The NEW Official Trailer Discussion

[electric_sheep]

Originally Posted by samxsteal

Things you call horrible i call lack of info or Personal Opinions,

Turtle look I love as do many.
Origins have heavy ties to all version of tmnt mixed into one
Casting I love
Tone I love


As do many others.

Some disagree others do not

You give them waaaaay to much credit...

The casting, Megan Fox (who never made a good movie and never was good in one)
William Fichtner (Who you get to play a generic villain in every movie)

Jonathan Liebesman (Who also never made a good movie)

but those are mostly nitpicks. The thing that bothers me most about this movie is the politics behind it.
Oh, it's in poor taste to have a Japanese man as a villain, we'll just scrap everything and call him Eric sach or something like that.
Action has to be EXTREEEEEMEEEEE, you see people are dumb and normal realistic action can't hold their atention anymore, everything has to shake and explode, short turtles? What a bunch of pussies, how can something that short fight? 7 foot tall hulking monstrosties, now that looks like it can do some real damage, they have to smack Foot soldiers around like flies...

[Sewer Sirens Podcast]

Originally Posted by samxsteal

Lets not do spiderman marketing which gives away way to much. I love the movie but the marketing was so over board it was counter productive just abo0ut everyone on line agrees with this as well.

Originally Posted by samxsteal

I just dont want them to push it like Spiderman or xmen are doing

Originally Posted by SwiftNinjaFox

I dunno...Spider-Man turned out to show less since they didn't use half of the trailers

(Okay, this is a side note, but there was SO much cut out of Amazing Spider-Man 2 that ended up not getting used, that there's a petition for a director's cut: http://www.change.org/en-AU/petition...-and-dvd#share I suggest signing it, because it would be sweet to see all of these cut scenes added into the movie, and would make this 'amazing' film even more 'amazing'-er.)

[Bry]

Originally Posted by Sewer Sirens Podcast

(Okay, this is a side note, but there was SO much cut out of Amazing Spider-Man 2 that ended up not getting used, that there's a petition for a director's cut: http://www.change.org/en-AU/petition...-and-dvd#share I suggest signing it, because it would be sweet to see all of these cut scenes added into the movie, and would make this 'amazing' film even more 'amazing'-er.)

Totally off-topic, but man... that movie was 2 hours and 20 minutes even with all of that cut out! They clearly had enough material for two movies, and it would have worked so much better if they just focused on the Electro story and saved the Osborn stuff for the next movie.

[Radical Raph]

The issue for ASM2 wasn't that they needed to add more, but that they needed to cut so much out of it.

[electric_sheep]

Originally Posted by Radical Raph

The issue for ASM2 wasn't that they needed to add more, but that they needed to cut so much out of it.

First 10 minuts or so, why do we need that? We alredy know that those people die, they could have easily cut out that part, then there's like 5 same conversations with Peter and Gwen, two of them needed to go. That time would be so much better spent if given to Max or Harry...

[tmntmikey23]

Originally Posted by Bry

Totally off-topic, but man... that movie was 2 hours and 20 minutes even with all of that cut out! They clearly had enough material for two movies, and it would have worked so much better if they just focused on the Electro story and saved the Osborn stuff for the next movie.

i know he might be a supper small of topic but its not like half of you dont go off topic if i am right you been talking about the new movie toys all day on the tmnt 2014 movie thread right that totally off topic

[Radical Raph]

Originally Posted by electric_sheep

First 10 minuts or so, why do we need that? We alredy know that those people die, they could have easily cut out that part, then there's like 5 same conversations with Peter and Gwen, two of them needed to go. That time would be so much better spent if given to Max or Harry...

Exactly. So stupid. The first ten minutes had me thinking I was watching a James Bond movie. They just built up this story about his parents so much in the first movie that they felt they had to deliver more of it in the sequel, but instead they just crammed it in with everything else. And it really doesn't lend much of anything to the movie as a whole.

It would have been so much better if the movie had just started off with the Spider-man symbol and Peter swinging around the city to stop Rhino. Much more engaging intro for a movie called Amazing SPIDER-MAN not Amazing Spider-man's Parents.

[Sewer Sirens Podcast]

Originally Posted by Radical Raph

The issue for ASM2 wasn't that they needed to add more, but that they needed to cut so much out of it.

I agree on some aspects. I feel like some of the wrong parts ended up getting cut out, and some of the wrong parts were kept in. (Example: the Green Goblin fight was a whole lot longer, yet some parts in the movie really lagged.)

