Is the show really doing that bad? - Page 2

*DrSpengler* · 03-05-2014, 10:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Shark_Blade

*all dat SpongeBob*

When it comes to getting animation ratings, I typically go with Nick and More. They cover all the major networks that air animation (CN, Nick, Disney, Hub).

And they adjust for the "SpongeBob factor". As you can see from your rankings, decade-old SpongeBob reruns STILL annihilate the competition, even brand new premier episodes of popular shows.

If you don't adjust for the "SpongeBob factor" it makes every other animated program on television look like its failing, when the reality is it's doing just fine.

SpongeBob is... a freakin' juggernaut. I can't explain it. It just is. You cannot kill SpongeBob. He is invincible. He is Eternal.

Adjusted for SpongeBob, TMNT is doing just fine.

*CyberCubed* · 03-05-2014, 11:55 AM

TMNT averages 2.6 million viewers an episode, it's doing fine.

I love how the doomsday people are crawling out from the woodwork. Some of you have no clue how TV is produced. The IP is owned by Nick and they paid $60 million for the franchise, probably close to $100 million now after you factor in the production of the show and all the CG model work they had to do.

Ninjawolf · 03-05-2014, 12:05 PM

Like Cyber said fuze Show is doing great in ratings TMNT, LoK and Spongebob(who I hate) are Nick's biggest shows right now I think... plus TMNT has been selling toys and making money like crazy. By all accounts it's a runaway success.

Konchadunga · 03-05-2014, 12:26 PM

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Originally Posted by MaximeLoonatic

Is this a joke? How can Spongebob be so popular?!

BTW, I think the show will eventually get better, it's a tradition that the tmnt shows gets more than ten seasons.

It's hip to be square.

*JTH* · 03-05-2014, 02:02 PM

How much did the franchise make last year?

450 million?

Yeah, ratings are next to irrelevant if the kids are buying the toys in mass quantities.

*Donatello19* · 03-05-2014, 02:04 PM

It's doing bad? Pretty sure it's extremely popular, even more so than the 4kids series already, especially with the kids.

*CyberCubed* · 03-05-2014, 02:16 PM

This thread needs to be locked. The show is doing phenomenally well.

*Xav* · 03-05-2014, 03:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Shark_Blade

Of course I hope it'll go further than that, maybe even going more than 2k3's 6 seasons and OT's 10 seasons.

2K3 had 7 seasons.

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Originally Posted by MaximeLoonatic

BTW, I think the show will eventually get better, it's a tradition that the tmnt shows gets more than ten seasons.

Um, no it's not. There has never been a TMNT series with more than ten seasons.

*CyberCubed* · 03-05-2014, 04:26 PM

Each cartoon made at least 150 episodes. I expect this show to hit at least 150 episodes as well.

Of course I'd love to see the cartoon reach the 200 episode milestone if possible.

*BubblyShell22* · 03-05-2014, 04:34 PM

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Originally Posted by CyberCubed

This thread needs to be locked. The show is doing phenomenally well.

What is it with you and locking threads? Geez, stop it already.

To the OP, I think you should post a source as to where you heard this. Frankly, I don't believe it at all as I think the show is fine. There's Turtles merchandise everywhere. Hell, Mom and I were in Walmart last week and we saw TMNT Easter baskets.

*Warhorse* · 03-05-2014, 11:54 PM

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Originally Posted by T-U-R-T-L-E POWA!

The Thundercats reboot was a really awesome show. The toys, however, did not sell well so the show got he ax. These toys are selling like hotcakes and as long as that's the case I think this show will stick around. I would be devastated if this show were to go the way of the dinosaur. There is a thread for ratings though if you want to know exactly how the show is doing. Where did you see an article saying that just out of curiosity?

Not to mention the ratings are a bunch of BS! If they are going by nielsen ratings, then please, all TMNT fans here raise your hand if you are a member of the nielsen ratings system (sad fact, there are only 5k to 25k households that are members, and these are the people who get to dictated what the entire freaking country watches. It's a sad, broken and very outdated system.)

kolaida · 03-07-2014, 08:06 PM

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Originally Posted by BubblyShell22

What is it with you and locking threads? Geez, stop it already.

To the OP, I think you should post a source as to where you heard this. Frankly, I don't believe it at all as I think the show is fine. There's Turtles merchandise everywhere. Hell, Mom and I were in Walmart last week and we saw TMNT Easter baskets.

Turtle Easter baskets?! xDD ROFL!!! xD

*BubblyShell22* · 03-08-2014, 08:33 AM

Yep. I saw two different versions. One was shaped like the Turtles' heads so they had one of each, and another one was just a basket with all four Turtles on it. Honesty, I think that's pretty cool.

*Metalwolf* · 03-08-2014, 08:55 AM

I think I saw those, on the Kmart site, when I was looking up some other figures. Those types of things aren't really my taste though, but I think other people might like them.

