Has Guardians of the Galaxy already won August

[voltron80]

Originally Posted by Galactus

What's hypocritical about the "anti-movie" people?

Firstly generalizing in this way is flowed as the reason(s) I dislike the upcoming may be different to another person who also disliked the upcoming movie. So you're bound to get variety in the arguments against.

If anything the movies boosters are easy to group together but in debating this I've heard way contradictory defenses from the "pro" crowd in defending the movies various choices that I'd say are hypocritical.

Also...I kid you not...I've been accused of being a plant for Disney to disparage this movie even though I've been posting here for years.



Well obviously not but there'd still be a fair amount. You see a movie with a similar appeal comparisons are bound to come up. I can't help but look at how Rocket looks like the comic character come to life and then look at the turtles and think "why can't it be like that for TMNT?". I'd be thinking that regardless of when GOTG was released.



That's not true at all otherwise other versions of the TMNT wouldn't have found an audience.

There's acceptable change and unacceptable change. Obviously there's no manual to say how far you can take it before fans dislike it but again I can't help but think other franchises managing this fairly well.

The hypocrisy comes in the form of anti movie posters can talk their mess to pro-movie posters but when someone pushes back on the anti flick people then you see post about "respect my opinion" and "we all got different taste". But then the anti movie folks have short-term memory lost and that's ok. Again I never told the anti people they gotta love the movie only closet thing I ever say was I find it odd that people who call themselves turtles fans wanting this movie to fail because it's different. I didn't think Spider-Man needed a reboot but I didn't root for "The Amazing Spider-Man" to fail.

As for Guardians it looks like a generic sci-fi movie heavily banking on two things pop culture references that will make the nerds and the Marvel marks giggle in their seats and the Marvel brand where people are going to see this movie to see if there are Avengers connections.
As for the Turtles I look at each criticism and the only one that has merit is the design part I didn't believe they need to leave from what we're used to i.e. brown belts with brown knee and elbow pads. If the turtles had their traditional outfits and still look the way they do in the movie people wouldn't say much. But their personalities are still there, there is a Japanese Shredder(probably) and they're mutants. Everything else is just noise on the we hate this movie front.

[Bry]

Originally Posted by Bob

I think GOTG looks visually dull as anything. To a visually-minded person like me that comes as a great disappointment and unwelcome surprise.

Originally Posted by voltron80

As for Guardians it looks like a generic sci-fi movie

I mean, everyone has different tastes, and to each their own, but...







...man, do I not get where these criticisms are coming from at all.

Originally Posted by Bob

The colour palette looks generic and boring, too many browns, dark blues and blacks. Also, the aliens on show just seem to be people painted blue or some other colour.

I find this kind of funny, considering the heavily-filtered, artificially-contrasty style that the TMNT movie has. I'd argue GotG has a better and more appealing colour palette between the two - it looks good, it looks fun, but it also looks "natural", if that makes sense? I find the overall style of BayTurtles pretty obnoxious by comparison.

But that's a matter of personal taste, so... y'know.

[Xiewin]

The only problem I have with this forum is when threads like this are being created:

"Could a DVD release "salvage" this movie with alterations and changes?"

"Did the devil sponsor this movie"?

yeah those aren't opinions, that's unnecessary criticism...

[Warhorse]

Originally Posted by Bry

I mean, everyone has different tastes, and to each their own, but...

http://s7.postimg.org/c7m4ud0mz/gotg1.jpg
http://s11.postimg.org/f3gj6xxw3/gotg2.jpg
http://s21.postimg.org/mb6ujcuaf/gotg3.jpg
http://s21.postimg.org/qa8nfx8bb/gotg4.jpg
http://s21.postimg.org/ojpmefqs7/gotg5.jpg

...man, do I not get where these criticisms are coming from at all.



I find this kind of funny, considering the heavily-filtered, artificially-contrasty style that the TMNT movie has. I'd argue GotG has a better and more appealing colour palette between the two - it looks good, it looks fun, but it also looks "natural", if that makes sense? I find the overall style of BayTurtles pretty obnoxious by comparison.

But that's a matter of personal taste, so... y'know.

The criticism is far and few in between, kind of like TDK. You have a few sour apples, but for the majority of the bag, it's perfectly ripe.

That top picture is the number one reason why I am going to see this thing in IMAX 3D. The soundtrack to this thing is looking to be a must have for music lovers everywhere. I wouldn't be surprised if the soundtrack turns out to be this years Bodyguard. Word is they are going to be releasing 3 albums worth of music! I've already seen the collector's edition, which looks absolutely sweet.



It just looks so retro, blasts me back to the past when Star Wars first came out.

Originally Posted by Xiewin View Post
The only problem I have with this forum is when threads like this are being created:

"Could a DVD release "salvage" this movie with alterations and changes?"

