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Old 04-24-2014, 06:39 PM   #221
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The real reason Shredder is white in this is because do to the steep budget, paramount is banking on the overseas market (China really) for a large sum of the profits. They are worried that China isn't going to respond well to an Asian villain. Not saying that's the way it SHOULD be. Just saying that's their logic. The only way to do a true to source turtles movie is to make it cheap and low budget. That way you aren't banking over 50% of your grosses on an audience that might never have heard of TMNT. This worked back in the 90s when average movie budget was way under 50 mil, but now, they need that overseas money to break even. I'm excited to see this movie, but I'm also excited for other doors it might open for the turtles. I want to see a traditionally animated film version of the first two volumes of the original comic book series.
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Old 04-24-2014, 06:39 PM   #222
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Nice fine, i wonder what happened there, You can see some Foot Soldiers knocked out in the background.
I guess it's after subway fight, maybe Raph lost his sais like in the 1990 movie...
And look at the size of those sais it's as long as her thighs...
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Old 04-24-2014, 06:44 PM   #223
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I guess it's after subway fight, maybe Raph lost his sais like in the 1990 movie...
And look at the size of those sais it's as long as her thighs...
Its hard to tell, But you can see that the shot appears to be broad daylight, If it were in the Subway, It would look dark.
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I guess it's after subway fight, maybe Raph lost his sais like in the 1990 movie...
And look at the size of those sais it's as long as her thighs...
Sai are usually the length of a person's forearm. Those are not that big actually.
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You just proved my point if this movie flops (failed project) you wont see another movie anytime soon. The original movie open up 25Mill and ended up breaking records for an independent film(130Mill US), the 2007 movie opened up a 24Mill and then dropped off drastically making only apprx. 54Mill (us). Each film since the original has declined in sales and to your point if it doesn't make money (flops) they wont make films. 07 had the potential but because of a uninspired plot people other than turtle fans didn't really see it. Nick sees the potential that's why they bought the franchise, this is nick's shot. TMNT stops making money TMNT will get dumped. Remember history tells us turtlemania can only last but so long failed project after failed project the turtles will go on hiatus again. We need success on all levels (cartoon, comics, movies) for it to stay relevant.
I never said we would get a reboot soon. I said if this movie were to fail, we would get a reboot sooner than we would if this movie spawned sequels. And Nick isn't going to ignore an incredibly successful cartoon and ignore a property because their attempt at a film didn't work. Again, the previous movie gap was during a time where pretty much everything TMNT-related was tanking hard, with the exception of one cartoon project that dipped in quality before it could revive the franchise. If this movie flops (something I've never even claimed is going to happen, BTW) it just means Nick focuses all their attention on the cartoon for a while before thinking about making another movie.

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I agree there are alot of scary ideas, designs, and things being thrown around but it's no different that any other version. Come on just think about it from the original comic to the OT.. Change of origin (shredder created splinter and the turtles in OT), "race bending", asian shredder no accent, New characters (krang, BB&RS), foot soldiers, april.. everything changed but why is that acceptable then but not now?
This question doesn't make a whole lot of sense to me. I like plenty of versions of the Ninja Turtles, but that doesn't mean that I approve of 100% of the decisions that went into them. The pros outweigh the cons quite heavily in most cases. This version, however, is getting practically nothing right, and so I can't support it. It's not that they dare change the turtles that bothers me, it's that they've chosen terrible changes.
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The real reason Shredder is white in this is because do to the steep budget, paramount is banking on the overseas market (China really) for a large sum of the profits.
Surely you have facts/evidence to back up that claim?



If not it's nothing more than mere a rumor.
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Old 04-24-2014, 07:21 PM   #227
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I also wonder if the Still is from the new trailer that's coming out?
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Old 04-24-2014, 07:23 PM   #228
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Surely you have facts/evidence to back up that claim?

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If not it's nothing more than mere a rumor.
It's not a rumor. That is a big part of the movie industry now - not just with TMNT. International box office is more important these days.
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Old 04-24-2014, 07:34 PM   #229
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Here's the full sized HD version of the new still. On the dailynews article of it if you delete the width, height part of the address you get the full 3000x2000 copy of the image instead of just the 400x600 tiny one.

http://www.dailynews.com/apps/pbcsi....-140429720.jpg
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Here's the full sized HD version of the new still. On the dailynews article of it if you delete the width, height part of the address you get the full 3000x2000 copy of the image instead of just the 400x600 tiny one.

http://www.dailynews.com/apps/pbcsi....-140429720.jpg
I found the link to the article that full size image was posted.
http://www.dailynews.com/arts-and-en...-family-affair

There's a little interview with Will arnett about the movie.
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“The Turtles were kind of dormant in the popular culture for a while, but then a few years ago, when Nickelodeon unveiled the animated series, my two young sons started watching and became increasingly pro-Turtle by the day,” says Arnett, who turns 44 on May 4. “By the time the movie came around for me, I was kind of immersed in it.”