~~TurFlytle~~ · 03-08-2014, 12:29 PM

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Originally Posted by CyberCubed

This thread needs to be locked. The show is doing phenomenally well.

Does every thread about someone's opinion of the show have to be locked?! It's a good thing you're not a admin.

*pannoni1* · 03-10-2014, 08:34 PM

The one thing that will kill this show is if the Paramount/Dunes movie bombs to the point that all the negativity overwhelms the public and suddenly sees anything TMNT like Pogs in 1997 or Mighty Beanz in 2006- outmoded. But unless that happens, this show is doing at the very least maintaining its popularity, and as long as it is profitable via merchandise, there isn't any reason to end the series if there are still some good story ideas. IMO just like the OT there are tentpole classic episodes, mutants of the week, and many in between. It hasn't been super popular because the world is huge in terms of franchises outthere, from Marvel to Star Wars to Transformers to Angry Birds to Avatar to Kung Fu Panda, sort of an "anything goes" culture right now with regards to what sells that sort of establishes an "in club" in which TMNT is part of. The show just needs to be shown more in reruns now that we're about to crack the 40-episode mark which is enough to show daily Mon-Fri for almost two months. By no means has this show jumped the shark/boned the fish, the key plots established are still building towards something dramatic later this season. Speaking of the movie, once promotion starts getting going next month it will provide a chance for the general public to reassess themselves with the franchise, and that will include checking out the new Nick series.

*JTH* · 03-10-2014, 08:45 PM

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Originally Posted by pannoni1

The one thing that will kill this show is if the Paramount/Dunes movie bombs to the point that all the negativity overwhelms the public and suddenly sees anything TMNT like Pogs in 1997 or Mighty Beanz in 2006- outmoded. But unless that happens, this show is doing at the very least maintaining its popularity, and as long as it is profitable via merchandise, there isn't any reason to end the series if there are still some good story ideas. IMO just like the OT there are tentpole classic episodes, mutants of the week, and many in between. It hasn't been super popular because the world is huge in terms of franchises outthere, from Marvel to Star Wars to Transformers to Angry Birds to Avatar to Kung Fu Panda, sort of an "anything goes" culture right now with regards to what sells that sort of establishes an "in club" in which TMNT is part of. The show just needs to be shown more in reruns now that we're about to crack the 40-episode mark which is enough to show daily Mon-Fri for almost two months. By no means has this show jumped the shark/boned the fish, the key plots established are still building towards something dramatic later this season. Speaking of the movie, once promotion starts getting going next month it will provide a chance for the general public to reassess themselves with the franchise, and that will include checking out the new Nick series.

I hope that people would be smart enough if the movie bombs to point the finger at Michael Bay, as he would deserve.

I don't associate any of the Transformers movies with the Transformers franchise.

I see it as a deformed version of a show I loved coming from a deformed mind.

AnarkyLantern · 03-11-2014, 06:29 AM

Nothing related to this show looks like it's in trouble. It is airing consistently, with repeats. It is renewed past the season currently airing. The merchandise is doing well and even sells out. Let's compare that to Beware the Batman. Eleven episodes aired before it was taken off the schedule and it has yet to return. Two more episodes were released as part of a DVD release, leaving half the season yet to be released. It isn't on the network's 2014-15 list of returning shows. And it had only one action figure released out of three that were announced or shown, along a tiein comic that is ending this month with a 6 issue run. THAT is what "doing bad" looks like.

*BubblyShell22* · 03-11-2014, 08:37 AM

I'm also afraid of how the movie will affect the show. I know that many don't consider the movie to be associated with Nick, but I'm afraid some will think along those lines and maybe refuse to watch the show. Only time will tell though. Give me the Nick show and designs over the movie any day from what I've seen and heard.

Mr.Green · 03-11-2014, 09:12 AM

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Originally Posted by AnarkyLantern

Nothing related to this show looks like it's in trouble. It is airing consistently, with repeats. It is renewed past the season currently airing. The merchandise is doing well and even sells out. Let's compare that to Beware the Batman. Eleven episodes aired before it was taken off the schedule and it has yet to return. Two more episodes were released as part of a DVD release, leaving half the season yet to be released. It isn't on the network's 2014-15 list of returning shows. And it had only one action figure released out of three that were announced or shown, along a tiein comic that is ending this month with a 6 issue run. THAT is what "doing bad" looks like.

Why is it that Superhero cartoons are doing so bad? Look at Beware the Batman, Young Justice, Wolverine and the X-Men, Avengers EMH, Green Lantern and so on.

I think the Nick cartoon is doing great compared to all the other Superhero shows but Im afraid that the movie will kill the cartoon (and the IDW comic) if it bombs (just like it killed Green Lantern).

