saw Shredder being defeated by Splinter, and becoming so incompetent in taking down the turtles, it kinda turn me off.

*CyberCubed* · 03-03-2014, 08:20 PM

I like the way he's used, but he does need a personality boost. Outside of being intimidating he really lacks of a well-defined personality compared to previous Shredder's.

*BabyTurtles* · 03-03-2014, 08:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Gabriel GP

Yes and no. On the begining of the show I was becoming a huge fan of nick's shredder. But when I saw Shredder being defeated by Splinter, and becoming so incompetent in taking down the turtles, it kinda turn me off.

you should blame his henchmen XD

Shredder could take out all the turtles if they were in a room with no escape.

bridgegrn · 03-03-2014, 08:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Gabriel GP

Yes and no. On the begining of the show I was becoming a huge fan of nick's shredder. But when I saw Shredder being defeated by Splinter, and becoming so incompetent in taking down the turtles, it kinda turn me off.

Splinter won at the end but that fight was even up until that point. Splinter definitely wasn't dominating. And even at the end Shredder got the last hit in, so to speak, by revealing who Karai was and how he screwed Splinter over. And even then he was smart enough to know that he underestimated the turtles and went out to find reinforcements. He's in no way incompetent.

Leofan26 · 03-03-2014, 09:22 PM

I'd like him more if he appeared more

*Donatello19* · 03-03-2014, 09:37 PM

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I'd like him more if he appeared more

That's what you say now, but if he appeared all the time it wouldn't seem as cool/special.

I'm with CyberCubed on this one, I really like him as he's very threatening and intimidating...but he does need some sort of personality outside of "must destroy the turtles and Splinter". Haven't seen Wormquake yet...waiting for it to air on TV, but I'm looking forward to seeing him again in that.

*Shark_Blade* · 03-03-2014, 09:51 PM

Yes, better than Utrom Shredder (well anything's better than that) tbh.

I like that there's shrouds of mystery around him, almost mystical and pretty much in control over everything.

*NinjaMan* · 03-03-2014, 09:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Shark_Blade

Yes, better than Utrom Shredder (well anything's better than that) tbh.

I like that there's shrouds of mystery around him, almost mystical and pretty much in control over everything.

OH I completely agree with that. Love the rivalry he has with Splinter. Perhaps the best rivalry of all the versions.

Ninjawolf · 03-04-2014, 12:32 AM

I think this Shredder is by far the most evil... him using Karai to get back at Splinter is just foul plus he treats her like crap... at leas Utrom Shredder did care about Karai...

Asha · 03-04-2014, 05:16 AM

So far he been despicable. I like to believe his relationship with Karai is other than him using her for revenge. She is also the daughter of the woman he loved.

*LeotheLateBloomer* · 03-04-2014, 08:09 AM

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I'm with CyberCubed on this one, I really like him as he's very threatening and intimidating...but he does need some sort of personality outside of "must destroy the turtles and Splinter". Haven't seen Wormquake yet...waiting for it to air on TV, but I'm looking forward to seeing him again in that.

This is pretty much my view of him.

*blindturtle02* · 03-04-2014, 08:59 AM

Love him in this series. Totally agree with the Darkseid comparison. You know something big is going to happen when he appears. He sort of reminds me of the Beast Wars incarnation of Megatron as well as they're both schemers and manipulators. Shredder using Karai to get back at Splinter has a Mask of Zoro feel to me as well. I wasn't sure what my fiancé was talking about when she made that comparison so I had to watch that flick recently. Definitely something we haven't seen in the animated universes and I gotta say I'm loving it. Glad Shredder doesn't fight in every episode. I always get very excited whenever he decides to get his hands dirty. And Kevin Michael Richardson certainly steals the show whenever he's in an episode. Ironically, he also voiced Darkseid in the old Superman: Shadow of Apokolips videogame. I think it was the only time he portrayed the character.