"Did the devil sponsor this movie"?

yeah those aren't opinions, that's unnecessary criticism...

Dude, it's only going to get worse once the movie is out. And the last I checked, this forum is open to any criticism except for on the 80's toon. That's the only thing that is off limits. So why should your precious TMNT 14 movie be off limits? 2k3, Nick, Next Mutation, the previous 4 movies, the comics, wars going on between which is the better Turtle, hell, there are even people who criticize the creators for crying out loud, all the time, and I don't even see anything remotely the flame wars and the locking of threads as what happens in the movie section. I just want to know what makes the new movie such an untouchable God for some that they want any criticism to be shut down and anyone who doesn't love the movie to be banned. Really, you people need to get over yourselves. This isn't the first TMNT movie, and I highly doubt it's going to be the BE ALL END ALL of all TMNT movies from here on out.

[unlundun]

Originally Posted by Xiewin

The only problem I have with this forum is when threads like this are being created:

"Could a DVD release "salvage" this movie with alterations and changes?"

"Did the devil sponsor this movie"?

yeah those aren't opinions, that's unnecessary criticism...

its just makes me want to leave this forum, so much wasted breath here, but i for one am still heartened by those who genuinely look forward to this film, im so excited to see the TMNT on the big screen! flying to sweden to see it opening weekend!

[Xiewin]

Originally Posted by Warhorse

Dude, it's only going to get worse once the movie is out. And the last I checked, this forum is open to any criticism except for on the 80's toon. That's the only thing that is off limits. So why should your precious TMNT 14 movie be off limits? 2k3, Nick, Next Mutation, the previous 4 movies, the comics, wars going on between which is the better Turtle, hell, there are even people who criticize the creators for crying out loud, all the time, and I don't even see anything remotely the flame wars and the locking of threads as what happens in the movie section. I just want to know what makes the new movie such an untouchable God for some that they want any criticism to be shut down and anyone who doesn't love the movie to be banned. Really, you people need to get over yourselves. This isn't the first TMNT movie, and I highly doubt it's going to be the BE ALL END ALL of all TMNT movies from here on out.

WHAT are you talking about?? I was just referring to those topics that were created were just plain unnecessary. What is the point of saying does the devil sponsor this movie or can someone salvage this it because we all know it's going to be terrible??

There are hypocrites on both sides, for people who love this movie and those who hate it. I have never said you have to like it, Where did you get that conclusion from?? What about the fact that you called me a troll and a tmnt studio plant on the GOTG superherohype forum for not liking the 17 minute preview?? Of course people can voice their concerns about this film, but I just hate it when people create those type of topics for NO reason. You don't have to like the designs, the changes, or cast choice, but Jeezz... You literally twisted my words out of proportion here.

[Vicky82]

Dawn of the Planet of the Apes got $73 million this weekend and I heard its an excellent movie (I won't be seeing it as the whole franchise doesn't appeal to me). I think GOTG will do less than that at opening weekend.

[Bob]

Originally Posted by Bry

I mean, everyone has different tastes, and to each their own, but...

http://s7.postimg.org/c7m4ud0mz/gotg1.jpg
http://s11.postimg.org/f3gj6xxw3/gotg2.jpg
http://s21.postimg.org/mb6ujcuaf/gotg3.jpg
http://s21.postimg.org/qa8nfx8bb/gotg4.jpg
http://s21.postimg.org/ojpmefqs7/gotg5.jpg

...man, do I not get where these criticisms are coming from at all.



I find this kind of funny, considering the heavily-filtered, artificially-contrasty style that the TMNT movie has. I'd argue GotG has a better and more appealing colour palette between the two - it looks good, it looks fun, but it also looks "natural", if that makes sense? I find the overall style of BayTurtles pretty obnoxious by comparison.

But that's a matter of personal taste, so... y'know.

Nothing "funny" about it. "Each to his own"? Haha, patronising beyond belief, especially considering the sarcastic tone of your reply suggests that you believe in anything but. But, y'know.

[Bry]

Originally Posted by Bob

Nothing "funny" about it. "Each to his own"? Haha, patronising beyond belief, especially considering the sarcastic tone of your reply suggests that you believe in anything but. But, y'know.

I mean... seriously, no offense intended, dude! I do legitimately find it funny/interesting that we can both look at the same material, you see "generic and boring" and I see the complete opposite. It's just down to subjective taste, and I'm not saying there's anything wrong with that. Just explaining my opinion/perspective and backing it up with visuals.

[The Stryker]

Originally Posted by Warhorse

The soundtrack to this thing is looking to be a must have for music lovers everywhere. I wouldn't be surprised if the soundtrack turns out to be this years Bodyguard.

