Has Guardians of the Galaxy already won August

[Bob]

I think GOTG looks visually dull as anything. To a visually-minded person like me that comes as a great disappointment and unwelcome surprise. To me the appeal of a GOTG film was always the potential look of it. I’m still looking forward to it immensely, but visually it looks surprisingly cheap and like something you would see on the Sci-Fi channel (which is strange, as The Wrap just put up an article stating that the budget is 170 million dollars. I believe TMNT’s is about 125-ish). The colour palette looks generic and boring, too many browns, dark blues and blacks. Also, the aliens on show just seem to be people painted blue or some other colour. So, in terms of the look of it, none of the trailers and pictures released thus far have impressed me. They’ve all pretty much left me feeling cold. I hope that the film as a whole is a pleasant surprise. I will still be there come opening weekend. I think TMNT is the more visually striking of the two by a wide margin, TBH.

In terms of the marketing, whereas it has come thick and fast, I don't think they've really got across the tone. Is it a kid's a film, a family films or something in between? Obviously I'm assuming its something in between, but it certainly doesn't look it. TMNT’s marketing has made it quite clear what type of audience the film is aimed for, I think.

[Warhorse]

Originally Posted by Bob

I think GOTG looks visually dull as anything. To a visually-minded person like me that comes as a great disappointment and unwelcome surprise. To me the appeal of a GOTG film was always the potential look of it. I’m still looking forward to it immensely, but visually it looks surprisingly cheap and like something you would see on the Sci-Fi channel (which is strange, as The Wrap just put up an article stating that the budget is 170 million dollars. I believe TMNT’s is about 125-ish). The colour palette looks generic and boring, too many browns, dark blues and blacks. Also, the aliens on show just seem to be people painted blue or some other colour. So, in terms of the look of it, none of the trailers and pictures released thus far have impressed me. They’ve all pretty much left me feeling cold. I hope that the film as a whole is a pleasant surprise. I will still be there come opening weekend. I think TMNT is the more visually striking of the two by a wide margin, TBH.

In terms of the marketing, whereas it has come thick and fast, I don't think they've really got across the tone. Is it a kid's a film, a family films or something in between? Obviously I'm assuming its something in between, but it certainly doesn't look it. TMNT’s marketing has made it quite clear what type of audience the film is aimed for, I think.

What with Peter Quill's malfunctioning middle finger, a nearly naked green chick, and assassin to boot, and a machine gun toting raccoon, it's very clear what kind of audience it's aiming for, and it's not for the little kiddies.

And people are praising the SFX like crazy for this movie. It's one of the very few movies people recommend seeing in 3D, if not just for the shot of them with the stars around them alone.

[Xiewin]

Originally Posted by Bob

I’m still looking forward to it immensely, but visually it looks surprisingly cheap and like something you would see on the Sci-Fi channel (which is strange, as The Wrap just put up an article stating that the budget is 170 million dollars. I believe TMNT’s is about 125-ish). The colour palette looks generic and boring, too many browns, dark blues and blacks. Also, the aliens on show just seem to be people painted blue or some other colour. So, in terms of the look of it, none of the trailers and pictures released thus far have impressed me. They’ve all pretty much left me feeling cold. I hope that the film as a whole is a pleasant surprise. I will still be there come opening weekend. I think TMNT is the more visually striking of the two by a wide margin, TBH.

In terms of the marketing, whereas it has come thick and fast, I don't think they've really got across the tone. Is it a kid's a film, a family films or something in between? Obviously I'm assuming its something in between, but it certainly doesn't look it. TMNT’s marketing has made it quite clear what type of audience the film is aimed for, I think.

Yeah everything seemed so dull

[MajorViolence]

Originally Posted by ranger_scout

This movie is tracking for a $60 million opening.

http://www.thewrap.com/guardians-of-...llion-opening/

However, the trend this summer is that everyone seems to be rushing to see something on opening weekend and the following week, it suffers a huge decline. Only a few films this summer have had strong legs. With TMNT's marketing really starting to kick in I have a good feeling that GOTG will be dethroned by TMNT the following weekend.

You'd be hard-pressed to find anyone more positive about GOTG than myself, and even I don't think it's likely that GOTG will have a better second weekend than TMNT's opening weekend. Now whether TMNT will have as good an opening weekend as GOTG's is a completely different story.

[pennydreadful]

Originally Posted by voltron80

As for mature debate do you mean agree with you?

I'm pretty sure that by "mature debate", Leo656 meant not referring to people who don't love everything about the movie as haters, whiners, fanboys, hypocrites and in general, just sounding way hostile and aggressive. You can make a point without being rude.

Myself, I couldn't care less whether GOTG beats Turtles, or Turtles beats GOTG. *shrugs*

[SwiftNinjaFox]

Originally Posted by MajorViolence

According to the more conspiracy-theory-ish rumors, Sony has been coming around to the idea, or at least is leading Marvel to believe they're considering the idea, hence all the Spidey products on toy store shelves, which help promote the film but require Marvel's involvement to produce. Fox, on the other hand, refuses to play ball, hence there's not been a single Days of Future past toy to be seen.

