Ot/ modern toon crossover

[CyberCubed]

Originally Posted by Panda_Kahn_fan

I like the series as a whole, but DESPISE a great deal about it. Utrom Shredder, flip-floppy Karai, misuse of the rat king, super hero knockoff overload, Bishop not just being a good fighter but being invincible, and nearly all of Fast Forward.

Why would it bother you that Bishop was near invincible? Seeing how skilled he was made all his fights fantastic to watch. His battle in, "Hun on the Run" is one of the best of the series.

As for Utrom Shredder, I'd say it was a twist that actually worked. Of course I don't want every Shredder to be an alien, but 2k3 Shredder being an Utrom and then finding out there was a real Oroku Saki was great.

Fast Forward also has many great episodes.

[victory_angel]

Originally Posted by CyberCubed

Fast Forward also has many great episodes.

Fast forward suffered from what i call Re-write syndrome, I don't doubt that there were lots good episode. However it had some characters that should have been one shot at best *cough*Triple Threat *cough*. And characters that really had no point in the story *Cough*Constable Biggles*Cough*

It felt more that they were doing too much and bringing people in far too quickly. Instead things should have been broken up so that we aren't overloaded.

For example: Have the first season center around the Turtles arrival in New York City, spend the season with the Turtles exploring the city, and learning about how they influenced the changes in the city. They also become suspicious of Darius Dun and his motives. Have Dun attempting to keep Cody under his control (I.E. convincing Cody the Turtles are a bad influence. Framing the turtles for crimes in the city that they didn't commit.) Season ending with Darius being ousted as CEO of O'Neil Tech.

Season 2: Arrival of Sh'okanabo. Creation of the Dark Turtles. Darius attempting to get revenge on Cody and the Turtles. Dark Turtles serve Darius, end season with DNA is thicker then water.

Season 3: Darius Dun discovers that Donatello was one of the founders of O'Neil Tech. He surmises that Donatello could be the linchpin to O'Neil tech as a firm. If Donatello and the rest of his brothers are eliminated, O'Neil Tech would never come into being and Cody would never be born. Dun eventually gets fed up with the Dark Turtles and attempts to eliminate them along with the Turtle. The Dark Turtles are reformed and become Cody's and the city's sworn protectors as the Turtles return to their own time. Before leaving all memory of the future is blanked from their minds so they don't pollute the time stream.

[kelligrafie]

I think it's such a damn shame we lost the wonderful James Avery. Somehow it doesn't feel right 80's Krang popping up without 80's Shredder, it's like having a missing limb.

But it would never be right to get someone else in to mimic the voice.

[Jephael]

Originally Posted by kelligrafie

I think it's such a damn shame we lost the wonderful James Avery. Somehow it doesn't feel right 80's Krang popping up without 80's Shredder, it's like having a missing limb.

But it would never be right to get someone else in to mimic the voice.

If they found the right person to do the character justice it'd be okay. Besides I kinda get the feeling this cross-over will be meant as a special dedication in Mr. Avery's memory.

[CyberCubed]

Shredder had many different voices in the original toon though, as well as in Turtles Forever, so we're kinda used to OT Shredder not always sounding like James Avery.

[Diorm]

Originally Posted by Powder

Indeed you did!

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Dear god what is that?! The opening in the belly is huge! And thoses glasses!

[Powder]

25 years does a lot to a man! Or, uh, robot.

[Etsyturtle2]

Uuuh... Android...

[shredder orokusaki]

Originally Posted by Diorm

Dear god what is that?! The opening in the belly is huge! And thoses glasses!

As years passed and krang got older he became biiger that what he nees more space in the belly of the robot to fit. As for the glasses again as you konw some people when get older needs to chage glasses to see better. Same goes for the robot! It is a too old robot now. That why it needed better glasses!

[Amaranthus]

Originally Posted by shredder orokusaki

As years passed and krang got older he became biiger that what he nees more space in the belly of the robot to fit. As for the glasses again as you konw some people when get older needs to chage glasses to see better. Same goes for the robot! It is a too old robot now. That why it needed better glasses!

[Leofan26]

Do we have a confirmation air date? I really hope we get actual Leo's interactions this time, 2003 Leo really didn't much last crossover

Leo in training can get a few tips from Leo in this version.

[myconius]

Originally Posted by Leofan26

Do we have a confirmation air date? I really hope we get actual Leo's interactions this time, 2003 Leo really didn't much last crossover

Leo in training can get a few tips from Leo in this version.

i was wondering on the air date myself???

but that's a great point you bring up!
1987 Leo could really learn a lot about welding Katanas from the 2012 Leo!!!!

it'll be Awesome to here the back and forth between Cam Clarke and Seth Green!!!!!

[CyberCubed]

I think the crossover is the 13th-14th episode of Season 4, so it'll take a while to get there especially with rerun breaks.

[Commenter 42]

If this ep is half as good as the season premiere, we're in for something very special. I'm especially looking forward to Pat Fraley's reprisal of Krang, especially in the 2012 universe.

[myconius]

so it'll be a while then?

will definitely be worth the wait! this is probably one of the episodes of the season i'm most excited for!

[SKX31]

Originally Posted by myconius

so it'll be a while then?

will definitely be worth the wait! this is probably one of the episodes of the season i'm most excited for!

Yea, it'll be a while. Again, they showed the meetup scene in its animatic stage - at the time it wasn't fully complete animationwise (and it might still not be finished yet). It's indusry standard: compare with 2K3's "Master Fighter 2105"* and - more appropriately - when MLP:FiM teased their Season 5 finalé. The voice work comes first (as the Season 5 recordings illustrate), then the animation.

*Yes, I know that episode was never finished. But it's still an example of an episode at that stage of production.

[myconius]

Originally Posted by SKX31

Yea, it'll be a while. Again, they showed the meetup scene in its animatic stage - at the time it wasn't fully complete animationwise (and it might still not be finished yet). It's indusry standard: compare with 2K3's "Master Fighter 2105"* and - more appropriately - when MLP:FiM teased their Season 5 finalé. The voice work comes first (as the Season 5 recordings illustrate), then the animation.

*Yes, I know that episode was never finished. But it's still an example of an episode at that stage of production.

well if anything it looks like we'll have another good solid season to look forward to?

as long as they keep the quality up, they can take what ever time they need.

[Nasubionna]

As a kid who grew up on the OT turtles, I am super excited for this! I hope it's a great one.
My main concern is that the OT turtle's 2-D world is actually animated like the original cartoon, not the crappy flash-animation we got in "Wormquake". Such a disappointment that was! While the OT animation back in the day was far from perfect, it was a great deal better than the "Wormquake" animation. This show does great with the Saturday morning cartoons the turtles watch (Space Heroes, Crognard, etc), so I don't see any reason they can't apply that sort of care and attention to the proper style to the OT/Nick crossover.
Fingers crossed!!

[Noxonius]

So, they're going to make the 80's show's 2D characters into 3D models?

[myconius]

Originally Posted by Nasubionna

As a kid who grew up on the OT turtles, I am super excited for this! I hope it's a great one.
My main concern is that the OT turtle's 2-D world is actually animated like the original cartoon, not the crappy flash-animation we got in "Wormquake". Such a disappointment that was! While the OT animation back in the day was far from perfect, it was a great deal better than the "Wormquake" animation. This show does great with the Saturday morning cartoons the turtles watch (Space Heroes, Crognard, etc), so I don't see any reason they can't apply that sort of care and attention to the proper style to the OT/Nick crossover.
Fingers crossed!!

i have to say though as crappy as the 2D animation in "Wormquake" was it still was a LOT of fun!