Please tell me you're joking. You cannot be serious.

[Warhorse]

Originally Posted by Xiewin

WHAT are you talking about?? I was just referring to those topics that were created were just plain unnecessary. What is the point of saying does the devil sponsor this movie or can someone salvage this it because we all know it's going to be terrible??

There are hypocrites on both sides, for people who love this movie and those who hate it. I have never said you have to like it, Where did you get that conclusion from?? What about the fact that you called me a troll and a tmnt studio plant on the GOTG superherohype forum for not liking the 17 minute preview?? Of course people can voice their concerns about this film, but I just hate it when people create those type of topics for NO reason. You don't have to like the designs, the changes, or cast choice, but Jeezz... You literally twisted my words out of proportion here.

Sad thing is, I'm not the only one, nor was I the first. The posters there are right, you going in, already explicit that you hate the MCU films, and drive for 2 hours to see a 17 minute preview to a movie you already had it in your mind that you weren't going to like, what are we supposed to think? Really, if you hate GOTG so much, why do you have Rocket as an avatar? It makes no sense.

Originally Posted by Vicky82 View Post
Dawn of the Planet of the Apes got $73 million this weekend and I heard its an excellent movie (I won't be seeing it as the whole franchise doesn't appeal to me). I think GOTG will do less than that at opening weekend.

What was the biggest opening for an August release period? I think it was one of the Bourne movies, but, August hasn't been known for huge OW. But neither was April until Capt 2 opened up.
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[Xiewin]

Originally Posted by Warhorse

Sad thing is, I'm not the only one, nor was I the first. The posters there are right, you going in, already explicit that you hate the MCU films, and drive for 2 hours to see a 17 minute preview to a movie you already had it in your mind that you weren't going to like, what are we supposed to think? Really, if you hate GOTG so much, why do you have Rocket as an avatar? It makes no sense.

Okay who said I hated GOTG? I have never said that! Where are you getting this information from? I said I disliked the preview, that is all. I never said this movie was going to be terrible, nor did I insulted anyone for liking it themselves. My god, it's not like I watched the whole movie. All I simply said was, "I saw it a few hours ago, ehh I didn't like it.." and some people asked me why and then I explained it to them. That's like saying if you didn't like the look of the new tmnt movie so much then why do you keep talking about it??

you going in, already explicit that you hate the MCU films, and drive for 2 hours to see a 17 minute preview to a movie you already had it in your mind that you weren't going to like.

I didn't know what to expect, that's why I went to see it! I do dislike most Marvel films, but just never know how much you might like something until you at least give it a chance. I have explained this before on the other forum to why I made the decision to see this preview. I said that GOTG looked unique and I wanted to see if Marvel took a different direction for this film. But I didn't see any of that in the 17 minute preview. That is all I said and nothing more. You insulted me first.

why do you have Rocket as an avatar? It makes no sense.

I've said many times that I love Rocket on both this forum and the other one.

[Warhorse]

Originally Posted by Xiewin

Okay who said I hated GOTG? I have never said that! Where are you getting this information from? I said I disliked the preview, that is all. I never said this movie was going to be terrible, nor did I insulted anyone for liking it themselves. My god, it's not like I watched the whole movie. All I simply said was, "I saw it a few hours ago, ehh I didn't like it.." and some people asked me why and then I explained it to them. That's like saying if you didn't like the look of the new tmnt movie so much then why do you keep talking about it??

I'm not going to come in here and drag posts from a completely different forum. But, I haven't said I didn't like the look of the new TMNT movie, I just don't like the look of the TMNT. Big difference. I have hope that the movie itself will be good enough that I can look past the ugliness. Hey, I hated that the Turtles didn't have pupils in the 2k3 toon, and I dislike Sean Astin voicing for Raph in the Nick toon. It took a while but I warmed up to both series to a degree. But really, I had no problems with Megan Fox being in this, I actually like her. I have little problems with the origins being mixed up, Shredder being a "white dude" (which I don't think Fichtner is The Shredder) and all of that other hogwash. But, I do think GOTG looks better and will be a bigger hit, simply because they didn't stray so far from the source material.

I didn't know what to expect, that's why I went to see it! I do dislike most Marvel films, but just never know how much you might like something until you at least give it a chance. I have explained this before on the other forum to why I made the decision to see this preview. I said that GOTG looked unique and I wanted to see if Marvel took a different direction for this film. But I didn't see any of that in the 17 minute preview. That is all I said and nothing more. You insulted me first.

No, you went in an insulted anyone who was looking forward to it. You just can't go into a thread where everybody but you is talking about it excitedly, and rain on their parade without a retort. Even I know not to go onto the Batman site and say TDKR wasn't that great or to try and get a rise out of the Nolan fans. There are just some things you simply do not do on the Superhero Hype. There are places to discuss your discontent, and there are places where you should refrain (or, if you can't say something nice, don't say anything at all) It's probably why I'm not a frequent poster over there, it's too much like a dictatorship.

