Is the show really doing that bad?

[billbot85]

This show isn't doing bad at all. It's well advertised on Nick, has merchandise everywhere, and is signed on for a 3rd season. The show helped bring Turtle Mania back for God's sake. No way in hell that this show is doing poorly.

[MrTMNT2012]

One of the more recent TMNT Episodes beat Spongebob F##king Squarepants in Ratings for christs sake. Why does this thread exist?

[The Fifth Turtle]

Originally Posted by MrTMNT2012

One of the more recent TMNT Episodes beat Spongebob F##king Squarepants in Ratings for christs sake. Why does this thread exist?

Amen. Also that's pretty aweSome they beat SB.

[electric_sheep]

People will defend any crap, i have seen people get in passionate debates over Catwoman 2004 for god's sake, so there's no point in explaining why this show isn't very good. Let's just say that it isn't aimed for the fans of TMNT and it's aimed for 5 year old kids, even 1987 cartoon was more adult than this.

[Ramboraph4life aka Matt]

Originally Posted by electric_sheep

even 1987 cartoon was more adult than this.

Granted, I still don't 'love it to death' like some people and I still have problems with the new one, but the new Nick show has grown on me (have to be honest). Still, my preferred cartoon is the 2003 one hands down.

But, the 1987 cartoon being more adult?

I would have to disagree with you on that and don't really understand that comment.

The episode with Slash alone (and how Beat Up Don & Mikey looked after that fight) was a bit more adult than any episode of the old cartoon that I remember...

[electric_sheep]

Originally Posted by Ramboraph4life aka Matt

Granted, I still don't 'love it to death' like some people and I still have problems with the new one, but the new Nick show has grown on me (have to be honest). Still, my preferred cartoon is the 2003 one hands down.

But, the 1987 cartoon being more adult?

I would have to disagree with you on that and don't really understand that comment.

The episode with Slash alone (and how Beat Up Don & Mikey looked after that fight) was a bit more adult than any episode of the old cartoon that I remember...

because it's easier to do action nowadays, violence doesn't mean adult...
New show isn't a show, it's a cartoon for babies, every episode is self contained, they learn something every episode and by the next episode they completely forget that. How many episode was there about Raph dealing with his anger? and by the next episode he forgot everything. 87 show had a lot more stories that go across several episodes and it had a lot more in jokes...
plus i ****ing hate cgi cartoons, it's the plague on the animation world, it kills the art of hand drawn animation, it's boring, bland, sterile and it limits the world of the show....

[Ramboraph4life aka Matt]

Originally Posted by electric_sheep

How many episode was there about Raph dealing with his anger? and by the next episode he forgot everything.

Well, hmm. Actually when I mentioned in my previous post 'some problems I have with it', that is one of them. To be honest I've been pretty fine with Mikey, Don, and Leo. I just have problems with how they deal with Raph. Either by being scared by a bug so much that he Leaves His Family in the Heat of Battle! What? Seriously? Yes, I get it, he's afraid of cockroaches. But there is a difference between that and 'leaving your loved ones in the heat of battle to cower away like a chickensh**.' Just my opinion though (that and I'm not a big fan of Sean Astin's voice. Just still not 100% sold on him as the voice of Raph).

And also, like you said. They've done that same thing with his temper stuff quite a few times (and since Raph is my favorite, I would like that he wouldn't 'forget everything and seem like he's at Square 1' each time that happens.)

Especially after almost losing Leo in the season finale and him being extremely sad about it (until Leo was found to be 'alive'), and then wasn't it recently Raph 'hurts Leo in practice' (I believe the first Casey Jones one but I could be wrong)? But yeah, I think they can do better with that one (and before anyone goes 'well they didn't do that in the previous cartoons'...then Do it in This one.)

At the same time, I don't remember the Turtles in the 1987 show doing any better in the "learning one thing and then forgetting it the next time." Weren't they pretty much the same from beginning to end? (aside from maybe some stuff in the Red Sky stuff.) I mean, wasn't Mikey the 'surfer turtle' from beginning to end of that show, and so on?

[electric_sheep]

i know i am going on a rant here but i have to explain this the thing about hand drawn animation is that every time there's something different it doesn't let your brain get used to it, when you are watching cgi you are watching same prerendered things over and over again, there's no variety, it get's stale and boring. You might have not noticed it but your brain did

[electric_sheep]

Originally Posted by Ramboraph4life aka Matt

Well, hmm. Actually when I mentioned in my previous post 'some problems I have with it', that is one of them. To be honest I've been pretty fine with Mikey, Don, and Leo. I just have problems with how they deal with Raph. Either by being scared by a bug so much that he Leaves His Family in the Heat of Battle! What? Seriously? Yes, I get it, he's afraid of cockroaches. But there is a difference between that and 'leaving your loved ones in the heat of battle to cower away like a chickensh**.' Just my opinion though (that and I'm not a big fan of Sean Astin's voice. Just still not 100% sold on him as the voice of Raph).

And also, like you said. They've done that same thing with his temper stuff quite a few times (and since Raph is my favorite, I would like that he wouldn't 'forget everything and seem like he's at Square 1' each time that happens.)

