Neca TMNT SDCC Video Game sets

[TheBlueTurtle1]

Originally Posted by Lil Karai

That'd be my recommendation. Also give a chance for many people to get these in hand, and let the competition drive down the prices on eBay.

Right now everyone is panicking, and paying more than they would once competition of in-hand sets sets in.

That's just my advice.

Also you are not covered after a certain amount of time, so if they don't send them you can't do anything.

[bretttheleofan]

It's a lot longer now something like 90 days

[ScratchTheHotSpot]

Originally Posted by TheBlueTurtle1

Also you are not covered after a certain amount of time, so if they don't send them you can't do anything.

You're covered for 30 days after the latest delivery date. So as long as the date is listed in the pre-sale, (even if it breaks their pre-sale policy) I think you should be fine.

[go_ninja84]

Originally Posted by bretttheleofan

Definitely what is,the seller that I bought it from gave m the offer at 300 and then it disappeared. I wrote him and he said eBay was taking them down. He relisted it so I could get them with my offer.

i snagged a pre-order for the turtles only but i have worked out with the seller to put a deposit on them and pay the rest closer to the ship date

[imevilduckie]

Originally Posted by Discogod

I dunno, there's 2 companies making both Marvel (Hasbro & Diamond) & DC* (Mattel & DC themselves) action figures. Sure, one line's sold at retail and the other's more speciality, but at my LCS they share peg space in their respective sections. There's also Jakks making large-scale figures, and 12" companies making high-end versions, and that's without getting into import figs. There's enough room for everyone.

OK, you could say TMNT's not quite as popular/iconic as the likes of Spidey & Batman, but I think there's room for both mass-market toys, whether aimed at kids or collectors, and higher-end, more niche products like NECA put out. It's just sheer greed by Playmates - they have no intention of producing well-made, decent quality toys representing the comics, movies or games. Even if NECA was limited to selling their versions through comic shops, or online, it'd be better than nothing.





*not to mention the figures by NECA & Diamond based on the live-action movies/TV shows.

Comic shops are not the same as mass-market retail. The numbers alone are night and day. How many Playmates products do you see at your LCS? There certainly is enough room for many types of products to address many different markets, but Playmates is under no obligation to help competitors.

You say that Playmates has "no intention" to produce higher-quality figures, and you are absolutely right. They're not in business to make products that appeal to the collector's markets. They market to the masses, and their job (as is the job of any publicly-traded company) is to make as much money as possible while keeping production costs as low as possible. They're not doing this to spite collectors. They appeal to the market that's going to make the most money for them and their shareholders.

[lilmotto]

Edit: Claimed

[zodach]

Originally Posted by ScratchTheHotSpot

For some reason... not sure why... The eBay listings for these sets have been disappearing rapidly in the past few hours.

Not just "this item has ended early", or whatever.. but completely removed as if they never existed...

Could be because eBay doesn't allow sales of items which aren't guaranteed to be shipped within 30 days of the sale, but who knows? Thought it was interesting.

eBay has been pretty stringent about removing SDCC exclusive listings that are this far out from the convention dates. Their preorder policy is that it must ship within 30 days so anything more than that is a violation of their rules and they've been known to automatically cancel these types of listings.

[ProactiveMan]

It's kind'a dodgy that people list this stuff before they can guarantee that they will even have it to sell.

The two per customer limit is pretty hard-core; I salute them. It's infuriating to miss out on something only to see people boasting about buying ten extras the next day. I'm looking at you He-Man.org.

[go_ninja84]

spoiler alert imevilduckie is a shareholder in Playmates

Playmates is a company that is slowly becoming the enemy, and there are alot of people that agree with me. numerous times they have said stuff and done the opposite and numerous times let fans down.

i understand you have to make money but the way i see it a company has to have some heart in the products they are producing. the fact they have let us down and cockblocking other companies from the market just proves more and more they just care about the almighty $$ and the hell with everything else IMO

according to what i have seen coming down the pike in the next few months and with them being stingy with retail i have lost what little respect i had left for Playmates. nothing looks appealing that they displayed at the toy fair, just garbage. where is Karai? where is Muckman? where are the Classics Shredder and Krang? where is Pigeon Pete? if you dont want to make collectors level figures ok but why do you have to block other companies who can make far superior figures? is it really gonna hurt your profit? kids will still buy them. TRU has a new section called "collector vector" and every time i go there thats the first place i check. why cant Playmates allow collector figures to be stocked there instead of the TMNT aisle.

ill admit i have a fair share of Playmates stuff including the newly released SOTO figures but that was the last i bought from them, everything just looks like garbage after them and i probably wont buy from them anymore. even the Mega Bloks look better then Playmates attempts. my rant is over

[lilmotto]

Originally Posted by ProactiveMan

It's kind'a dodgy that people list this stuff before they can guarantee that they will even have it to sell.

The two per customer limit is pretty hard-core; I salute them. It's infuriating to miss out on something only to see people boasting about buying ten extras the next day. I'm looking at you He-Man.org.

Since you can preorder these it is pretty safe for people to say they are getting them if they did indeed preorder them.

[Candy Kappa]

Originally Posted by lilmotto

Since you can preorder these it is pretty safe for people to say they are getting them if they did indeed preorder them.

Preorders are for US residents only, so people outside of USA that are attending SDCC can't preorder. And you have to select a pick-up time & date, if you're late due to crowds or long queues, you might lose out on your preorder.

[lilmotto]

Originally Posted by Candy Kappa

Preorders are for US residents only, so people outside of USA that are attending SDCC can't preorder. And you have to select a pick-up time & date, if you're late due to crowds or long queues, you might lose out on your preorder.