Well, Oscorp from Amazing Spider-Man was meant to be in the New York cityscape during the climax of Avengers, but the timing didn't pan out to get it finished in time to work it into the scenes. So who knows. There's a LOT of logistics to work out to do a cross-studio film.

Fox may not be playing ball, but Hugh Jackman has been vocal about the idea sounding like fun.

Originally Posted by ranger_scout

This movie is tracking for a $60 million opening.

http://www.thewrap.com/guardians-of-...llion-opening/

However, the trend this summer is that everyone seems to be rushing to see something on opening weekend and the following week, it suffers a huge decline. Only a few films this summer have had strong legs. With TMNT's marketing really starting to kick in I have a good feeling that GOTG will be dethroned by TMNT the following weekend.

I said a while it's possible to see

Guardians releases as the #1 movie
TMNT releases as the #1 movie
Expendables 3 releases as the #1 movie

However, what TMNT has working against it is Guardians will be in its second weekend of worldwide box office. TMNT won't be showing in theaters worldwide when it releases.

I'm not sure how sci-fi generally goes over in overseas markets, though.

[Leo656]

Originally Posted by voltron80

The hypocrisy is thick with the anti-movie crowd. I've been around this forum for a while and I've seen the anti-movie posters talking trash to people who support the movie. I've been far more fair to the anti movie people than the anti-movie people have been with pro movie posters. Remember the term movie plants or certain posters questioning the date someone joined? Of course not that would put a dent in your argument. All I ever said was if Guardians wasn't opening up a week before Turtles many of you guys wouldn't talk about that movie. I never told Boston he should fall over and worship at the altar of the turtles movie and if he doesn't he's a fool.

As for mature debate do you mean agree with you? That's what I'm sensing you're hinting at. Again there are certain posters that don't follow your rules but since they share your opinion of the movie so I guess they don't count right? Fact is internet fans hate change and they rather see a retread then complain why they didn't add anything new.

If you don't want to be challenge I don't know what to tell you.

Generally speaking, yes, agreeing with me is wise and therefore recommended but by no means mandatory. I allow many, many people to have opinions of their own, especially those who amuse me. I generally only intervene when I see one of my loyal subjects being harangued by an interloper. Or if I feel like stirring some sh*t. Depends how many beers deep in the hole we are on any given day.

All jokes aside, my dude, this has less to do with the movie and everything to do with how I get annoyed with people like you - and not even you specifically - so easily tossing off terms like "haters" and "whiners" towards people I know, like, and respect, who are simply trying to have their own opinion. I've said this before. And yet, for over six months now, everyone who has any problem at all with this movie is "Hating" and "Whining" and being "A Baby." I don't wanna hear it from you or anyone else anymore. Some people don't think this movie looks great, and a lot of them have been "Ninja Turtling" for longer than you have, and it's condescending as f*ck to go around painting them with your "Hater Brush". Boston said some stuff he isn't a fan of, you called him a "Hater", and I pointed out that's a pretty sh*tty response to have to someone's honest opinion. Partly because I like the guy, from what little I've spoken with him, but more so, because that whole "Not in love with the movie? Not a TMNT Fan" sh*t is beyond tired.

I think I speak for a lot of us "Haters' when I say: I've given enough money to the franchise handlers over the decades that I can "Hate" on any damn thing I feel like. And so can Boston, Bry, Jester, and anyone else who has a bone or two to pick with this flick. Leave 'em alone. Not you specifically, it's far from just you.

Originally Posted by pennydreadful

I'm pretty sure that by "mature debate", Leo656 meant not referring to people who don't love everything about the movie as haters, whiners, fanboys, hypocrites and in general, just sounding way hostile and aggressive. You can make a point without being rude.

Myself, I couldn't care less whether GOTG beats Turtles, or Turtles beats GOTG. *shrugs*

I don't have a dog in the TMNT/GotG fight, either, as I'm pretty sure I'm not going to see Guardians (entirely no sh*ts to give on that one) and TMNT is 50/50 at best. I just think that as far as being smug, condescending, belligerent, and just a smarmy prick in general, it should almost definitely be illegal to take it even one bit farther than I do. I'm the absolute limit, and I only get away with it because I'm charming as hell. I have these really long, super-effeminate eyelashes that get me out of absolutely everything and anything.

[pennydreadful]

Originally Posted by Leo656

I have these really long, super-effeminate eyelashes that get me out of absolutely everything and anything.

And boy you got a purdy mouth.

[Leo656]

LoL whut

[The Boston Ninja Turtle]

Originally Posted by voltron80

Save your gasp for someone who actually believes your nonsense. This isn't about taste or personal preference this about propping up one movie against the other only because the turtles movie has the nerve to offend your fanboy sensibilities by gasp going in a different direction than past versions.

yup you caught me i lied, i actually don't have a taste in movies or anything, its all grey to me.. i like all movies ever made ever for being movies,everything looks,tastes, and smells the same to me


WOOO NEUTRALITY!

[pennydreadful]

Originally Posted by Leo656

LoL whut

http://whatistheexcel.com/wooobooru/...hing%20wcw.gif

Ignore me, my whacky sense of humor.