*ObiWanFan4life* · 03-04-2014, 09:18 AM

I agree with D19 and Cubed. He's a menacing and capable fighter, but he's also a bland, underdeveloped villain, and his personality is non existent. He has little motivation aside from kill the turtles/splinter. I seriously hope they fix this by the end of the season though.

I've noticed the similarities with the Mask of Zorro and I agree, but the villain in that Movie actually had depth and was aware of the terrible things he did.

~~TurFlytle~~ · 03-04-2014, 03:42 PM

Shredder's hobby is just "Destroy Splinter and the turtles." He just can't continue his life over killing his old friend in a relationship gone bad.

I think he needs a real job and a real life. He's just stalking Splinter.

~~TurFlytle~~ · 03-04-2014, 03:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Leofan26

I'd like him more if he appeared more

Well... your wish is going to be granted...

*Candy Kappa* · 03-04-2014, 03:48 PM

It would be nice if Shredder grew a character, gotten some more traits then the urge to kill Splinter and the Turtles.

That Karai said that Shredder taught her the values of honor and that he basically was a single dad while running a crime empire, I hope he will mellow later on, maybe even stop hounding Splinter. Perhaps he gets some perspective when Karai leaves him after she unravels the truth. I'd love to see him reflect on the time as a dad raising the child of the one woman he loved that he was responsible of her death. I'm sure he blames Splinter, but deep inside there gotta be some doubt.

kolaida · 03-04-2014, 06:03 PM

Yeah, I love it, but like others have stated, I'd like some more backstory (though I guess we have quite a bit through Splinter, but still---) SOMEthing that inspired him to be so..... crazy evil (but I love it) and I really like how this Shredder means business and isn't a joke, he is one scary dude.

*NinjaMan* · 03-04-2014, 06:09 PM

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Originally Posted by kolaida

Yeah, I love it, but like others have stated, I'd like some more backstory (though I guess we have quite a bit through Splinter, but still---) SOMEthing that inspired him to be so..... crazy evil (but I love it) and I really like how this Shredder means business and isn't a joke, he is one scary dude.

You'd be surprised how crazy people get when there is a love interest involved. There are so many cases out there about people who become so jealous when the person they are interested in chooses someone else.

kolaida · 03-04-2014, 06:20 PM

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You'd be surprised how crazy people get when there is a love interest involved. There are so many cases out there about people who become so jealous when the person they are interested in chooses someone else.

Truth. Crimes of passion. Still, I wonder if that is the only thing that has been fueling him-- I'm sure its his main thing, but it seems like he was already doing some pretty evil stuff before discovering that Yoshi was still alive. I guess I could see how that would fuel someone for years, over a decade-- still, though, guy needs some serious therapy. Get some cbt on that guy, stat! xD

Anytime I think of complicated love affairs, my mind always goes back to several years ago about that whole astronaut affair thing with NASA-- like, how could people that intelligent become so... so crazy. But I guess that's life. I've had a few crazy moments myself (not that bad, though! xD)

03-03-2014, 07:44 PM	#1
NinjaMan Mad Scientist Join Date: Sep 2012 Posts: 1,579	Anyone else like how this show handles Shredder? This show handles Shredder the same way Superman the Animated series handled Darkseid. They used him sparingly but when he showed up, stuff got real. It makes Shredder such a credible/scary threat without having him get beat every episode like the 87 series where he really wasn't a threat.

03-03-2014, 07:57 PM	#2
Gabriel GP Foot Soldier Join Date: Jan 2014 Location: Brazil Posts: 176	Yes and no. On the begining of the show I was becoming a huge fan of nick's shredder. But when I saw Shredder being defeated by Splinter, and becoming so incompetent in taking down the turtles, it kinda turn me off. __________________

