The NEW Official Trailer Discussion

[samxsteal]

Originally Posted by The Boston Ninja Turtle

could mean reshoots maybe? especially if he is still under contract?

Yeah I was thinking that I dont think he is as upset with what happened though but IDK we will see later

[Sewer Sirens Podcast]

I remember a time when Danny's casting was announced, and people were WORRIED about his portrayal of Splinter. Now he gets recast, and it seems like a lot of people suddenly want Danny back, and think his portrayal of Splinter is probably (or would've been) great.

Personally, from what we've heard, and from what I know about both actors, I prefer Tony Shaloub. However, I do feel super bad for Danny. He was really into and excited for his part, and so that stinks.

[samxsteal]

Originally Posted by Sewer Sirens Podcast

I remember a time when Danny's casting was announced, and people were WORRIED about his portrayal of Splinter. Now he gets recast, and it seems like a lot of people suddenly want Danny back, and think he has probably done a great portrayal of Splinter.

Personally, from what we've heard, and from what I know about both actors, I prefer Tony Shaloub. However, I do feel super bad for Danny. He was really into and excited for his part, and so that stinks.

this is how i feel I feel bad for him but Tony's voice sound more iconic and "splintery" then Danny's voice which is higher pitched

[#MechaFresh]

Came across this on Danny's twitter page earlier.

[graphic_content]

Originally Posted by AlphaAF

World lesson, bro ... business is cut throat. It's the very definition of cruel.

Not always, depends on who you do business with.

[Candy Kappa]

Woodburn did voice work for a video game, something he announced before the recasting came to light. So something is off about the whole ordeal. And since it's so popular to highlight how much people on the movie are fans, Woodburn was a fan of the Mirage comics, according to his own twitter.

Originally Posted by AlphaAF

Nah bruh. I just went to "Micro Championship Wrestling" this past weekend. Midget is acceptable. Or am I offending all the midgets posting on technodrome? Is this how soft we are as a society now

It's all about context, and midget have been out of date as a term for people with dwarfism that have a proportionate body a long time now. And is often regarded as a derogatory term, so why is it so hard to use the still viable term Dwarf?

Also, going by technicality, I don't think Woodburn goes under as a midget as he isn't proportionate like a person without dwarfism, since that is what the term Midget is when regarding people of dwarfism. Midget could also be used for people without dwarfism but are really short.

[Sighphi]

Originally Posted by AlphaAF

Woodburn seems like a scorned ex-GF to me about all of this.

Actors fight for screentime and credits all the time because that's what gets them jobs. I dont know how the credits are going to roll but it likely that his name is now going to fall further down the line since he is not doing the voice.

[Radical Raph]

Originally Posted by SwiftNinjaFox

"That's what your father and I were trying to do, Ms. O'Neil. Create heroes......we spared no expense."

One thing that popped into my head a bit ago. This whole line about Sachs and Mr. O'Neil creating heroes.....what if it's nowhere in the film? Like at all. What if that entire plot isn't even part of the movie?

Think that's crazy? Let's have a look at this real quick:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nbp3Ra3Yp74

Go ahead and skip to 52 second mark.

Oscorp had Peter under surveillance, a plot point I believe is in every trailer for ASM3, yet there's no mention of it whatsoever in the final cut. There's also the edited cut in the trailer of Harry asking his father about Peter, to which Norman replies "not everyone has a happy ending" which would imply Norman had plans for Peter (also goes back to the surveillance angle). Yet none of this is in the movie.

Just a random thought for speculation, but what if they're using completely unused scrap for the TMNT trailer?

I think that this is probably true. Even if Sachs does say those same lines, they're probably edited together to be a more concise speech.

Also the line Harry says, "Well, isn't that the question of the day," was in every trailer, but not in the movie.

[Radical Raph]

Originally Posted by Candy Kappa

Woodburn did voice work for a video game, something he announced before the recasting came to light. So something is off about the whole ordeal. And since it's so popular to highlight how much people on the movie are fans, Woodburn was a fan of the Mirage comics, according to his own twitter.



