The NEW Official Trailer Discussion

[Gimme_Three]

Originally Posted by The Boston Ninja Turtle

actually the Turtles have never officially been on Hiatus since its debut in comics...they have always had some kind of media element unlike other franchises,dare i say even transformers, TMNT has always been in the public eye as some sort of story whether is be TV,video specials, comics, or movies


One movie flop wont kill it, it has a high ranking TV show, a great selling toy line and a very popular comic, sure if it flops we have to wait a while a few years even just using the gap between the 07 flick and this is just 8 years, and that one was meant to have a sequel that never came for other reasons

and i agree with Major, im sorry to sound negative but i really hope this movie doesn't make it past the 1 film so we get a better show at the turtles on the big screen

just because this is the "first" movie on the big screen in 8 years, doesnt mean we should settle for crap

I don't think it will kill it but the debate was whether or not another reboot would happen anytime soon if the movie does flop. yup sounds like the early 90s and then from 97 to 03 there was nothing mainstream until 4kids. I dont know about you but I dont plan on living forever so I'd like for my turtles to remain relevant while im still here on earth.

lol 8 years isn't a long time to you?

I respect your opinion, but why rob yourself of the experience? well everyone on this board is going to see the movie but what happens if it turns out good?

[massakre]

I cant wait for this 2nd trailer.


That is all.

[Bob]

Disappointed with the length. My guess is it will give off the same tone as the “Brothers” TV spot, which I actually quite enjoyed.

[MastahShredder]

Originally Posted by Gimme_Three

I have a bad feeling that shedder suit is going to be more mech than ninja which scares me. I hope this Eric Sachs character has some kind of backround in martial arts.

Which would be a shame. Yeah, the blades and such can be intimidating but they found the perfect balance of it in 1990. Just enough to be used as armor..not enough to weigh him down in the heat of battle. Either way, it wasn't the blades that scared the turtles, they pretty much laughed at him when they saw him drop in..it was the realization that this Shredder guy can put up a fight which went from a goofy confrontation into a battle for their lives.

[Puddinpop]

Originally Posted by Gimme_Three

You just proved my point if this movie flops (failed project) you wont see another movie anytime soon. The original movie open up 25Mill and ended up breaking records for an independent film(130Mill US), the 2007 movie opened up a 24Mill and then dropped off drastically making only apprx. 54Mill (us). Each film since the original has declined in sales and to your point if it doesn't make money (flops) they wont make films. 07 had the potential but because of a uninspired plot people other than turtle fans didn't really see it. Nick sees the potential that's why they bought the franchise, this is nick's shot. TMNT stops making money TMNT will get dumped. Remember history tells us turtlemania can only last but so long failed project after failed project the turtles will go on hiatus again. We need success on all levels (cartoon, comics, movies) for it to stay relevant.

Movies are always approached with the attitude of making money that's the whole point of making movies.

I agree there are alot of scary ideas, designs, and things being thrown around but it's no different that any other version. Come on just think about it from the original comic to the OT.. Change of origin (shredder created splinter and the turtles in OT), "race bending", asian shredder no accent, New characters (krang, BB&RS), foot soldiers, april.. everything changed but why is that acceptable then but not now?

My question is what about the Millions of fans that ARE crazy excited to see this? Should we cancel a movie bc a fraction of the fandom doesn't like the film? and ruin it for others ? Imo that will always be an issue bc there will always be people that don't like the direction of a movie " ESP>TMNT " and they're not wrong for that, at all! But neither are the ones that are really Happy with it. You cant make everyone happy. Some may love the film and think its the best TMNT film ever made and some fans will hate it. If this movie flops financially it will be bc it was poorly done. I also read an interview with either Bay or Liebesman where they were asked about why the Shredder race change and he said something along the lines of " We didn't want to upset anyone" and then laughed, then explained that films have been banned in Asia for portraying Asian people in a bad light " making the bad guy in the film Asian " and that Asia is one of the biggest markets for the U.S film industry. So I guess they were damned if they did and damned if they didn't. I hope that this next trailer will help bring some of the skeptical ones around though, and if it doesn't? its unfortunate but what can you do. You cant cancel it. If a film maker listened to every complaint the film would never be released. I didn't like the fact that they cast Fox as April. I would have loved to see Minka Kelly or Anna Kendric. But Fox most Def. wont ruin the movie for me. I almost feel kind of bad that there are people that wont be able to enjoy this as much as others.. and I don't mean that sarcastically at all! I really do wish it was a movie that everyone could be excited about.. Unfortunately I don't think that will ever be possible : /

[samxsteal]

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[RedRocBoy]