Originally Posted by electric_sheep

First 10 minuts or so, why do we need that? We alredy know that those people die, they could have easily cut out that part, then there's like 5 same conversations with Peter and Gwen, two of them needed to go. That time would be so much better spent if given to Max or Harry...

I kind of agree with you, there was a WHOLE lot of reflecting on the past and romance in this movie, so much so it got to the point where it started to slow the movie down. However, the reason I believe they kept so much of that in there (at least Peter and Gwen) is because

Spoiler:

of what happens at the end. They want it to emotionally hit us, and since we have watched these characters grow so much and have invested into their relationship, it did.

[MrTMNT2012]

Becoming less hyped for this movie. I liked the TV Spot better than the second trailer, I won't get hyped again until we get to see the Turtles in action making wisecracks and being brothers!

[#MechaFresh]

Originally Posted by Matt2310

hahahah YES DUDE that is ME hes talking to!!! thats like the 4th time he has responded to me thru twitter over TMNT

im trying to see if he will tell me if krang is in it too

HAHA Nice Dude! Communication is the Key

[slingtheory]

Originally Posted by Radical Raph

Exactly. So stupid. The first ten minutes had me thinking I was watching a James Bond movie. They just built up this story about his parents so much in the first movie that they felt they had to deliver more of it in the sequel, but instead they just crammed it in with everything else. And it really doesn't lend much of anything to the movie as a whole.

It would have been so much better if the movie had just started off with the Spider-man symbol and Peter swinging around the city to stop Rhino. Much more engaging intro for a movie called Amazing SPIDER-MAN not Amazing Spider-man's Parents.

I agree 100% but I just wanted to say how ironic I found the james bond part because in the comics his parents are actually spies and died on a mission

[samxsteal]

Originally Posted by Sewer Sirens Podcast

I agree on some aspects. I feel like some of the wrong parts ended up getting cut out, and some of the wrong parts were kept in. (Example: the Green Goblin fight was a whole lot longer, yet some parts in the movie really lagged.)



I kind of agree with you, there was a WHOLE lot of reflecting on the past and romance in this movie, so much so it got to the point where it started to slow the movie down. However, the reason I believe they kept so much of that in there (at least Peter and Gwen) is because

Spoiler:

of what happens at the end. They want it to emotionally hit us, and since we have watched these characters grow so much and have invested into their relationship, it did.

Spoiler:

DUDE I CRIED so har man i love Emma and Andrew as a couple there chemistry was perfect way better then Toby and ?Kirstin? and i new what was going to happen from the comic but still made me weep lol

Originally Posted by electric_sheep

You give them waaaaay to much credit...

The casting, Megan Fox (who never made a good movie and never was good in one)
William Fichtner (Who you get to play a generic villain in every movie)

Jonathan Liebesman (Who also never made a good movie)

but those are mostly nitpicks. The thing that bothers me most about this movie is the politics behind it.
Oh, it's in poor taste to have a Japanese man as a villain, we'll just scrap everything and call him Eric sach or something like that.
Action has to be EXTREEEEEMEEEEE, you see people are dumb and normal realistic action can't hold their atention anymore, everything has to shake and explode, short turtles? What a bunch of pussies, how can something that short fight? 7 foot tall hulking monstrosties, now that looks like it can do some real damage, they have to smack Foot soldiers around like flies...

Megan I have seen act very well in various movies As a small role and do a very good job IMO in Jennifer's body
Johnathan i love aspects of all his movies like Wrath and Battle LA i didn't really like the primus of BLA but with what he had it was good IMO

Fichtner i have to diss agree with you this guy is amazing as an actor he does really well with character acting Hes intense and can pull of a imposing villain

Originally Posted by Sewer Sirens Podcast

(Okay, this is a side note, but there was SO much cut out of Amazing Spider-Man 2 that ended up not getting used, that there's a petition for a director's cut: http://www.change.org/en-AU/petition...-and-dvd#share I suggest signing it, because it would be sweet to see all of these cut scenes added into the movie, and would make this 'amazing' film even more 'amazing'-er.)

im going lol sign it total

[tmntmikey23]

none of my business but why does everyone hate Megan Fox so much i only dont like her a little bit cus she is the start of the movie but why do you guys hate her :/
A.Cus She is dumb and cant act
B.Just Because
C.All Of The Above

[Ramboraph4life aka Matt]

Originally Posted by tmntmikey23

none of my business but why does everyone hate Megan Fox so much i only dont like her a little bit cus she is the start of the movie but why do you guys hate her :/
A.Cus She is dumb and cant act
B.Just Because
C.All Of The Above

I didn't care for her acting at all in Jonah Hex. I didn't care for her acting at all in Jennifer's Body. She was just window dressing for guys in the two Transformer films. And, I have a good feeling we'll get more screen time of Megan Fox than any of the Turtles.