It's all about context, and midget have been out of date as a term for people with dwarfism that have a proportionate body a long time now. And is often regarded as a derogatory term, so why is it so hard to use the still viable term Dwarf?

Also, going by technicality, I don't think Woodburn goes under as a midget as he isn't proportionate like a person without dwarfism, since that is what the term Midget is when regarding people of dwarfism. Midget could also be used for people without dwarfism but are really short.

It's possible he could still be replaced on the video game, but probably not since hiring him was probably cheaper. Megatron had a different voice for the Transformers games, too.

[Matt2310]

Originally Posted by #MechaFresh

Came across this on Danny's twitter page earlier.

hahahah YES DUDE that is ME hes talking to!!! thats like the 4th time he has responded to me thru twitter over TMNT

im trying to see if he will tell me if krang is in it too

[electric_sheep]

Originally Posted by Matt2310

hahahah YES DUDE that is ME hes talking to!!! thats like the 4th time he has responded to me thru twitter over TMNT

im trying to see if he will tell me if krang is in it too

Ask him what he thinks about the script, though he would never tell you, lawyers would tear him apart...

[Lou 500]

I really hope the DVD comes with some concept art so we can see what they at least considered. From what I've seen of Legend Effects and Weta Digital, they're good at translating animals into CG. I have a feeling that the original head designs were a lot more turtlish, but they decided to go with the humanoid look because then they'd be more "relatable" or something.

[MajorViolence]

Originally Posted by SwiftNinjaFox

"That's what your father and I were trying to do, Ms. O'Neil. Create heroes......we spared no expense."

One thing that popped into my head a bit ago. This whole line about Sachs and Mr. O'Neil creating heroes.....what if it's nowhere in the film? Like at all. What if that entire plot isn't even part of the movie?

Think that's crazy? Let's have a look at this real quick:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nbp3Ra3Yp74

Go ahead and skip to 52 second mark.

Oscorp had Peter under surveillance, a plot point I believe is in every trailer for ASM3, yet there's no mention of it whatsoever in the final cut. There's also the edited cut in the trailer of Harry asking his father about Peter, to which Norman replies "not everyone has a happy ending" which would imply Norman had plans for Peter (also goes back to the surveillance angle). Yet none of this is in the movie.

Just a random thought for speculation, but what if they're using completely unused scrap for the TMNT trailer?

I highly doubt it. I'm sure there's been editing done to the dialog in the trailer, and there's likely to be some shots that don't appear in the film, but generally speaking, trailers don't set out to be misleading about the films they're promoting, they're just showing you what they feel is going to make people buy tickets. ASM2's trailer was so misleading because Webb has a habit of packing way too many subplots into these films and a lot of it winds up on the cutting room floor in the final edits. The previous Spidey film had a lot of unused shots in its trailers as well, because the Sony wanted to focus on the Richard Parker story to distance the film from Raimi's trilogy, but ultimately it was decided that it distracted too much from the main plot. I just don't see any reason for TMNT to be doing the same. The dialog in question is discussing the turtles' own origin, and that doesn't strike me as the sort of thing a film could just cut. The final film may wind up showing an extremely different version of that scene, but I'm pretty certain that scene will be in there.

[samxsteal]

Originally Posted by MajorViolence

I highly doubt it. I'm sure there's been editing done to the dialog in the trailer, and there's likely to be some shots that don't appear in the film, but generally speaking, trailers don't set out to be misleading about the films they're promoting, they're just showing you what they feel is going to make people buy tickets. ASM2's trailer was so misleading because Webb has a habit of packing way too many subplots into these films and a lot of it winds up on the cutting room floor in the final edits. The previous Spidey film had a lot of unused shots in its trailers as well, because the Sony wanted to focus on the Richard Parker story to distance the film from Raimi's trilogy, but ultimately it was decided that it distracted too much from the main plot. I just don't see any reason for TMNT to be doing the same. The dialog in question is discussing the turtles' own origin, and that doesn't strike me as the sort of thing a film could just cut. The final film may wind up showing an extremely different version of that scene, but I'm pretty certain that scene will be in there.