[ranger_scout]

Originally Posted by Warhorse

Eh, I wouldn't trust that site. If you want tracking numbers, I would go to either BoxOffice.com, Box Office Mojo or sometime Fandango will put up presales. Right now, BoxOffice.Com are expecting 70 million to 80 million, which would destroy the previous OW record for August.

boxoffice.com has not always delivered accurate results. They predicted that Maleficent would open with $61 million, but there were off by $8.4 million.

http://www.boxoffice.com/featured_st...ast-maleficent

They were also way off for How to Train Your Dragon 2. They predicted an opening of $78 million, but instead that movie opened with $49.4 million.

http://www.boxoffice.com/featured_st...-your-dragon-2

It turns out more people went to see Maleficent instead. It didn't hurt that it was based on one of Disney's beloved fairy tales and had a Disney Princess, Aurora, in it. Or maybe parents read ahead of time that How to Train Your Dragon 2 was more serious and darker than its predecessor, especially since

Spoiler:

Hiccup's father Stoick dies.

[MajorViolence]

Originally Posted by Warhorse

And people are praising the SFX like crazy for this movie. It's one of the very few movies people recommend seeing in 3D, if not just for the shot of them with the stars around them alone.

Can confirm, GOTG's 3D is spectacular. Marvel's movies haven't been the greatest when it comes to 3D, where sometimes it's just barely passable, and sometimes it's downright infuriatingly lazy, but GOTG practically looks like it was filmed in 3D. For once, they really put some effort into it.

[Warhorse]

Originally Posted by ranger_scout

boxoffice.com has not always delivered accurate results. They predicted that Maleficent would open with $61 million, but there were off by $8.4 million.

http://www.boxoffice.com/featured_st...ast-maleficent

They were also way off for How to Train Your Dragon 2. They predicted an opening of $78 million, but instead that movie opened with $49.4 million.

http://www.boxoffice.com/featured_st...-your-dragon-2



It turns out more people went to see Maleficent instead. It didn't hurt that it was based on one of Disney's beloved fairy tales and had a Disney Princess, Aurora, in it. Or maybe parents read ahead of time that How to Train Your Dragon 2 was more serious and darker than its predecessor, especially since

Spoiler:

Hiccup's father Stoick dies.

But they have been accurate enough to warrant their reputation.

[Galactus]

Originally Posted by voltron80

The hypocrisy is thick with the anti-movie crowd. I've been around this forum for a while and I've seen the anti-movie posters talking trash to people who support the movie. I've been far more fair to the anti movie people than the anti-movie people have been with pro movie posters. Remember the term movie plants or certain posters questioning the date someone joined? Of course not that would put a dent in your argument.

What's hypocritical about the "anti-movie" people?

Firstly generalizing in this way is flowed as the reason(s) I dislike the upcoming may be different to another person who also disliked the upcoming movie. So you're bound to get variety in the arguments against.

If anything the movies boosters are easy to group together but in debating this I've heard way contradictory defenses from the "pro" crowd in defending the movies various choices that I'd say are hypocritical.

Also...I kid you not...I've been accused of being a plant for Disney to disparage this movie even though I've been posting here for years.

All I ever said was if Guardians wasn't opening up a week before Turtles many of you guys wouldn't talk about that movie.

Well obviously not but there'd still be a fair amount. You see a movie with a similar appeal comparisons are bound to come up. I can't help but look at how Rocket looks like the comic character come to life and then look at the turtles and think "why can't it be like that for TMNT?". I'd be thinking that regardless of when GOTG was released.

Fact is internet fans hate change and they rather see a retread then complain why they didn't add anything new.

That's not true at all otherwise other versions of the TMNT wouldn't have found an audience.

There's acceptable change and unacceptable change. Obviously there's no manual to say how far you can take it before fans dislike it but again I can't help but think other franchises managing this fairly well.

[Leolead]

I love TMNT i grew up with the 2K3 cartoon it was one of my favorite (if not my favorite) show

Within the*Marvel cinematic universe, every film has been a box-office success, and none have come close to losing money, GotG might be one of the most important movies in the MCU Thanos....the big bad of the MCU, the big bad just about every movie in the MCU has been building up to, GotG shows a key part in what happens in The Avengers 3: Thanos Imperative ( i like calling it that!)

[Bry]

Originally Posted by NinjaPug

Early tracking numbers (3 weeks out) has GOTG opening to $60 million domestically.

I'm really curious to see how this does. I hope it does well simply because it'll open up the possibilities for the Marvel cosmic universe on screen. Marvel is certainly taking some risks with 3 of their next 5 movies (GOTG, Ant-Man, Dr Strange)

Some perspective: a $60 million opening weekend would put GotG on par with the third-highest August opening weekend of all time.

[Warhorse]

Originally Posted by Bry

Some perspective: a $60 million opening weekend would put GotG on par with the third-highest August opening weekend of all time.

60 million might be the floor.

[NinjaPug]

I agree. I think GOTG will end up over $70 million opening weekend.

[UGHShellshocked]

I really can careless about Marvel movies to begin with so GOTG will be a redbox rental for me. Its cool that they are setting up these movies with a big end game in site but its just not for me.