They are rough times though. I assume it isn't going to be that big of a deal. NECA would already have your money so holding it a bit longer would likely not be a big issue. Also couldn't international people just use a domestic persons address or does it have to match CC information?

[ProactiveMan]

You'd probably have to use a US credit card.

[TheBlueTurtle1]

I don't feel comfortable ordering a set now. I am going to wait to people Actually have them, and yes Ill have to pay more than I think I should, but I want them.

[AquaParade]

So I'm sure I'm not the first or last to ask, but is there anyone here who would be willing to pick up an extra set to sell to me for a reasonable price?

Please pm me if you are already planning on going and could pick one up for me. I live in Northern California and would totally appreciate it. Hope to hear from someone, thanks.

[psychturtle]

There's a guy on eBay that has fulfilled SDCC preorders for last 6 years. I'm assuming he's a safe bet since he already preorders them. I'd be skeptical of those with low eBay feedback. Wait to get these. Can't decide if I open them or keep moc.

[imevilduckie]

Originally Posted by go_ninja84

spoiler alert imevilduckie is a shareholder in Playmates

Playmates is a company that is slowly becoming the enemy, and there are alot of people that agree with me. numerous times they have said stuff and done the opposite and numerous times let fans down.

i understand you have to make money but the way i see it a company has to have some heart in the products they are producing. the fact they have let us down and cockblocking other companies from the market just proves more and more they just care about the almighty $$ and the hell with everything else IMO

according to what i have seen coming down the pike in the next few months and with them being stingy with retail i have lost what little respect i had left for Playmates. nothing looks appealing that they displayed at the toy fair, just garbage. where is Karai? where is Muckman? where are the Classics Shredder and Krang? where is Pigeon Pete? if you dont want to make collectors level figures ok but why do you have to block other companies who can make far superior figures? is it really gonna hurt your profit? kids will still buy them. TRU has a new section called "collector vector" and every time i go there thats the first place i check. why cant Playmates allow collector figures to be stocked there instead of the TMNT aisle.

ill admit i have a fair share of Playmates stuff including the newly released SOTO figures but that was the last i bought from them, everything just looks like garbage after them and i probably wont buy from them anymore. even the Mega Bloks look better then Playmates attempts. my rant is over

Haha!

While it is a bummer that NECA is not able to stock some products in retail stores, Playmates clearly isn't blocking anyone from producing better quality figures -- they're just limiting where they can be sold. If you go to a restaurant that has Coke products, you can go somewhere else and get a Pepsi if that's what you want. It's the exact same thing.

SDCC is a different animal and I know that doesn't help people outside of the US, but NECA has already said that they signed exclusivity agreements with SDCC, and they did that because it was the only way to release these figures.

As for why Playmates doesn't allow collector's grade figures in stores? I've already stated multiple times the reasons why, but if you want to boil it down to one, it's that there's nothing in it for them to do so.

Look at their latest annual report:

Gross profit ratio on toy sales was 61.6% (2014: 61.9%). The slight decrease in gross profit ratio was attributable to higher level of development and tooling expenses related to new product introductions, partially offset by a higher percentage of overall sales generated in the US market.

Driven by the popular TV show, as well as new product introductions, Playmates’ TMNT toys continued to perform well at retail in the US, despite strong competitions from a number of major action adventure movies.
According to NPD and trade reports, TMNT continued to rank among the top selling boy’s action toy brands in the US and key international markets during 2015. Retail sell-through ratio of our Turtles toys in the US at the end of the year was close to 90%.

In 2016, we expect strong competitions, uncertainties in the global economy and challenging conditions in our international markets to persist. On the other hand, the performance of our TMNT business should benefit from continued TMNT TV entertainment from Nickelodeon as well as the TMNT movie sequel from Paramount.

(Available here: http://ir.playmatestoys.com/eng/reports.php)

Everything about Playmates' profits is tied up in TMNT. They're making a pretty penny on US sales, and for as long as that's their bread and butter, they'll do everything they can to protect it. I'm not saying it's right, just that it's smart business.

[go_ninja84]

Originally Posted by imevilduckie

Haha!

While it is a bummer that NECA is not able to stock some products in retail stores, Playmates clearly isn't blocking anyone from producing better quality figures -- they're just limiting where they can be sold. If you go to a restaurant that has Coke products, you can go somewhere else and get a Pepsi if that's what you want. It's the exact same thing.

SDCC is a different animal and I know that doesn't help people outside of the US, but NECA has already said that they signed exclusivity agreements with SDCC, and they did that because it was the only way to release these figures

As for why Playmates doesn't allow collector's grade figures in stores? I've already stated multiple times the reasons why, but if you want to boil it down to one, it's that there's nothing in it for them to do so.

i still dont think it will hurt their sales to allow collector grade figures in stores. like i said the "collector vector" area is a perfect place for them and away from the TMNT aisle keeping them separate wont hurt anything and they can still sell to kids and allow the collectors to buy stuff locally instead of farting turtles, thats right FARTING TURTLES. its like the guy sitting in the back corner of the restaurant with his bottle of Pepsi in a paper bag

[imevilduckie]

Originally Posted by go_ninja84

i still dont think it will hurt their sales to allow collector grade figures in stores.

You may not, but theoretically, if you were the head of a toy company and its profits and your livelihood (as well as that of your family and dozens of employees and their families) depended on it, would you risk it? I doubt it.

[T-U-R-T-L-E POWA!]

Originally Posted by psychturtle

There's a guy on eBay that has fulfilled SDCC preorders for last 6 years. I'm assuming he's a safe bet since he already preorders them. I'd be skeptical of those with low eBay feedback. Wait to get these. Can't decide if I open them or keep moc.

I'm an MIB guy myself but dang I would love to actually get my hands on these. I couldn't open them though. They just look so dang sweet in that box and I think it would display awesomely.