And screen time for an actress that gives wooden performances, has given no Genuine emotional reactions in any role she has done in the past, and let's face it got hired more for looks than acting ability. Just because April doesn't need to be an 'Oscar worthy performance' doesn't mean I want to follow a wooden, dull, bland performer (based on Jonah Hex & Jennifer's Body & Transformers films she had done) for an entire flick.

Let alone the very good possibility that she'll get the most screen time of anybody (including more than the Turtles themselves).

That's why.

[electric_sheep]

Originally Posted by Ramboraph4life aka Matt

I didn't care for her acting at all in Jonah Hex. I didn't care for her acting at all in Jennifer's Body. She was just window dressing for guys in the two Transformer films. And, I have a good feeling we'll get more screen time of Megan Fox than any of the Turtles.

And screen time for an actress that gives wooden performances, has given no Genuine emotional reactions in any role she has done in the past, and let's face it got hired more for looks than acting ability. Just because April doesn't need to be an 'Oscar worthy performance' doesn't mean I want to follow a wooden, dull, bland performer (based on Jonah Hex & Jennifer's Body & Transformers films she had done) for an entire flick.

Let alone the very good possibility that she'll get the most screen time of anybody (including more than the Turtles themselves).

That's why.

All the botox in her face didn't help her emote more either...

[MastahShredder]

Closely looking at the Shredder toy. It's most likely a tech-suit. Look at the knees and thighs. That looks like some type of robotic functioning being used to walk. I'm not trying to go all Alex Jones but the suit looks extremely heavy.

I think the suit mechanically opens up and you slide into it.

[electric_sheep]

Originally Posted by MastahShredder

Closely looking at the Shredder toy. It's most likely a tech-suit. Look at the knees and thighs. That looks like some type of robotic functioning being used to walk. I'm not trying to go all Alex Jones but the suit looks extremely heavy.

I think the suit mechanically opens up and you slide into it.

http://i.imgur.com/MxkMBCj.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/MCg7kdd.gif

My call is that the suit is called The Shredder, Like The Shredder Project.
At the end you will hear Fichtner say "Activate the Shredder project" and you will see some door open opening behind him and reaviling the Shredder Mech...

[MastahShredder]

Originally Posted by electric_sheep

My call is that the suit is called The Shredder, Like The Shredder Project.
At the end you will hear Fichtner say "Activate the Shredder project" and you will see some door open opening behind him and reaviling the Shredder Mech...

I said it in another thread. He probably creates the Turtles who end up wreaking havoc on him so they create the Shredder suit as a combatant to that. I think Fichtner gave it away when he said:

"They're are guys who become Shredder. That's also my understanding of it. So when Shredder becomes Shredder in this movie, it gets into the real back-story of his fascination with..and I can't give away too much but it gets into his deep fascination of armor and who is the Shredder who he creates. Anybody could play Shredder when they put the Shredder suit on. I don't care if it's an actor that's 5' tall. He's going to be Shredder and Shredder is a bad dude."

Sounds like once you put this suit on, you can do things like fight giant turtles who can smash Hummers and a giant rat.

Now, who gets into it will be intriguing. I'm still not 100% sold it's Sachs.

[electric_sheep]

Originally Posted by MastahShredder

I said it in another thread. He probably creates the Turtles who end up wreaking havoc on him so they create the Shredder suit as a combatant to that. I think Fichtner gave it away when he said:



Sounds like once you put this suit on, you can do things like fight giant turtles who can smash Hummers and a giant rat.

Now, who gets into it will be intriguing. I'm still not 100% sold it's Sachs.

So fichtner is a guy who likes Japanese culture and he models his robot mech's on his fascinations. super soldier serum will play some part in there too (Yeah, it's not mutagen, it's super soldier serum)Sounds just like shredder from the comics, doesen't it?

[Sumac]

Sounds like once you put this suit on, you can do things like fight giant turtles who can smash Hummers and a giant rat.

It would be interesting twist, if you put this suit once, you can't remove it.
Or "Turtles" make it so he will not be able to remove it.