Especially after almost losing Leo in the season finale and him being extremely sad about it (until Leo was found to be 'alive'), and then wasn't it recently Raph 'hurts Leo in practice' (I believe the first Casey Jones one but I could be wrong)? But yeah, I think they can do better with that one (and before anyone goes 'well they didn't do that in the previous cartoons'...then Do it in This one.)

At the same time, I don't remember the Turtles in the 1987 show doing any better in the "learning one thing and then forgetting it the next time." Weren't they pretty much the same from beginning to end? (aside from maybe some stuff in the Red Sky stuff.) I mean, wasn't Mikey the 'surfer turtle' from beginning to end of that show, and so on?

Yeah, that's because they didn't attempt any character stuff, maybe occasionally but even then it was just for the sake of the plot, most of the episodes was oh no shredder has a crazy plan again let's go kick his ass again and cram as much crappy puns in there, that was the charm of it, it didn't try to be any more than that...

[electric_sheep]

so it becomes which is more adult, a show that doesn't attempt any character stuff or a show that does the character stuff in the most kiddie way possible...

[electric_sheep]

crap i hate when i get all intellectual, i get smug, here have this, i got hooked on it...

[Ramboraph4life aka Matt]

Originally Posted by electric_sheep

crap i hate when i get all intellectual, i get smug, here have this, i got hooked on it...

Actually I was more partial to this scene from that film.



And on a side note, I wish Peter Jackson would get back to doing movies like this, Dead Alive, or The Frighteners.

[electric_sheep]

Originally Posted by Ramboraph4life aka Matt

Actually I was more partial to this scene from that film.


And on a side note, I wish Peter Jackson would get back to doing movies like this, Dead Alive, or The Frighteners.

That will never happen unfortunately, same with Sam Raimi, he will never make another evil dead, also you need to see Bad Taste, it's Peter Jackson first movie, easily the best of his early work, it's brilliant!

[BubblyShell22]

ES, you may not like how the Turtles forget lessons, but remember that they're teenagers and teenagers don't always learn from their mistakes. Some things are hard to control such as one's temper. I have a temper myself and sometimes it's hard to control it, though I have been working on it. That's how you learn. I understand you don't like this show but it's not for babies as you say. There's plenty of stuff for adults including homages to what came before and even some adult jokes such as some of Xever's comments and the sea monster having implied sex with the Shell Sub.

[Ramboraph4life aka Matt]

Originally Posted by electric_sheep

That will never happen unfortunately, same with Sam Raimi, he will never make another evil dead, also you need to see Bad Taste, it's Peter Jackson first movie, easily the best of his early work, it's brilliant!

I have seen that one (have all of those on DVD) and I enjoyed that one too.

[plastroncafe]

Originally Posted by Mr.Green

Why is it that Superhero cartoons are doing so bad? Look at Beware the Batman, Young Justice, Wolverine and the X-Men, Avengers EMH, Green Lantern and so on.

I think the Nick cartoon is doing great compared to all the other Superhero shows but Im afraid that the movie will kill the cartoon (and the IDW comic) if it bombs (just like it killed Green Lantern).

Those shows all ended when the Studio heads pulled them for having too large of a female audience.

Originally Posted by electric_sheep

Let's just say that it isn't aimed for the fans of TMNT and it's aimed for 5 year old kids, even 1987 cartoon was more adult than this.

Please stop talking for Fans of the TMNT, because you sure as heck do NOT represent all of us.
The new cartoon is clever, well constructed, and has plenty of adult humor.

[Warhorse]

Originally Posted by plastroncafe

Those shows all ended when the Studio heads pulled them for having too large of a female audience.

Please tell me you are joking, because I swear I read somewhere that half of the TMNT on nick fanbase is female. And it's sad that the studio heads are still stuck in the 1930's.

Please stop talking for Fans of the TMNT, because you sure as heck do NOT represent all of us.
The new cartoon is clever, well constructed, and has plenty of adult humor.

So true on the adult humor, the innuendos in this are everywhere (the last being Donnie's comment on the yellow jumpsuit, like he was really looking at the yellow jumpsuit, more like the headlights featured on it)

[electric_sheep]

one more thing about this cartoon, most of the Female fans are bat **** retarded, Who wants to see Ninja Turtles ****ing? that's sick.
i watched a lot of episodes, nothing for adults there, it's kiddie as **** you are just fooling yourself...

[Ramboraph4life aka Matt]

Originally Posted by electric_sheep

one more thing about this cartoon, most of the Female fans are bat **** retarded, Who wants to see Ninja Turtles ****ing? that's sick.

That's strange. I have seen a lot of female fans on here, and I've never heard them say that they wanna fu** a Ninja Turtle.

And even if so, I wouldn't care. And hell, I'll do one better. I wanna bang Lola Bunny from Space Jam (if she, you know, existed). So there ya go

[JTH]

Originally Posted by electric_sheep

one more thing about this cartoon, most of the Female fans are bat **** retarded, Who wants to see Ninja Turtles ****ing? that's sick.
i watched a lot of episodes, nothing for adults there, it's kiddie as **** you are just fooling yourself...

If by you watch a lot of episodes, you watch hardly any, then yeah. You watch a lot of episodes...

Nothing for adults here, because kids will obviously know what happens when you're tripping on mushrooms right?