And yet movies do this very often. Back to the ASM and the HArry scene being cut, it was the main focus for many of the older trailers, making it seem it was a very important plot point. Other movies do this as well some do the opposite and just give away whole plot points, which i would rather this movie not do. Now another thing we have to take into account its the freaking shredder talking to April. Do we seriously think he's being Honest with her? do you think this one trailer has the full honest origins of the turtles, I seriously doubt it especially seeing as its coming from shredder.

[SwiftNinjaFox]

Originally Posted by samxsteal

And yet movies do this very often. Back to the ASM and the HArry scene being cut, it was the main focus for many of the older trailers, making it seem it was a very important plot point. Other movies do this as well some do the opposite and just give away whole plot points, which i would rather this movie not do. Now another thing we have to take into account its the freaking shredder talking to April. Do we seriously think he's being Honest with her? do you think this one trailer has the full honest origins of the turtles, I seriously doubt it especially seeing as its coming from shredder.

C'mon, man. Why you gotta be so negative with your conspiracy theories? Mr. Sachs is an upstanding citizen and a pillar of the community. Why wouldn't you trust him?!

[MajorViolence]

Originally Posted by samxsteal

And yet movies do this very often. Back to the ASM and the HArry scene being cut, it was the main focus for many of the older trailers, making it seem it was a very important plot point. Other movies do this as well some do the opposite and just give away whole plot points, which i would rather this movie not do. Now another thing we have to take into account its the freaking shredder talking to April. Do we seriously think he's being Honest with her? do you think this one trailer has the full honest origins of the turtles, I seriously doubt it especially seeing as its coming from shredder.

My point wasn't the truth of his statement, it was that such an important scene wouldn't be completely removed from the film. The only reason the Harry scene in ASM2's trailers even seems important is because it was used so heavily. A subplot concerning Harry discovering Oscorp's surveillance of Peter wouldn't have been very important to the film, not on the level of Eric Sachs revealing how the turtles came to be. The Spider-Man plot is something that was completely intended to be featured in the film but was cut because it was unimportant, the TMNT scene is a major plot point. Do you really think it's likely that they specifically shot a scene for the trailer giving a completely inaccurate account of the turtles' creation, just to mess with people? That scene is going to be in the movie. It may be edited differently, it may be extremely different from the trailers, but it's going to be there.

[Radical Raph]

Originally Posted by MajorViolence

My point wasn't the truth of his statement, it was that such an important scene wouldn't be completely removed from the film. The only reason the Harry scene in ASM2's trailers even seems important is because it was used so heavily. A subplot concerning Harry discovering Oscorp's surveillance of Peter wouldn't have been very important to the film, not on the level of Eric Sachs revealing how the turtles came to be. The Spider-Man plot is something that was completely intended to be featured in the film but was cut because it was unimportant, the TMNT scene is a major plot point. Do you really think it's likely that they specifically shot a scene for the trailer giving a completely inaccurate account of the turtles' creation, just to mess with people? That scene is going to be in the movie. It may be edited differently, it may be extremely different from the trailers, but it's going to be there.

A lot of the scenes in the final movie weren't important to the film either.

[tmntmikey23]

Originally Posted by SwiftNinjaFox

C'mon, man. Why you gotta be so negative with your conspiracy theories? Mr. Sachs is an upstanding citizen and a pillar of the community. Why wouldn't you trust him?!

well i would not trust him and sam is not being negative he giving his opinion

[MajorViolence]

Originally Posted by Radical Raph

A lot of the scenes in the final movie weren't important to the film either.

I can't argue with that, haha.

[Bry]

Originally Posted by Sewer Sirens Podcast

I remember a time when Danny's casting was announced, and people were WORRIED about his portrayal of Splinter. Now he gets recast, and it seems like a lot of people suddenly want Danny back, and think his portrayal of Splinter is probably (or would've been) great.

Personally, from what we've heard, and from what I know about both actors, I prefer Tony Shaloub. However, I do feel super bad for Danny. He was really into and excited for his part, and so that stinks.

I wouldn't say it's that people are clamoring for Woodburn to play the character so much as they're recognizing how poorly he was treated over this. The fact that he had to find out about the recasting secondhand via a press release and social media is pretty rotten.