Originally Posted by Puddinpop

My question is what about the Millions of fans that ARE crazy excited to see this? Should we cancel a movie bc a fraction of the fandom doesn't like the film? and ruin it for others ? Imo that will always be an issue bc there will always be people that don't like the direction of a movie " ESP>TMNT " and they're not wrong for that, at all! But neither are the ones that are really Happy with it. You cant make everyone happy. Some may love the film and think its the best TMNT film ever made and some fans will hate it. If this movie flops financially it will be bc it was poorly done. I also read an interview with either Bay or Liebesman where they were asked about why the Shredder race change and he said something along the lines of " We didn't want to upset anyone" and then laughed, then explained that films have been banned in Asia for portraying Asian people in a bad light " making the bad guy in the film Asian " and that Asia is one of the biggest markets for the U.S film industry. So I guess they were damned if they did and damned if they didn't. I hope that this next trailer will help bring some of the skeptical ones around though, and if it doesn't? its unfortunate but what can you do. You cant cancel it. If a film maker listened to every complaint the film would never be released. I didn't like the fact that they cast Fox as April. I would have loved to see Minka Kelly or Anna Kendric. But Fox most Def. wont ruin the movie for me. I almost feel kind of bad that there are people that wont be able to enjoy this as much as others.. and I don't mean that sarcastically at all! I really do wish it was a movie that everyone could be excited about.. Unfortunately I don't think that will ever be possible : /

You sir sre awesome.

[MastahShredder]

Give me some dark yet upbeat music and a shot of Shredder and I'll be a happy camper no matter what else is in it.

[MastahShredder]

Knocked out Foot in the backround and she's holding Raph's sais.

Interesting. They both look a little beat up too. Hopefully Vernon just gets a lucky shot in and they keep him as kind of a goofball who is just along for the ride.

[Vicky82]

Originally Posted by samxsteal

http://24.media.tumblr.com/4237431fe...h24o1_1280.jpg
http://www.dailynews.com/arts-and-en...-family-affair

Nice find and yay a new photo.

[samxsteal]

Originally Posted by MastahShredder

Knocked out Foot in the backround and she's holding Raph's sais.

Interesting. They both look a little beat up too.

seriously doubt the beat up the foot, fallowing raph trying to find him maybe but will and here fighting the foot i seriously doubt it

[graphic_content]

Originally Posted by samxsteal

http://24.media.tumblr.com/4237431fe...h24o1_1280.jpg
http://www.dailynews.com/arts-and-en...-family-affair

ten bucks says ppl are gonna panic thinking that Vernon, and April just beat the foot laid out in the background - and further use this image to add to the 'see...its the Vernon/April movie guest starring the Turtles' fire ALL OVER AGAIN.

[MastahShredder]

Originally Posted by samxsteal

seriously doubt the beat up the foot, fallowing raph trying to find him maybe but will and here fighting the foot i seriously doubt it

I'm not saying they did it. Just that it looks like an action scene. I still bet Vernon gets some sort of lucky shot in while Raph smacks around Foot. I don't think anyone is going to try and assert that April and Vernon are going around beating up people.

[samxsteal]

Originally Posted by MastahShredder

I'm not saying they did it. Just that it looks like an action scene. I still bet Vernon gets some sort of lucky shot in while Raph smacks around Foot. I don't think anyone is going to try and assert that April and Vernon are going around beating up people.

i would agree had it not been brought up and argued before, but i agree with this i can see Vernon getting a lucky shot, but from this photo he has that "April what have you gotten me into" -_- look lol

[graphic_content]

Originally Posted by Puddinpop

I hope that this next trailer will help bring some of the skeptical ones around though, and if it doesn't? its unfortunate but what can you do.

i doubt it will change minds...the truth of the matter is, first impressions are left ingrained in everyone's mind, and if they dont like what they've seen by now, chances are, seeing more wont change their mind.

my hope is that this new trailer will continue to build on the hype still floating around - all i know is that im excited, and for the few of us on these boards looking forward to this film, it is an exciting time.

for those who arent...its just another day.

[MastahShredder]

Originally Posted by samxsteal

i would agree had it not been brought up and argued before, but i agree with this i can see Vernon getting a lucky shot, but from this photo he has that "April what have you gotten me into" -_- look lol

They definitely have a troubled look on their faces. Like, "what the hell did we just get into?" Looks like some sort of parking garage. Maybe it's before the snow chase.

I can't take the suspense!!

[The Boston Ninja Turtle]

Originally Posted by graphic_content

ten bucks says ppl are gonna panic thinking that Vernon, and April just beat the foot laid out in the background - and further use this image to add to the 'see...its the Vernon/April movie guest starring the Turtles' fire ALL OVER AGAIN.

quotes like this are what make me not want to post here anymore and start fights, why does it matter if we think that way when we have not been given any proof to think they arnt the ones who hold up a majority of the movie? i have yet to see anything but that one trailer shot of the turtles fighting and even then only punch we saw was Raphael

[Ramboraph4life aka Matt]

How about showing the Turtles using their Martial Arts fighting in a trailer? In a film called Ninja Turtles, I would think that would be a no brainer to show in a trailer...and if Raph is supposedly the 'main Turtle of the movie', they're sure not making it seem like it so far in the marketing...