03-08-2014, 08:33 AM	#33
BubblyShell22 Leo-holic Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Indiana Posts: 16,912	Yep. I saw two different versions. One was shaped like the Turtles' heads so they had one of each, and another one was just a basket with all four Turtles on it. Honesty, I think that's pretty cool. __________________ "A warrior who never fails, never learns."-The Ancient One. "Embrace your inner a**holiness."-Mr. Anderson.

03-10-2014, 08:34 PM	#36
pannoni1 Foot Elite Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: USA Posts: 3,447	The one thing that will kill this show is if the Paramount/Dunes movie bombs to the point that all the negativity overwhelms the public and suddenly sees anything TMNT like Pogs in 1997 or Mighty Beanz in 2006- outmoded. But unless that happens, this show is doing at the very least maintaining its popularity, and as long as it is profitable via merchandise, there isn't any reason to end the series if there are still some good story ideas. IMO just like the OT there are tentpole classic episodes, mutants of the week, and many in between. It hasn't been super popular because the world is huge in terms of franchises outthere, from Marvel to Star Wars to Transformers to Angry Birds to Avatar to Kung Fu Panda, sort of an "anything goes" culture right now with regards to what sells that sort of establishes an "in club" in which TMNT is part of. The show just needs to be shown more in reruns now that we're about to crack the 40-episode mark which is enough to show daily Mon-Fri for almost two months. By no means has this show jumped the shark/boned the fish, the key plots established are still building towards something dramatic later this season. Speaking of the movie, once promotion starts getting going next month it will provide a chance for the general public to reassess themselves with the franchise, and that will include checking out the new Nick series. __________________ http://forums.thetechnodrome.com/sho...d.php?t=37065- MY WANT LIST TMNT FAN CLUB LINK: http://sot.ag/gCjK/ 30 years of Turtle Power!

03-11-2014, 06:29 AM	#38
AnarkyLantern Foot Soldier Join Date: Nov 2012 Posts: 154	Nothing related to this show looks like it's in trouble. It is airing consistently, with repeats. It is renewed past the season currently airing. The merchandise is doing well and even sells out. Let's compare that to Beware the Batman. Eleven episodes aired before it was taken off the schedule and it has yet to return. Two more episodes were released as part of a DVD release, leaving half the season yet to be released. It isn't on the network's 2014-15 list of returning shows. And it had only one action figure released out of three that were announced or shown, along a tiein comic that is ending this month with a 6 issue run. THAT is what "doing bad" looks like. __________________ Quickie video of Fishface's trip to Disneyland: www.youtube.com/watch?v=u5bGIhuHaps

03-11-2014, 08:37 AM	#39
BubblyShell22 Leo-holic Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Indiana Posts: 16,912	I'm also afraid of how the movie will affect the show. I know that many don't consider the movie to be associated with Nick, but I'm afraid some will think along those lines and maybe refuse to watch the show. Only time will tell though. Give me the Nick show and designs over the movie any day from what I've seen and heard. __________________ "A warrior who never fails, never learns."-The Ancient One. "Embrace your inner a**holiness."-Mr. Anderson.

03-05-2014, 11:55 AM	#22
CyberCubed Overlord Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 43,880	TMNT averages 2.6 million viewers an episode, it's doing fine. I love how the doomsday people are crawling out from the woodwork. Some of you have no clue how TV is produced. The IP is owned by Nick and they paid $60 million for the franchise, probably close to $100 million now after you factor in the production of the show and all the CG model work they had to do.

03-05-2014, 12:05 PM	#23
Ninjawolf Thug Join Date: Nov 2012 Posts: 96	Like Cyber said fuze Show is doing great in ratings TMNT, LoK and Spongebob(who I hate) are Nick's biggest shows right now I think... plus TMNT has been selling toys and making money like crazy. By all accounts it's a runaway success.

03-05-2014, 02:02 PM	#25
JTH "ME" Join Date: Mar 2013 Posts: 1,660	How much did the franchise make last year? 450 million? Yeah, ratings are next to irrelevant if the kids are buying the toys in mass quantities.

03-05-2014, 02:04 PM	#26
Donatello19 Merchandise Maniac Join Date: Jun 2012 Location: New York Posts: 5,919	It's doing bad? Pretty sure it's extremely popular, even more so than the 4kids series already, especially with the kids.

03-05-2014, 02:16 PM	#27
CyberCubed Overlord Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 43,880	This thread needs to be locked. The show is doing phenomenally well.

03-05-2014, 04:26 PM	#29
CyberCubed Overlord Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 43,880	Each cartoon made at least 150 episodes. I expect this show to hit at least 150 episodes as well. Of course I'd love to see the cartoon reach the 200 episode milestone if possible.

03-08-2014, 08:55 AM	#34
Metalwolf Mad Scientist Join Date: Jun 2012 Location: Pennsylvania Posts: 1,563	I think I saw those, on the Kmart site, when I was looking up some other figures. Those types of things aren't really my taste though, but I think other people might like them.