Arnett got huge Dad props by taking his boys, now ages 3 and 5, to the New York sets while the movie was being shot last year. He plays TV cameraman Vernon Fenwick, who helps Raphael, Michelangelo, Leonardo, Donatello and reporter April O’Neil (Megan Fox) fight the evil Shredder (William Fichtner) and his minions in the Michael Bay-produced adventure.

“They always wanted to see Shredder, all the different characters,” he recalls. “They’d come and they’d watch rehearsals, especially when we were doing big action scenes. It was cool to share that experience with them.

“It was one of those weird, personal life converging with professional life things in a very organic way, which was kind of similar to my experience on ‘The Lego Movie’ as well,” Arnett happily acknowledges. “But now I’m gonna have to start thinking of some new, big, follow-up tricks, y’know? I think I’m just gonna let their interests dictate what kinds of parts I do from now on.”
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Old 04-24-2014, 07:49 PM   #231
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Nice fine, i wonder what happened there, You can see some Foot Soldiers knocked out in the background.
This obviously follows the part on the Brothers tv spot when Raph ellbows a foot next to the van.
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Old 04-24-2014, 08:10 PM   #232
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ten bucks says ppl are gonna panic thinking that Vernon, and April just beat the foot laid out in the background - and further use this image to add to the 'see...its the Vernon/April movie guest starring the Turtles' fire ALL OVER AGAIN.
Judging by past experiences.. It wouldn't surprise me
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Old 04-24-2014, 08:21 PM   #233
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Nice fine, i wonder what happened there, You can see some Foot Soldiers knocked out in the background.
Pretty cool
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I also wonder if the Still is from the new trailer that's coming out?
that would be nice

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Here's the full sized HD version of the new still. On the dailynews article of it if you delete the width, height part of the address you get the full 3000x2000 copy of the image instead of just the 400x600 tiny one.

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I found the link to the article that full size image was posted.
http://www.dailynews.com/arts-and-en...-family-affair

There's a little interview with Will arnett about the movie.
Lol again i posted the picture and this link a couple pages ago lol
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Old 04-24-2014, 08:27 PM   #234
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It's not a rumor. That is a big part of the movie industry now - not just with TMNT. International box office is more important these days.
Plus some one mentioned an interview with the director and he started just as much on my phone will try to find when i get home
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The real reason Shredder is white in this is because do to the steep budget, paramount is banking on the overseas market (China really) for a large sum of the profits. They are worried that China isn't going to respond well to an Asian villain. Not saying that's the way it SHOULD be. Just saying that's their logic. The only way to do a true to source turtles movie is to make it cheap and low budget. That way you aren't banking over 50% of your grosses on an audience that might never have heard of TMNT. This worked back in the 90s when average movie budget was way under 50 mil, but now, they need that overseas money to break even. I'm excited to see this movie, but I'm also excited for other doors it might open for the turtles. I want to see a traditionally animated film version of the first two volumes of the original comic book series.
Except they still have Karai, who is an asian villain...
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Not really Movie related but pretty awesome none the less
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Except they still have Karai, who is an asian villain...
that kind of argueable here character has always been and anti hero not fully bad not fully good, and if it has ties to the nick show She could very well be either shredders daughter or Splinters, But shes always been in the middle ground
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A movie flop wont doom the franchise, but who wants to wait another 7-15 YEARS for another TMNT movie? I hope this movie is successful so it can crank out a trilogy over the next 6 years. A couple years after that another reboot and maybe that series can meet all of the 2014 movie doubters contradiction checklist. An scenario like the spiderman/ batman trilogy that was successful and then followed up shortly by another reboot.
I feel the exact same way. Im hoping we get a MASSIVE trilogy in the next 6 years : )


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i doubt it will change minds...the truth of the matter is, first impressions are left ingrained in everyone's mind, and if they dont like what they've seen by now, chances are, seeing more wont change their mind.

my hope is that this new trailer will continue to build on the hype still floating around - all i know is that im excited, and for the few of us on these boards looking forward to this film, it is an exciting time.

for those who arent...its just another day.
Agreed dude. Im pretty confident that this next trailer will DEF. add to the hype surrounding this film already. I cant wait for that moment! The second the trailer gets released its like pandemonium lol.

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The real reason Shredder is white in this is because do to the steep budget, paramount is banking on the overseas market (China really) for a large sum of the profits. They are worried that China isn't going to respond well to an Asian villain. Not saying that's the way it SHOULD be. Just saying that's their logic. The only way to do a true to source turtles movie is to make it cheap and low budget. That way you aren't banking over 50% of your grosses on an audience that might never have heard of TMNT. This worked back in the 90s when average movie budget was way under 50 mil, but now, they need that overseas money to break even. I'm excited to see this movie, but I'm also excited for other doors it might open for the turtles. I want to see a traditionally animated film version of the first two volumes of the original comic book series.
I agree with you Seth. I know I read it somewhere from Either Bay or Liebesman that they were worried about offending people. That it has happened with certain films. I think maybe Iron man and some other Superhero film, I could be wrong ill have to check and find the Article. I would have liked to see Saki but who knows if we will or not. Maybe there will be a plot twist. I do know that Fitchner is one of my all time favorite actors and I think he will do a great job playing this villain.

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