03-04-2014, 08:59 AM	#13
blindturtle02 Foot Elite Join Date: Sep 2013 Location: Tx Posts: 2,627	Love him in this series. Totally agree with the Darkseid comparison. You know something big is going to happen when he appears. He sort of reminds me of the Beast Wars incarnation of Megatron as well as they're both schemers and manipulators. Shredder using Karai to get back at Splinter has a Mask of Zoro feel to me as well. I wasn't sure what my fiancé was talking about when she made that comparison so I had to watch that flick recently. Definitely something we haven't seen in the animated universes and I gotta say I'm loving it. Glad Shredder doesn't fight in every episode. I always get very excited whenever he decides to get his hands dirty. And Kevin Michael Richardson certainly steals the show whenever he's in an episode. Ironically, he also voiced Darkseid in the old Superman: Shadow of Apokolips videogame. I think it was the only time he portrayed the character. __________________ Please don't remove my nice hat and wack me in the butt with it.

03-04-2014, 09:18 AM	#14
ObiWanFan4life Mad Scientist Join Date: Mar 2013 Location: Georgia Posts: 1,724	Ditto I agree with D19 and Cubed. He's a menacing and capable fighter, but he's also a bland, underdeveloped villain, and his personality is non existent. He has little motivation aside from kill the turtles/splinter. I seriously hope they fix this by the end of the season though. I've noticed the similarities with the Mask of Zorro and I agree, but the villain in that Movie actually had depth and was aware of the terrible things he did. __________________ "The force will be with you, always" - Obi-Wan Kenobi Last edited by ObiWanFan4life; 03-04-2014 at 09:28 AM.

03-04-2014, 03:48 PM	#17
Candy Kappa The Agenda of Existing Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Vikingland Posts: 14,596	It would be nice if Shredder grew a character, gotten some more traits then the urge to kill Splinter and the Turtles. That Karai said that Shredder taught her the values of honor and that he basically was a single dad while running a crime empire, I hope he will mellow later on, maybe even stop hounding Splinter. Perhaps he gets some perspective when Karai leaves him after she unravels the truth. I'd love to see him reflect on the time as a dad raising the child of the one woman he loved that he was responsible of her death. I'm sure he blames Splinter, but deep inside there gotta be some doubt. __________________ devianArt Instagram Youtube Tumblr Art Blog Patreon

03-03-2014, 08:20 PM	#3
CyberCubed Overlord Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 43,880	I like the way he's used, but he does need a personality boost. Outside of being intimidating he really lacks of a well-defined personality compared to previous Shredder's.

03-03-2014, 09:22 PM	#6
Leofan26 Mad Scientist Join Date: Apr 2013 Posts: 1,306	I'd like him more if he appeared more

03-03-2014, 09:51 PM	#8
Shark_Blade Emperor Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 7,909	Yes, better than Utrom Shredder (well anything's better than that) tbh. I like that there's shrouds of mystery around him, almost mystical and pretty much in control over everything.

03-04-2014, 12:32 AM	#10
Ninjawolf Thug Join Date: Nov 2012 Posts: 96	I think this Shredder is by far the most evil... him using Karai to get back at Splinter is just foul plus he treats her like crap... at leas Utrom Shredder did care about Karai...

03-04-2014, 05:16 AM	#11
Asha Random Punk Join Date: Dec 2013 Location: Canada Posts: 36	So far he been despicable. I like to believe his relationship with Karai is other than him using her for revenge. She is also the daughter of the woman he loved.

03-04-2014, 03:42 PM	#15
~~TurFlytle~~ Banned Join Date: Feb 2014 Posts: 534	Shredder's hobby is just "Destroy Splinter and the turtles." He just can't continue his life over killing his old friend in a relationship gone bad. I think he needs a real job and a real life. He's just stalking Splinter.

03-04-2014, 06:03 PM	#18
kolaida Foot Soldier Join Date: Sep 2010 Posts: 240	Yeah, I love it, but like others have stated, I'd like some more backstory (though I guess we have quite a bit through Splinter, but still---) SOMEthing that inspired him to be so..... crazy evil (but I love it) and I really like how this Shredder means business and isn't a joke, he is one scary dude.