[Warhorse]

Originally Posted by graphic_content

I agree to a point...its seems like they want to show enough just to hook you in, but wont reveal too much for fear that it'll ruin the movie going experience. They seem to employ the same strategy when releasing material for Transformers, back by same company and all.

I dont however get how their current releases for the Turtles shows a lack in confidence. Everyone seems to agree that August will be dominated by Guardians of the Galaxy...and for all the arguments about the lack of Turtle marketing...people seem to forget that Guardians (at the time of this writing) only has ONE official trailer out, and character spots, that last only 30 seconds a piece, and just rehash footage from the trailer - yet nobody is saying that Marvel doesn't have faith in this property.

Well, there may have been one GOTG trailer, but at least that one trailer actually shows all of the stars of the movie, and even gives some tidbits, and we even get hints of their characters, all in a 90 second trailer. We are going on to the second trailer, and a TV spot, and we haven't been even given a proper introduction to all of the Turtles. That's sad.

Originally Posted by MajorViolence

First of all, 7 years is a reasonable estimate, but 15? Come on, this movie could make negative money and it wouldn't be more than a decade before a reboot comes along, let alone 15 years.

And if this movie spawns a trilogy, I'm going to be waiting at least 12-15 years before the release a TMNT movie I care to see comes out. I'd much rather it tank and I wait for a reboot.

Same here. I wouldn't want to be stuck with these awful designs for the next 7 years. Hope this is like the Next Mutation. Keep the cool stuff, like Raph's bike, but ditch everything else, like Venus. Only in case of the movie, maybe some action scenes showing some brute strength from Raph would be cool, but the fish lips and pig noses will only be seen in this movie.

Originally Posted by Gimme_Three

Your no doubt a fan, but how can you root against something you love? Not sure how old you are but do you remember when the turtles were dormant? during that time my turtles fix can from going on ninja turtles website that look like a high school kid design looking for updates on fan art sent in by fans. I like my turtles to be relevant.

by the way Whats your favorite version of the turtles?

Depends on what's being done to the thing I love. I love horses, but protest like crazy against horse racing because I think it's cruel to them. I love my TMNT, but I am going to root against something that I find is bastardizing them.

Originally Posted by The Boston Ninja Turtle

actually the Turtles have never officially been on Hiatus since its debut in comics...they have always had some kind of media element unlike other franchises,dare i say even transformers, TMNT has always been in the public eye as some sort of story whether is be TV,video specials, comics, or movies


One movie flop wont kill it, it has a high ranking TV show, a great selling toy line and a very popular comic, sure if it flops we have to wait a while a few years even just using the gap between the 07 flick and this is just 8 years, and that one was meant to have a sequel that never came for other reasons

and i agree with Major, im sorry to sound negative but i really hope this movie doesn't make it past the 1 film so we get a better show at the turtles on the big screen

just because this is the "first" movie on the big screen in 8 years, doesnt mean we should settle for crap

I hope the movie does alright at the box office, maybe just not enough to recoup it's budget back, and I hope people who aren't happy with it write and email letters to Nick and let them know what was screwed up. But chances are, they won't listen. Has Nick had any decent live action movies come from their cartoon lineups? After Avatar and Dragon Ball Z, and if TMNT follows suit, perhaps they should consider finding another ceo to be in charge of the movie house.

[The Boston Ninja Turtle]

Originally Posted by Puddinpop

that films have been banned in Asia for portraying Asian people in a bad light " making the bad guy in the film Asian

ok no offense but your post was a little hard to read..but this one line stood out

here is the thing.."Bad light" does not mean "Bad guy" or "Villain"

when a film is banned in another country for showing that race in a bad light it almost always means that it is making fun of that race,I.E portrayed as drug dealers,rapists, ETC

the Shredder or Oroku Saki is not portraying a japanese actor in bad light

Bay and Co are just covering their a$$es because they know they write stereotypical characters had a asain be cast it would not surprise me if it was another "Deep Wang" played by the same actor (and i like the guy in the right roles)

would not surprise me one bit if the turtles are over stereotypical characters

Originally Posted by Warhorse

After Avatar and Dragon Ball Z, and if TMNT follows suit, perhaps they should consider finding another ceo to be in charge of the movie house.

honestly i would be all four that, and its not that farfetched, the same thing happened with the Muppets..the original ceo in charge didnt care so from 2004-2010 nothing really happened till someone else was put in charge, who not only actually cared about the franchise but actually made things happen