I've said many times that I love Rocket on both this forum and the other one.

Could have fooled me the way you go on about the movie on here and other places. I just don't understand why you don't have a TMNT 14 avatar if you are so hyped for that movie.

[terrorblade]

Can the mods sticky this thread? It's pretty obvious that this is our official Guardian of the Galaxy thread.

[TigerClaw]

even though there is already a Guardians of the Galaxy thread here
http://forums.thetechnodrome.com/showthread.php?t=38020

[chrisdude]

The thread poses a reasonable subject for discussion. It was just posted about five months too early.

[Warhorse]

Aren't the Ninja Turtles supposed to be mentioned in GOTG?

Originally Posted by chrisdude View Post
The thread poses a reasonable subject for discussion. It was just posted about five months too early.

GOTG and TMNT BO is the hottest duel right now, and will probably be that way until Captain 3 vs Batman/Superman comes out in 2016.

[Xiewin]

Originally Posted by Warhorse

I'm not going to come in here and drag posts from a completely different forum. But, I haven't said I didn't like the look of the new TMNT movie, I just don't like the look of the TMNT. Big difference. I have hope that the movie itself will be good enough that I can look past the ugliness. Hey, I hated that the Turtles didn't have pupils in the 2k3 toon, and I dislike Sean Astin voicing for Raph in the Nick toon. It took a while but I warmed up to both series to a degree. But really, I had no problems with Megan Fox being in this, I actually like her. I have little problems with the origins being mixed up, Shredder being a "white dude" (which I don't think Fichtner is The Shredder) and all of that other hogwash. But, I do think GOTG looks better and will be a bigger hit, simply because they didn't stray so far from the source material.

Look that's fine if you like GOTG better, and I don't have a problem with that. And I understand if you don't like the changes, I never said you had to love them. But the previous posts I made about the "Could a DVD release "salvage" this movie with alterations and changes?" and "Did the devil sponsor this movie"?, I was just saying that there was no point of those kind of threads. It's one thing to state an opinion and it's another thing to bash something just because you necessary don't like it.

No, you went in an insulted anyone who was looking forward to it. You just can't go into a thread where everybody but you is talking about it excitedly, and rain on their parade without a retort. Even I know not to go onto the Batman site and say TDKR wasn't that great or to try and get a rise out of the Nolan fans. There are just some things you simply do not do on the Superhero Hype. There are places to discuss your discontent, and there are places where you should refrain (or, if you can't say something nice, don't say anything at all) It's probably why I'm not a frequent poster over there, it's too much like a dictatorship.

When did I insult anyone that was looking for forward to it? All I said was that I didn't like it, that's it. They then asked me why and I explained it to them. They took it out of hand and saw it as some kind of threat. That's is their fault, not mine. I only go on the superherohype forum for only two reasons: Mostly for GOTG updates, and sometimes to view more discussions on the tmnt movie. I saw that they were talking about the 17 minute preview and I decided to put my thoughts on there. That's all to it. I didn't come there to troll or force anyone to dislike it.

it's too much like a dictatorship.

I can see that, that's why I will refrain from commenting on any of the threads anymore.

Could have fooled me the way you go on about the movie on here and other places. I just don't understand why you don't have a TMNT 14 avatar if you are so hyped for that movie.

Maybe because I don't want to have a tmnt avatar? What am I not allowed to put characters I like as an profile picture? I said I loved Rocket's character, end of story.

[Xiewin]

Originally Posted by TigerClaw

even though there is already a Guardians of the Galaxy thread here
http://forums.thetechnodrome.com/showthread.php?t=38020

I had no idea. Thank god there's an thread already here.

[Bob]

Originally Posted by Bry

http://media0.giphy.com/media/iumQF0Z9ur4Z2/giphy.gif

I mean... seriously, no offense intended, dude! I do legitimately find it funny/interesting that we can both look at the same material, you see "generic and boring" and I see the complete opposite. It's just down to subjective taste, and I'm not saying there's anything wrong with that. Just explaining my opinion/perspective and backing it up with visuals.

Okay, fair enough. I understand. For the record, as I explained in my original post, I'm still looking forward to GOTG and I do, for the most part, love the MCU. I'm just disappointed with the visual look of it. It does give off a Farscape vibe, in a visual sense. That's not a good thing, IMO, for a 170 million budgeted film. Hopefully the finished film will change my mind. I do believe the new TMNT film is more visually appealing. At the moment, at least. I hope they're holding a lot back when it comes to GOTG (and TMNT, too, for that matter).